Why did the IMF delegation meet with the Chief Justice? ARY News correspondent Shoaib Nizami explain

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00:00The way I was looking at it, Mr. Iblamsen, his MD, Ms. Kristalina, she has also praised

00:07it.

00:08The Prime Minister himself has also expressed that incident.

00:11Along with that, it is obvious that IMF is in the 23rd program, they have also had various

00:16meetings in the past.

00:17So, there is so much debate on meetings, on the media, as Mr. Arana Sinalo is saying.

00:24Do you think there is a storm in the tea cup?

00:28Is there no such kind of meet in this story that is being tried to find in it?

00:34Mr. Chaudhary.

00:35No, if the head of the IMF is praising that you have acted on our request, then what

00:44do you mean by that?

00:46Don't bring it under discussion.

00:48Let it be like that.

00:50But this visit of the Supreme Court, of this delegation, and the mention of good governance

00:57corruption and these things in it, in fact, the name of its mission is such.

01:03So, if you ignore it, it means that the loot that you have created or the darkness that

01:10has been created in Pakistan, you should now be worried that if you cannot bring good

01:17governance, then today or tomorrow they will hit you on the face.

01:22The gamblers give you money.

01:25But today they have praised, so one must acknowledge that the IMF chief has appreciated

01:33Pakistani effort to fulfill the requirements for getting further tranches of loans from

01:42IMF.

01:43So, that is understood.

01:45But if you want to keep corruption and looting at bay, then I am sorry, this will not work.

01:53Okay, Shoaib, tell me that, obviously, they will prepare a comprehensive report on this

02:00because they are meeting with various institutions.

02:03So, in your opinion, you have been looking at the finance ministry for a long time.

02:08This time, the benchmark that will be set, as you have said, its purpose is that a new

02:13benchmark will be set, which we will have to fulfill.

02:16As a Pakistani, I think we need reform.

02:19If the IMF tells us something good, then there is no harm in acting on it.

02:23So, why are we hearing some noise about it for no reason?

02:30The thing is that in 2018, the IMF introduced the GCDA.

02:37This is happening in Pakistan right now.

02:39Yesterday, I was reading its financial report, and in that financial report, they have removed

02:43the skin of the hair.

02:44The situation in Pakistan at the moment, if they had compiled this report, then there is

02:49a possibility that it will be documented and historical.

02:55Because they are going to do it in 20 countries.

02:57We have published four such reports so far.

03:00Of Sri Lanka, Mauritania, Zambia and Mali.

03:04The reports that are coming out, I have seen that they have removed the skin of the hair

03:10and kept it in a line.

03:11So, if such reports come out about Pakistan, and if such things come out in these circumstances,

03:18then in the coming times, it will also affect the other donors of Pakistan.

03:23The issues of governance are not only for Pakistan, but also for the ADB and the World Bank.

03:29The issues of transparency will also go up to there.

03:31So, the government of Pakistan is trying to provide the information they are asking for

03:39so that there is no doubt in their minds.

03:43Mr. Chaudhary wants to ask a question.

03:46Yes, Mr. Chaudhary.

03:48Mr. Nizami, is the Supreme Court visit a routine matter of the IMF?

03:54How many visits have been made to the Supreme Court before?

03:57And now, the ones of the Imam Nishti.

04:03Mr. Chaudhary, because this security has never been asked from us by the IMF.

04:09The diagnostic assessment of corruption and governance came in 2018.

04:16This is the first time it is coming to Pakistan like this.

04:18And yesterday, Hassan Ayub was also discussing in the programme

04:22that the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court is not only the CJP,

04:26but he also has other responsibilities because of which he had to meet.

04:30And the Finance Minister has told him to go and meet the CJP himself.

04:34And he will handle all the issues himself.

04:36Let's stay with us. I would like to ask Hassan about this further.

04:42Obviously, not less than his own MD is saying that

04:46all the commitments that Pakistan has made with us,

04:48I am looking at it from a different angle.

04:50There is a need for reforms in Pakistan.

04:52If there is a question, there is a need for reforms.

04:54There is a need for radical changes in Pakistan.

05:00There is a need to solve the problems in justice in Pakistan.

05:05There is a need for protection of property rights.

05:08There is a concern about property rights.

05:10The reason for the meeting is that the head of NJPMC,

05:13which is the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Pakistan,

05:15who is the Zilli Committee of the Law and Justice Commission.

05:19And the chairman of the Law and Justice Commission is also the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Pakistan.

05:23So when he becomes the Chief Justice and gets the constitutional post,

05:26then automatically the head of these Zilli institutions is also the Chief Justice.

05:30There are chairmen, there are presidents, there are heads.

05:33That is, if you look at the Supreme Judicial Council,

05:35its head is also the Chief Justice.

05:36The head of the Judicial Commission is also the Chief Justice.

05:38Similarly, the head of NJPMC, National Judicial Policymaking, is also the Chief Justice.

05:46Now he has to tell what policymaking work is being done, what reforms are being done.

05:50He has explained this little thing.

05:52And went ahead.

05:53There are issues of property, there are litigations,

05:55then there are some litigations of the FBI,

05:57where whatever is there, that is, the structural changes that are coming,

06:01he talked about accountability.

06:03So he did not meet as the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Pakistan.

06:07This meeting, you understand this a little technically.

06:10Now, whatever color you want to give it,

06:13but such a meeting has never happened in the past,

06:15but as Shoaib is telling in other 20 countries,

06:18this thing is being replicated there too.

06:21This thing will happen there too.

06:22So he has picked 20 countries.

06:24Pakistan also falls on that, unfortunately.

06:26Now the reforms that should be in Pakistan,

06:28the discipline of the IMF is very strict,

06:30there is belt tightening,

06:31but for whose betterment?

06:33For our own betterment.

06:34And what the Chief Justice of the IMF said, that is positive.

06:38One more thing is very important.

06:40We as Pakistanis,

06:43have to see that if from the IMF,

06:45the loan that Pakistan is getting,

06:48other donors are also clubbed from it.

06:51So if we support this or do something against it,

06:54then it will not be democratic.

06:56The guidance given by Bani Chairman Tariq-e-Ansar,

06:59which is a dossier of 400 pages,

07:02is basically an effort to defame Pakistan internationally.

07:07In this regard, the letters that are being written,

07:09sometimes to the Chief Justice,

07:11sometimes to the Chief Army Staff,

07:14the purpose of these letters is that

07:16the propaganda that they have to do,

07:18the campaign against Pakistan,

07:20in that they are basically giving fuel to it.

07:23This is the objective.

07:24First they had to write a letter to the IMF,

07:26that how to give to Pakistan,

07:27that Pakistan should default like Sri Lanka.

07:29Alhamdulillah, Pakistan has become stable today.

07:30The IMF is also praising it.

07:31That thing is not being digested by them.

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