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Taylor Swift Believes Blake Lively Manipulated Her in Justin Baldoni War | TMZ Live
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2/6/2025
Taylor Swift feels she was used by Blake Lively in her war with Justin Baldoni, and she resents Blake calling her one of her "dragons" and leveraging her name.
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We just broke a shocking story.
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There is a rift, and I think that is an understatement
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of a word, a rift between Taylor Swift and Blake Lively.
00:12
Taylor feels like she's been used.
00:15
Yeah, used in the middle of Blake Lively's war
00:19
with Justin Baldoni.
00:21
And there's certain things that we know Blake has said
00:25
about Taylor in reference to that battle
00:29
that do not sit well with Taylor at all.
00:32
The one, the big one, dragons.
00:35
So remember that what Taylor had told Justin
00:39
was that Blake herself, she said, was Khaleesi,
00:43
who was the queen in Game of Thrones,
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and Ryan, her husband, and Taylor were her dragons,
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her best friend, although I think best friend
00:53
is now past tense.
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So here's the way the stage gets set.
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You remember there was a big meeting
01:01
at Blake and Ryan's penthouse in New York City
01:04
where they were going over a script change
01:06
with Justin Baldoni.
01:08
Justin said at the time, remember during all the lawsuits,
01:11
he said he felt used, that he didn't know
01:14
he was gonna be ambushed with both Ryan there
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and Taylor Swift there.
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And we're thinking, oh, well, Blake is saying
01:21
Taylor was her dragon and she's there,
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so she got involved and to protect her.
01:27
So we're thinking, wow, Taylor Swift
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inserted herself in this.
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That didn't happen according to our sources.
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No, what happened was more of a happenstance meeting
01:37
between Taylor and Justin, and Taylor,
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well, I say happenstance, Taylor thinks
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it was done intentionally by Blake.
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So what happened was there was a two-hour meeting
01:48
with Blake, Justin Baldoni, and Ryan Reynolds.
01:53
At the end of the meeting, that was the time
01:56
Blake told Taylor to come over.
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And Taylor had no idea that there was any meeting going on.
02:02
No idea at all.
02:03
That anybody else was gonna be there.
02:04
And she believes, we're told, that Blake set her up
02:08
and wanted her to come in when Justin was still there
02:10
to show Blake's power.
02:12
Right, which is how Justin received it.
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He said that in his lawsuit.
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Which you would understand.
02:17
Right.
02:18
So Taylor walks in, had never met Justin before,
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and just basically looks at him,
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and the only thing she said, we're told,
02:27
is, oh, you know, good luck on your movie.
02:30
I'm looking forward to seeing It Ends With Us.
02:33
And she was saying that merely because she understood
02:35
she was meeting her friend's boss.
02:37
Right.
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Because Justin is the director of the movie.
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And it was that simple.
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That's all she said, we're told, and then Justin left.
02:44
So she never, she never inserted herself
02:49
in this dispute between Blake and Justin over the script.
02:53
But Blake certainly made it seem that way
02:56
with the text to Justin, and I think, honestly,
03:00
that text to Justin is saying, look at the power I have.
03:04
Right.
03:05
I have Taylor Swift.
03:05
Exactly, and we're told, too, that Taylor,
03:08
because obviously these text messages became public
03:10
in the lawsuit that Justin had filed,
03:13
and when Taylor saw the actual text
03:17
between Justin and Blake, you know,
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obviously she saw that Blake referred to her as the dragon,
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she's Khaleesi, and we're told that Taylor felt
03:26
that's kind of weird to say about her friend.
03:28
It's weird to call a friend a dragon.
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And, you know, Blake tried to say in her text message
03:35
something like, you know, these two are my dragons.
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They stand up for me when I can't stand for myself.
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They're well-respected in the industry,
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and really was playing up, like you said, Harvey,
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all the power that both her husband and Taylor Swift had.
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And it seems like that didn't sit well with Taylor.
03:53
No, no, no, no, we know it didn't sit well.
03:54
And it got worse since then.
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Because then Taylor started to ask questions, we're told,
04:00
and she's found out that Blake, according to our sources,
04:05
has been name-dropping Taylor to kind of, you know, flex.
04:09
Sort of leveraging Taylor, and specifically,
04:13
in one instance, telling an actress
04:15
that she had been cast by Taylor,
04:19
that, you know, the way it's described to us
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is that Blake said to this actress,
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oh, Taylor is the one who wants you in this role.
04:26
And we're told that Taylor had nothing to do
04:30
with casting anybody.
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So there's just no question
04:34
that this relationship is now fractured.
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And remember, Taylor is the godmother
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to one of Blake and Ryan's kids.
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So this relationship, the two of them were best friends.
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I mean, we saw them going out to dinner all the time.
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They were joined at the hip for-
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They were at the Super Bowl together last year.
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That's right, that's right.
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Don't expect that this year.
04:55
I don't think so.
04:56
Though, I will say the godmother part
05:00
means that maybe there's a chance that they can
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or they will repair it just for the sake of the kid.
05:07
But there's no question based on the people
05:09
we're talking with, and let me just say,
05:11
people we're talking with, no.
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That's all I'm gonna say.
05:15
And Taylor Swift is unhappy, again,
05:19
an understatement that she has been inserted into this.
05:23
And by the way-
05:24
And kinda used.
05:26
Not kinda.
05:26
Yeah, that's how she feels.
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She feels totally used.
05:30
And I think one of the things that made all of this surface,
05:34
we did a podcast, we have a new podcast,
05:36
me and Mark Garagos, called Two Angry Men.
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And it dropped yesterday,
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and we interviewed Brian Friedman, Justin's lawyer,
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and I was grilling him on whether he was going
05:49
to depose Taylor because the way it had been described,
05:51
it certainly seemed like Taylor was involved in this.
05:54
That's right, that's right.
05:55
And he was kinda cagey about it
05:57
because she was kinda the ace in the hole.
06:00
But now it looks like this whole thing was a sham
06:06
that Blake may have kind of built up.
06:09
And I do not see that friendship lasting, frankly.
06:14
Hi, I'm Elva from Latvia.
06:17
I have to say that I'm really not buying it.
06:20
Taylor is smart, and her team really is also smart,
06:24
so I think she's kind of just staying behind.
06:26
She doesn't wanna be in this drama,
06:28
but they are close friends, and her music is in the movie.
06:32
I feel like she really did put her finger into all of this,
06:35
and I think we might see her in the trial deposed.
06:40
I will only say to you, based on-
06:43
Yeah, I don't think there's gonna be a trial either.
06:45
But based on our sources, I think you're wrong.
06:50
Especially if that really was the nature of,
06:52
if it was just a passing, hey, I can't wait to see your movie,
06:55
what is there to depose her about?
06:56
There's nothing to depose her about.
06:58
And they may end up doing it just to get that on the record
07:02
because, honestly, if it's all true,
07:05
it makes Blake look really bad
07:06
that she's pressuring Justin with Taylor Swift
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and had kind of engineered that.
07:12
So they might end up calling her just for that reason.
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