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00:00We all got to believe that, but we all know Muhammad Ali is the greatest of all of them.
00:19This has truly been a...
00:21This has truly been a...
00:22This is like a...
00:23I would really have to give this to my wife.
00:26I would really, really...
00:29I would really excuse Muhammad Ali for the mistakes of all of fate.
00:32And that's just...
00:34That's really overwhelming.
00:35That's something I don't even think I'm worthy of.
00:39Well, I'm going to explain to you why I'm not.
00:42Listen, um...
00:45I've been fighting since I've been little.
00:46I've been doing this boxing stuff since I was 12 years old.
00:49But the reason I got involved with boxing
00:51even had a small inclination that I would become a fighter
00:54because I've been a...
00:56I'm a real bad kid.
00:57I'm from Brownville, Brooklyn.
01:0113% of us...
01:02Maybe 3% of us go to college in Brownville.
01:05But this little...
01:07I was in sports because of my potential.
01:09Because I'm from Brownville.
01:10Of course, if I'm from Brownville,
01:11I'm going to rob or kill you or steal from you or stuff.
01:15And, um...
01:16So I'm going to do that intentional.
01:18And so...
01:19There were kind kids one particular day
01:21and they let us watch a movie with the greatest of...
01:24I'm told this is 1978.
01:27I'm incarcerated in 1978.
01:29Oh, it's in 1978.
01:31I'm there.
01:32And we're supposed to watch the movie with the greatest.
01:34The movie with the greatest.
01:35Start crying with inspiration.
01:36And then, later on,
01:37Muhammad Ali comes in the performatory.
01:40I said,
01:41Whoa, man!
01:42This is...
01:43What is...
01:44I can't believe this.
01:45The last time I was told I'm going to come and fight him,
01:47I think Leon speaks,
01:49and I'm wearing pink pockets.
01:50I'm like,
01:51Watch him.
01:52He's fighting.
01:53I'm like,
01:54Well, I can do it.
01:55There's...
01:56I'll make it short.
01:58So, um...
01:59Muhammad Ali comes in.
02:00And at that moment,
02:01I said,
02:02I want to be the highest guy.
02:03I said,
02:04I want to be the highest guy.
02:05I said,
02:06I want to be the highest security guard.
02:07The kids just go to that.
02:08When Ali came in,
02:09there was like,
02:10women!
02:11Oh!
02:12Oh!
02:13Oh!
02:14Oh!
02:15I said,
02:16Muhammad,
02:17how come these guys do that to me?
02:18And, um...
02:19Eventually,
02:20I'm forced to make my name.
02:21Because tomorrow I start fighting.
02:22And so because tomorrow...
02:23He had the same birthday,
02:24Muhammad Ali,
02:25January 17th.
02:26So,
02:27every,
02:28every, um...
02:29January 17th,
02:30Muhammad Ali
02:31Cus and Muhammad Ali, they're good friends, so they call each other birthday stuff.
02:36And this one particular time, it was Cus.
02:43I was talking on the phone, this is right after Muhammad Ali.
02:46October 2nd, 1980, let's forget that date.
02:49Muhammad Ali fights in Abu Dhabi.
02:51We watch the fight on Albany.
02:53We go watch the page about the cave pit business.
02:56We watch the fight.
02:58Ali gets clasped.
03:01I get in the car.
03:02We live 30 miles south of Albany.
03:04There's not a word in the car for 30 minutes.
03:08So the next day, Gene Currie, who works with Muhammad Ali, he calls Cus in the morning.
03:14And Cus is on the phone with Muhammad Ali.
03:16He's pruned downstairs.
03:17And I hear Cus say, how did you let that bum, don't you let that bum beat on you.
03:21Why you let him beat on you, man?
03:22He's a bum.
03:23You let him beat on you.
03:24He's a bum.
03:25He said, listen, I have this black kid in the community.
03:28He's 14 years old.
03:29We have a child in the world.
03:30Talk to him.
03:31And so I talk to Muhammad Ali, and I'm crying.
03:34I'm crying.
03:35I'm crying.
03:36I'm 15.
03:37I'm crying right now.
03:39And he told me that I took drugs and I got weak.
03:45And then I said, I'm a schmuck, because I said, I don't say schmuck like the rest of the Jewish people.
03:52I say schmuck.
03:53Because I'm a schmuck.
03:54I'm a half a schmuck.
03:55All right?
03:56So that's why I say schmuck.
03:57So I said, you're half a schmuck.
03:58So I get on the phone, and he said, I took drugs.
04:01I got weak.
04:02And I'm going to come back and fight.
04:04And I'm going to come back and beat on him.
04:05And then I'm crying.
04:06And I'm schmucked.
04:07And I said, when I get big, I'm going to get him for you.
04:11And I felt this poor kid is delusional.
04:14But no, I'm not.
04:16I remember that.
04:17I thought that was January 22, 1988.
04:20And he came into the rink with me.
04:22He came to me and he said, kick his ass for me.
04:25I said, you got that.
04:26And there are many stories about Muhammad Ali.
04:32You know, we don't do it that much now, because it's not really politically correct.
04:38But like, the Ku Klux Klan, they talk about fighting like comic book heroes.
04:45And, oh, man.
04:49I'm going to give you one of my custom models.
04:56Superhero stories about Muhammad Ali.
04:58And then I'm going to leave.
05:02Custom model.
05:03And listen.
05:04This is what custom model at the table means.
05:10Custom model goes like this.
05:12It goes like this.
05:14I'm talking up here.
05:15Please respect me, sir.
05:16Please respect me while I'm talking up here.
05:19Because you're going to know I'm going to be really ugly.
05:21And that's why.
05:22Oye, mi gente.
05:23Cállate, por favor.
05:25Please.
05:26OK?
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