📢 Habla NICOLÁS PAYAROLA, abogado de Wanda Nara: "Icardi obliga a las chicas a mentir"

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Nicolás Payarola, abogado de Wanda Nara, respondió todas las preguntas sobre el conflicto legal que tiene de protagonistas a Wanda Nara y Mauro Icardi.   #LAM

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05:30We can understand them, but it's the dynamics of that family.

05:33My role is to represent that family legally and not give therapeutic advice.

05:36I don't know if I used to do that before.

05:38Now, it gives us the feeling, when we listen to the audios from one side or the other,

05:42we all feel here, at least I think all of us, that both parents are

05:47drilling the brain of the girls so that they say such or such thing in the audio.

05:51It's the feeling.

05:53If we go to what is approved, at no time...

05:56No, yours is legal, I understand that.

05:58But legally, based on that, what is approved is...

06:02The girls were systematically asked to change the name of a person

06:06in disobedience to a judicial order.

06:08Doctor, I have a story to tell you.

06:10Wanda also submits to the girls, in front of a desk in Santa Bárbara,

06:19to declare against the father, with Wanda sitting there looking with a desk.

06:24I mean, it's crazy.

06:25It's crazy that Wanda doesn't manipulate the girls,

06:27when she was in front of a desk in Santa Bárbara.

06:29May I, Pepito?

06:31There is a moment when the girl speaks to him and tells him about the juvenile judge.

06:37That's not a phrase.

06:38No, it's a lexicon.

06:39I... No, no, no.

06:40I mean, there is an intervention of an adult who speaks...

06:45Wait a second, so I can...

06:47Of everything they said, I'm going to take the job, if they give me the place,

06:50to answer everything.

06:51First, Pepe, there is no submission.

06:53You weren't there.

06:54I was there.

06:55Okay?

06:56No, but it's not...

06:57I'm sorry.

06:58I mean, anyone who speaks...

06:59I was there.

07:00I mean, the moment when the girls asked to speak,

07:02and they expressed what they had to express.

07:04But they told him...

07:05But they told him that he was the writer.

07:07Sorry, sorry.

07:08Obviously, the writer, if you read the act that he opens,

07:11there is a notarial communication where the writers are given,

07:14precisely understanding if they have previous interviews,

07:17if they manage to generate a dialogue link with the minors,

07:20to be able to make testimonies,

07:22and those testimonies, even, imagine how calm we are...

07:25But, doctor, if you were there, it's even worse.

07:27Pepe, I'll let you interrupt me, but I'll keep answering you.

07:29No, it's okay, but it's...

07:30But I'll keep answering you.

07:31Forgive me, but it's not normal.

07:32It seems to me that there is a habit that if you speak above the other,

07:35what remains is what you say.

07:36You can say whatever you want, I'm going to answer you,

07:38the first thing you asked me.

07:39No, I'm talking in a context that seems to me that Wanda is there,

07:41you are there, who is Wanda's lawyer,

07:43in a context with a writer who should be in front of...

07:45I continue with the first question you asked me.

07:47...a cameraman, not in Wanda's house in Santa Barbara.

07:50Is that normal for you?

08:14Yes, what Pepe says is that he does not have legal power

08:16You are right.

08:20Beyond the legal power, it is what it is.

08:22I want to ask you specific things.

08:25Is it true that Icardi told his daughters that China was the babysitter?

08:30We do not have that certified anywhere,

08:33except what the minors tell in front of the writer.

08:36Is it true that Wanda is bothered by the presence of China in that house

08:40when her daughters are there?

08:43Wanda was aware all the time about the couple that may have Mauro.

08:47But it bothers her that China is there.

08:49It bothers her that she is with her daughters.

08:51Because that's what the audios say.

08:53It started to bother her when the girls told

08:56how the bond was and what they knew and what they didn't know.

08:59It's not good or bad, it bothers her.

09:01It can bother her.

09:02Like Icardi, it bothers her that she is elegant in the other house.

09:05What does elegant mean?

09:07I haven't spoken to Eliana for a couple of days.

09:09I spoke only about a topic that happened yesterday.

09:12What happened yesterday?

09:14Videos of a person circulated.

09:18Dakota.

09:20She is afraid of him, elegant.

09:22What?

09:23She is afraid of him, elegant said.

09:25The reality is that what he said was a little more serious

09:27because he made an accusation about a behavior by...

09:31Of violence?

09:32No, no, no violence.

09:33At least that's what we understand.

09:35Abandonment.

09:37That motivated a judicial presentation, not by this girl,

09:41but by the lawyers who had taken Eliana to trial.

09:45And in that sense we had to talk, nothing more.

09:48I go back a second to the subject of elegant and blah, blah, blah,

09:51which are like secondary participants in all this mess between Wanda and Mauro.

09:56Why does Wanda bother her?

09:58The presence of China with these episodes that you told.

10:02Yes, they themselves said that elegant was a lover of Wanda for three years

10:06and he was also in contact with the girls.

10:09What is the conflict?

10:11If the two had lovers or boyfriends or whatever.

10:14I really don't know, I don't know.

10:16But you talk to Wanda all day.

10:18No, no, but there was an idea that Eliana and Wanda had a relationship for three years

10:22and the reality is that...

10:23They said it.

10:24But they had intermittencies for three years, okay?

10:27It's not the same as a three-year relationship.

10:29Were the boys participants in that relationship or did they meet on that Wanda birthday?

10:32The only time I knew they were as a family was on Wanda's birthday

10:37and when she traveled with the three boys who went to stay with the father.

10:41And now your relationship with Elian, I say, right?

10:43Because we, from what we knew, I mean, how was that approach

10:47that he ends up playing for you, so to speak, in some way,

10:50so that you represent him.

10:51He was with Chipola before, I'm crazy.

10:53He was with Chipola.

10:54The first lawyer was Alejandro.

10:55How did you meet Elian?

10:56How did you get to Elian?

10:58By his producers, by his producers.

11:00Well, you cleaned Chipola and you cleaned Rosenfeld.

11:04They are very good lawyers, they are very alive, I don't know.

11:06After Alejandro, three more lawyers passed.

11:08There were three lawyers.

11:09I'm sorry, I'm not clear in all this discussion,

11:11what is the basis of why the girls are not with the father?

11:14Because we have proven that the father forced the girls to lie.

11:17But did the justice say that or do you determine it yourself?

11:20Because according to us...

11:21All parents are liars.

11:22It is what we denounce, it is what we denounce and accredit.

11:25But I tell you this, we had understood that the justice said that

11:27such a day had to reintegrate the boys.

11:29And before the birthday?

11:30Before or after, according to who counted, because they were 15 days.

11:33But shouldn't there be a judge who said, no, it's okay,

11:37that they stay with the mother for now?

11:39That is precisely what tomorrow's evidence is for.

11:41We present a complaint with the facts that the minors reported.

11:44But you are not disobeying a judicial order?

11:48No, I think it is, I imagine that we can understand it well.

11:54Given the facts that we know, we file a complaint.

11:57Until that complaint, which goes to the criminal court and the lawsuit

12:01in the civil court, asking for the interruption of the communication regime,

12:04is resolved, yes, we continue with the current state.

12:09In fact, when we notify the opposite party,

12:12to erode what they consider, they asked for five days of extension,

12:16with which they also understand, and in fact,

12:18they are taking five days to answer.

12:20They don't consider it a serious issue.

12:23I'm sorry, but I don't understand.

12:25You say that the foundation is that girls lie,

12:27and you established that in front of a desk in Wanda's house,

12:30with you in front.

12:31No, I didn't say that the foundation is that girls lie,

12:33that the father forces girls to lie.

12:35And Wanda doesn't?

12:37Wanda doesn't force girls to lie?

12:39No, we haven't taken that into account.

12:41Neither have you, doctor.

12:43Nor, at least, what I'm saying is,

12:46the law was not infringed,

12:48in fear of forcing minors to lie,

12:50on Wanda's side, if he hadn't been denounced.

12:52He doesn't have an excluded person,

12:54who has put her in his home.

12:56Does Mauro want the tenancy?

12:58They sued her, and that's how we did it too.

13:00And what did Wanda tell you when he found out about that?

13:03That he considered it a logical question,

13:06based on the belligerence that existed in the file.

13:09We understand, and I repeat it again,

13:11Mauro is excellently represented,

13:13legally.

13:15And if his lawyers presented that,

13:17they consider that it's the way,

13:19and on this side, it's the respect,

13:21and the legal work, obviously the opposite,

13:23because we have to represent Wanda.

13:25Did you commit to deliver the girls on the 15th?

13:27No.

13:28Isn't that in writing?

13:30No, they asked to sign an agreement,

13:32they asked Dr. Rosenfeld, they asked me,

13:34and neither Dr. Rosenfeld, nor I,

13:36agreed to sign that agreement.

13:38At Desvila station, at the IPF in Bancalar,

13:40where we talked so much?

13:42Yes, they were delivered at 7.30 on January 6th,

13:44when they were with Wanda.

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