"What Political Path Should the Founder Take? Are Negotiations Necessary? Senior Analysts' Advice

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00:00Mr. Rana, please tell me, so that Mr. Kazmi and Mr. Saad can agree on this,

00:04that you are saying that we should adopt a political path.

00:06What exactly? What?

00:08What will happen? Mr. Khan wants us to do this.

00:10This will be a political path. What will that be?

00:14Look, in the 2018 elections,

00:17the polling booths were put up.

00:20The establishment put them up, and the result changed.

00:22This time, it changed later.

00:24Didn't Mr. Zardari and Mr. Shabaz Sharif

00:26stand up and say that we should come and do economic work?

00:29They also had an objection.

00:30They were not doing politics against Pakistan and its institutions.

00:33You have done it on 9th May.

00:35I am saying this for the third time in your program today.

00:36You will clear the doubts and doubts yourself.

00:39No one else will come and do it.

00:40So, trust your team.

00:42Trust your party.

00:45Mr. Zardari and Mr. Nawaz Sharif had made a PDM

00:47by trusting Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman.

00:49And then, they achieved their political goals with it.

00:52Where is Mr. Khan standing?

00:54He is changing the Prime Minister every day.

00:56The second Prime Minister is saying,

00:57Mr. Khan has told me not to do it.

01:00So, tell your people that when your wife is told

01:03that she has come out on the field and she has come out right,

01:05then why is Hamad Azhar hiding?

01:07Okay. Mr. Kazmi, you tell me,

01:10don't you think it is not right that,

01:12after all, there is a story of the 23rd election.

01:16After the 18th election,

01:17two votes would have been less or ten votes would have been less,

01:19but the votes would have been less.

01:21If you agree, you may have a different opinion.

01:23Or at least, it is a coincidence that

01:25the Noon League was convinced that they had been treated unfairly.

01:28This was their stance.

01:29Even then, despite being an opposition leader,

01:32despite going to jail,

01:33they still wanted to protest.

01:34That is to say, they had kept one way open.

01:37Shouldn't Mr. Khan also keep one such way open here?

01:41Because ultimately, your community is the same political community.

01:44You don't want to be an army chief,

01:46you don't want to be a Chief Justice,

01:47you want to be a Prime Minister.

01:48So, your community is the same.

01:50Even if you are the Prime Minister here,

01:51you don't even sit for the corona test.

01:53Even if you are the Prime Minister,

01:54you don't shake hands with the opposition leader

01:55and you don't shake hands with the thieves.

01:56If there is not even this much co-existence,

01:59how will it work?

02:02Look, what you said in the beginning

02:04that there was noise in the 2018 election

02:05and there was noise in the 2024 election as well.

02:07But what is the problem?

02:09The problem is that

02:10at the moment, a similar solution is being presented

02:14that you sit with this government

02:15and talk to this government.

02:17It is similar to how

02:18Chahat Fateh Ali Khan has opened an academy

02:20to teach people music.

02:22So, if you want to take democracy from them,

02:24the 17 seats that the government has created at the moment,

02:28your parliament is not complete.

02:30Was the parliament incomplete after 2018?

02:33Were specific seats stopped in it?

02:36Was the election of the Senate stopped

02:40from the KP or Sindh?

02:42Was there a situation in it that is still the same?

02:46At that time, they were trying to bring Pika,

02:48but the Moses court blew it up.

02:50Look, the situation is completely different at the moment.

02:53The real issue is that we have to believe

02:56that our voice should be absolutely clear

02:58that whoever is going against the law and the constitution,

03:01he is doing injustice to this country.

03:03Until we don't believe this,

03:04the victim may be someone else at the moment,

03:07it may be someone else in the past,

03:08but this thing should be clear

03:10that whatever politics will be in the country,

03:12it will be within the law and the constitution.

03:14If you say that you have won the election,

03:17or when you win, you have no issue,

03:21then this issue will continue.

03:24So I don't see this issue being solved

03:26because whatever politics is happening at the moment,

03:30whatever debate is happening,

03:33it is not happening within the law and the constitution,

03:35it is happening outside of it.

03:36Until this matter continues,

03:38we will remain in this position.

03:39We will have to agree on a few things.

03:42You can tell many examples of the Noon League,

03:45you can tell Mr. Zardari,

03:46and then Mr. Khan, who is being watched right now,

03:48that this is a fact,

03:49even if we leave the allegations,

03:51as Mr. Khan said,

03:53that it was not my issue with Faizi,

03:56but he said that Faiz Ameen did it,

03:58so I did it, he is fine.

03:59Or we had to call MKM,

04:02we had to get it done through MKM,

04:04that is, we had to get it done through the army,

04:06that brother, let us vote.

04:07And we know all this.

04:09So then the politicians will have to realize first

04:11that brother, you are the lion,

04:12because you people bring the votes,

04:14you don't look elsewhere,

04:15then please,

04:16because the real lion should really be the people.

04:18But at that time,

04:19when the politicians,

04:20please understand yourself as a lion,

04:22do you agree, Mr. Kazmi?

04:24Yes, of course,

04:25the role of the politicians is very important,

04:27but even then, Mr. Badami,

04:28what was the issue?

04:29The issue was the same,

04:30the complaint was that

04:31the law and the law are not being followed.

04:33What is the issue even now?

04:35The issue is the same,

04:35that the law and the law are not being followed,

04:38so the main problem is that

04:40you are standing where you are.

04:41And in this,

04:42where the role of the politicians is,

04:44as a nation,

04:45it is the role of all of us.

04:47Look, we normalize things,

04:48we normalize things.

04:50This is what happens here.

04:51In which country in the world

04:53does Dhaneshwar TV say

04:54that he should get the most votes?

04:56But there is no acceptance of this.

04:58Don't we oppress

04:59when we present acceptance-like philosophies?

05:02Whatever is wrong is right,

05:04Imran Khan should do it,

05:05Mr. Mian should do it,

05:06or someone else should do it,

05:06at least we should tell that.

05:08Until we are not clear in our minds,

05:11we say that this is ground reality.

05:13Is this ground reality?

05:15Is it right or wrong?

05:16You tell us this.

05:17If you say something wrong is wrong,

05:18if you say right is right,

05:19no matter who it is,

05:20then only the problem will be solved.

05:21Otherwise, this debate will continue like this.

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