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She's just a scared hustler with a kind heart - Ghost's Oda Mae Brown
SussexWorld
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07/02/2025
Think Oda Mae Brown in the film and musical Ghost, and you probably think comedy.
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Good afternoon, my name is Phil Hewitt, Group Arts Editor at Sussex Newspapers. Really lovely
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to speak to Jackie Dubois, who is playing one of the great roles in musical theatre.
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You are Oda May in Ghost and you've got dates coming up in, oh goodness, Crawley and Southampton
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and Eastbourne for us. What a wonderful role to play. How do you approach a role like that?
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Well I just have to get rid of all inhibition because, you know, there's no holding back
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when you're scared. She's scared most of the time and freaked out most of the time. Also
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I have to be on quite high alert to hear Sam, played by Josh Sinclair, to hear him talking
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to me and every little nuance that he makes. I can hear it all, but no one else can. Sometimes
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it just makes her jump out of her skin. That must be so tricky because you can never let
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on, can you? Obviously he's actually there, can you? No, I cannot look at him, I cannot
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make eye contact with him. How do you do that? Well, first of all, it's a bit like wherever
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I hear the sound from, look in the opposite direction. I mean, that's the basic.
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It's so disorientating. And you said something so interesting just now, talking about, I
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think so many people are saying, oh yes, comedy character, but you instantly said the point
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is that she's scared. That's the crucial thing, isn't it?
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Yeah, yeah. And so it's a thin line because sometimes the audience are really, really
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cracking up. And it's that thing of not going with that, but pushing the story forward because
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these are moments of humour, but it's really out of the fact that she's doing weird stuff.
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And for example, when she goes into the bank and she's playing a whole other character,
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supposedly this refined millionaire who's going to close her account, and Sam is on
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her shoulder coaching her through it. She doesn't know what she's about to say. It's
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just whatever he says, and however he says it, this other character appears so that she
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can con her way through to get the money out of the bank.
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And that's what makes her such a great character to play, because you're giving us a great
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time by having such an awful time yourself.
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Yeah, and people love that.
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Except, of course, you personally are having a great time.
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So, yeah, I do have a great time playing the part, but yeah, it's a lot of concentration.
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There's a lot of concentration in it, which is coming, it comes naturally to me now because
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I've done it. This is the first time I've done this role. And it's a beautiful role.
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And the thing is, when you find a role that you can just relax and be in, then all the
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things that the drama teachers tell you, just be, just listen. You can actually do that
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because you're not in your head thinking, oh my God, where am I going next? What am
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I saying? What's my cue? Like, you're just there. And it's a wonderful feeling to have
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that.
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And it's in a fantastic musical, isn't it?
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Yeah, yeah. My favourite song with you, sung by Molly, the actress playing it is Rebecca
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Lowing, and she just sings it absolutely beautifully, like flawless every night. It's amazing. Yeah,
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that's my favourite song. But there's a lot of different styles. Rocky, Cosplay, Souly,
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Musical Theatre. There's a lot of different styles. So there should be something in there
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for everybody.
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Brilliant. We're very much looking forward to seeing it again. Jackie, really lovely
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to speak with you. Thank you for your time.
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You too. All right. Take care.
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Thanks. Bye.
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