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Fighting “absurdity with absurdity” in our post-Brexit world - Worthing show
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02/02/2025
Worthing-based Jennifer Irons is promising to fight “absurdity with absurdity” as she tackles our post-Brexit world with her new show Bad Immigrant.
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Good afternoon, my name is Phil Hewitt, Group Arts Editor at Sussex Newspapers, really lovely
00:06
to speak to again, again to Jennifer Irons of Worthing, and you've got your world premiere
00:11
coming up of the new show, a new show that comes from a pretty dark place, it's called
00:16
Bad Immigrant, and that's been your experience, well, since Brexit fell on us really, isn't
00:22
it? Tell me about the starting point for this show.
00:27
Well, first of all, world premiere makes it sound like really amazing, so thank you for
00:31
that.
00:32
I'm sure it is.
00:35
World premiere in Worthing, so it came from sort of post-Brexit, the sort of shift in
00:42
how I felt being an immigrant in this country when I arrived 25 years ago, it felt very
00:48
welcoming and people were really excited to know where I was from, and then post-Brexit
00:53
I had people, literally, that I knew for a long time and said things to me like, maybe
00:58
you should just go home.
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It's absolutely tragic to hear, isn't it? How do you explain that? Can you begin to
01:04
explain that, why that should change?
01:08
Which part?
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That change, you know, that you were welcomed and that your accent was seen as an advantage,
01:14
and now you're saying your accent is seen as a failure to naturalise.
01:19
Well, it depends on what you read, but I think certain newspapers would have you believe
01:24
that everything from the lack of housing to the reason your dairy milk bar is smaller
01:29
is the fault of the immigrants.
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And so there's this kind of language around, you know, where to blame for things, all the
01:39
things, depending on who you speak to.
01:41
So there's an aim to want to shift that conversation a little bit.
01:46
It feels really absurd, and this is the word I use all the time, that the absurdity of
01:51
Brexit, the absurdity of the immigration rules, the absurdity of the way that immigrants are
01:56
spoken about.
01:57
So I'm fighting absurdity with absurdity and have decided to do some roller skating for
02:02
your enjoyment and entertainment.
02:05
Because that's your way to become a citizen of any country you want, then, if you became
02:09
a world champion, an elite sportswoman, and that's the absurdity.
02:15
Well, part of it, yeah, it's touching on a few of those things.
02:17
You know, it's this, there's this sort of perceived, you know, you need to deserve it.
02:25
You need to be grateful to be here.
02:27
You know, there's a sort of rules that immigrants are expected to follow.
02:30
And, you know, if you're a world champion athlete, then you're sort of lauded and will
02:36
accept you if you're good at sports or like really high achieving in something.
02:42
And so I kind of took the starting point as a Canadian sports person named Elizabeth
02:46
Manley when she won the silver medal in the Olympics.
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And she's who the person that sticks out in my mind.
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And it's a very sort of iconic image.
02:53
If you look her up, she's in this fluorescent pink outfit.
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And so there isn't much ice skating here, but there's a lot of roller skating.
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And so I thought, OK, I'm going to emulate my childhood hero and I'm going to see if
03:03
I can become a championship roller skater in two years.
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And if that happens, then maybe I'll be accepted here and accepted in Canada and accepted anywhere.
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And maybe you'll all love me.
03:15
I'm sure we will.
03:17
And that the hope clearly is to make people think again, to provoke a few changes, perhaps
03:22
in attitude.
03:23
Do you have any optimism that we can get back to being a welcoming country again?
03:29
Oh, I hope it has to be there.
03:32
Otherwise you just give up.
03:34
Yeah, I think absolutely.
03:36
And, you know, at the heart of it, it's really about, you know, everybody wants and needs
03:42
to belong to a community or belong to a group or belong to something.
03:45
And that's across all of humanity.
03:49
And so if we can find what that thing is and welcome other people in, each of us individually
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doing that is going to help and make it better.
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As long as that welcoming is with like love and joy and hope, then those little kind of
04:05
acts will, I think they kind of ripple out and they expand.
04:09
And the more of us that are doing it, better it's going to be.
04:14
And if it's fun and ridiculous and absurd on the way, even better.
04:20
Well, good luck with changing our world for the better.
04:23
It probably needs it.
04:24
The magic and joy and love of roller skating.
04:27
So you premiere, world premiere in February.
04:31
I'm thinking, hoping for an autumn tour.
04:35
Good luck with everything and lovely to speak to you.
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