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ছোট বাড়ির বদলে শিশ মহল, রাজনীতিতে এসেই লোভ বেড়েছিল, কেজরিওয়ালের পতনের কারণ বললেন আন্না হাজারে
Oneindia Bengali
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2/9/2025
ছোট বাড়ির বদলে শিশ মহল, রাজনীতিতে এসেই লোভ বেড়েছিল, কেজরিওয়ালের পতনের কারণ বললেন আন্না হাজারে
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00:00
The mistake was that after coming to power, they started giving liquor licences and liquor shops.
00:09
Liquor is a way to destroy the society.
00:14
That's why in our village, there was a liquor bar.
00:18
Today, it's been 22 years.
00:21
22 years.
00:23
In any shop, there is no cigarette, cigarette, khaini for sale.
00:28
The people who came to politics,
00:31
we used to think about the society from the beginning,
00:34
but when they came to politics,
00:36
they started thinking about money, liquor, shops.
00:41
That's wrong.
00:42
Even before, they used to say,
00:44
I will not change the small room that I live in.
00:49
I will live in my room all my life.
00:52
And later, I heard,
00:56
This is a mistake.
00:58
I am 90 years old.
01:00
According to that, I could have built any school.
01:05
Even now, I have a gold bed and a plate to eat.
01:09
Nothing else.
01:11
They didn't understand this.
01:13
Where is the happiness?
01:15
Happiness is not outside.
01:19
Happiness is inside.
01:21
The more you work for the society,
01:24
the more you get happiness from within.
01:27
What I have told you,
01:29
the mistake that I made was this.
01:33
After coming to power,
01:37
I started giving licenses for liquor.
01:42
I started giving liquor contracts.
01:46
There is a child in the first class.
01:52
If you ask him about liquor, he will say bad things.
01:57
And now, you are giving liquor contracts.
02:03
You are giving licenses to drink liquor.
02:07
Liquor is a way to destroy the society.
02:13
That's why, in our village,
02:17
there was a liquor bar.
02:20
Today, it's been 22 years.
02:24
For 22 years,
02:26
in any shop,
02:28
cigarettes, cigarettes,
02:30
are not for sale.
02:32
This is our business.
02:34
It is necessary for the society and the country.
02:38
So, Arvind Kejriwal's liquor policy was his biggest mistake?
02:42
Arvind Kejriwal's liquor policy was his biggest mistake?
02:47
Arvind Kejriwal's biggest mistake was this?
02:50
Yes.
02:53
Earlier, he was with us.
02:56
He didn't like liquor.
02:59
He came to power.
03:01
Liquor contracts,
03:03
liquor licenses.
03:05
Licenses are not the same.
03:09
After coming to power,
03:11
many people took out licenses.
03:13
And many shops were opened.
03:16
So, what's the use of having so much liquor?
03:19
It doesn't happen at one place.
03:22
It starts at many places.
03:25
That's why I don't like it.
03:28
This is a mistake.
03:30
Annaji, the people's movement that you started,
03:34
Arvind Kejriwal was with you.
03:36
There were many other leaders.
03:38
There were many other social activists
03:40
in your people's movement in 2012-2013.
03:43
After that, they came into politics.
03:46
You think that politics...
03:48
Whenever there was talk that politics is mud,
03:51
that we shouldn't go into politics,
03:53
now they have come back.
03:55
They are on the back foot.
03:57
So, what would you say to the youth
03:59
who are associated with that party?
04:02
What would you say to the youth
04:04
who are associated with politics
04:06
in the people's movement in 2012-2013?
04:08
I don't believe that politics is bad now.
04:14
Many people are good in politics.
04:20
And in politics,
04:22
many people think about society and the country.
04:26
If they think about the country,
04:28
what's wrong with that?
04:30
The people who come into politics,
04:36
we used to think about the society from the beginning.
04:39
But they came into politics
04:41
and started thinking about money, liquor, shops.
04:46
That's wrong.
04:48
We should maintain our old policy
04:53
that we won't say bad things about liquor.
05:00
We shouldn't run after money.
05:03
After your movement,
05:05
they made a party for common people.
05:08
What do you think about that?
05:13
They said that their party is for common people.
05:18
After your movement,
05:20
they made a party for common people.
05:22
After that, they have a house in Delhi,
05:24
which is called Shish Mahal,
05:26
which is in a lot of talk.
05:28
They are accused of living a luxurious life.
05:31
What would you say about that?
05:35
This is a mistake.
05:39
Earlier, they used to say,
05:42
I won't change my room.
05:47
I will live in my room all my life.
05:51
And later,
05:53
I heard that they made Shish Mahal.
05:57
This is a mistake.
06:01
It's been 90 years.
06:04
According to that,
06:06
I could have made any Shish Mahal.
06:10
Even now, I have a gold bed,
06:12
and a plate to eat.
06:14
Nothing else.
06:16
But I experience it in my life.
06:19
There is so much happiness in life.
06:23
Even a millionaire doesn't get it.
06:27
They don't understand this.
06:29
Where is the happiness?
06:31
Happiness is not from outside.
06:34
Happiness is from within.
06:37
The more you work for the society,
06:40
the more happiness you get from within.
06:43
The satisfaction on the other person's face,
06:46
the satisfaction on the other person's face,
06:49
that is our happiness.
06:51
The satisfaction on the faces of people
06:54
who are sad, who are suffering,
06:57
that is our happiness.
06:59
They don't understand this.
07:02
This is the reason for the mistake.
07:05
If they had understood this,
07:08
they would never have thought,
07:11
I will not make Shish Mahal.
07:15
I will live in my broken room.
07:21
And that happiness
07:23
that came from before,
07:25
it continues.
07:27
There is a difference in that.
07:29
Anna, I had a question.
07:31
When your movement started,
07:33
when you were in Ramleela Maidan,
07:35
in Mumbai,
07:37
after that, many youth
07:39
joined the party along with the movement.
07:42
They joined the Aam Aadmi Party.
07:45
They are still in the party.
07:47
What would you say to those youth?
07:49
Should they leave the political party
07:51
or should they move forward?
07:54
In the party, I have said before,
07:57
don't look at the fault.
08:01
All the parties are at fault.
08:06
They are not right.
08:08
Don't say that.
08:10
Many people think of the society and the country
08:12
and leave the party.
08:14
Let them do it.
08:16
If the society and the country do it for the betterment,
08:18
then do it.
08:20
If they do it for the betterment of the society and the country,
08:23
and for their own benefit,
08:25
and harm the country,
08:28
that is wrong.
08:30
If they harm the society,
08:32
that is wrong.
08:36
For the betterment of the society,
08:38
for the betterment of the country,
08:40
this is our aim.
08:42
I am not saying anything bad
08:45
or good about anyone.
08:48
I have dedicated my entire life to this.
08:51
My entire life.
08:53
When I was 17 years old,
08:56
I saw that
08:58
by getting married,
09:00
I would not be able to serve the society.
09:03
So, at the age of 17,
09:06
I decided not to get married.
09:09
It has been 90 years now.
09:12
The same people,
09:14
the same people,
09:16
it has been 90 years,
09:18
the same people.
09:20
Even today, at the age of 90,
09:22
I feel so happy.
09:24
I feel so happy.
09:26
This did not occur to them.
09:29
They made a mistake.
09:32
My last question, Anna.
09:34
He became a politician
09:36
because of your movement.
09:38
He became a politician because of your movement.
09:41
Do you think that
09:43
Arvind Kejriwal used this movement
09:46
to make his own politics?
09:48
No, I cannot say that.
09:50
When I did not see him,
09:52
before he left for the party,
09:55
I went away from him.
09:57
I never went to him again.
10:00
Then what he did,
10:02
how he did it,
10:04
I do not know.
10:06
The day
10:08
he left us,
10:11
I got separated from him.
10:14
Since he left the party,
10:16
I have been with him.
10:19
I never went to him again.
10:22
The party and the party,
10:24
today in our country,
10:26
many parties and parties
10:28
do a very good job.
10:30
We cannot deny this.
10:33
But, the big benefits
10:36
are the party and the party.
10:39
Money and power,
10:41
money and power,
10:43
they run behind this.
10:45
Money and power,
10:47
money and power.
10:49
What will you do for money?
10:52
Think about the society,
10:54
not the country.
10:56
Is the BJP, the BJP,
10:58
the BJP, the BJP,
11:00
the BJP, the BJP,
11:02
the BJP, the BJP,
11:04
the BJP, the BJP,
11:06
the BJP, the BJP,
11:08
whether good or bad,
11:10
the society decides.
11:12
If they do good for the society,
11:14
then you say they do good work.
11:19
I do not look at them
11:21
as a party or a party.
11:23
I go away from them.
11:26
I ask one last question, Anna.
11:28
I am sorry, I am taking a lot of time.
11:30
One last question is that
11:32
the common man is in the party,
11:35
or Kizhriwal is there,
11:37
he must be in such a situation
11:39
that he will have to lose.
11:41
Have you ever thought about it?
11:43
Have you ever thought that
11:45
he will have to lose?
11:47
No, no, I have to think.
11:49
Have you ever thought that
11:51
he will be accused of corruption,
11:53
he will have to go to jail?
11:55
This is what makes me sad.
11:57
I had with me,
11:59
he was a very surprising person,
12:01
a young man,
12:03
he was coming for the
12:05
first time,
12:07
he came.
12:09
I had a lot of solace in that.
12:11
But when this
12:13
alcohol and all these things
12:15
came,
12:17
then I became sad.
12:19
Then I left.
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