P&P: We were wrong. Texans fans should've worried about officiating.

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Payne and Pendergast said Texans fans shouldn't worry about officials in the Chiefs game. They are here to admit they were wrong.

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00:00You and I especially, Sean, I think, have been getting attacked over and over again

00:04by people who traditionally and normally love us, because we warned everybody,

00:10hey, don't get too wrapped up in the officiating, and then, by GAR!

00:18I'm like, these people won! They won!

00:21I have been under attack, non-stop!

00:25Me too.

00:25By being me. I don't mind being hated and despised by various people,

00:32but the people who I want to like me are also angry at me right now.

00:36This is the one thing I'd say about this. I'm angry, but it's a little bit different.

00:41I'm not mad at the officials themselves, because honestly, the way that that rule is enforced,

00:49the way it's written in the playbook, and the way they expect the officials to call it,

00:55it's bogus, and Pat Mahomes exploits it to an extreme degree.

01:00He takes a rule that is meant to protect the safety of quarterbacks,

01:05and then he goes and puts himself in danger, consciously, to draw flags

01:12and exploit a rule that's supposed to protect quarterbacks.

01:16The NFL, for whatever reason, has decided not to make the fake slide illegal.

01:21Pat Mahomes is a practitioner of that.

01:23And then the NFL basically instructs the officials to, whenever there's any doubt about it at all,

01:31throw the flag, and then after that, they won't make it reviewable.

01:35So the second unnecessary roughness, I think, was the most egregious,

01:43in that Mahomes had the chance to run out of bounds, easily.

01:46It was right there for the taking.

01:48Instead, he put himself back into danger, and ran towards three full-speed running defenders,

01:56and then basically just, and then slid late,

01:59puts the defenders in an impossible position where they can't help but hit them,

02:03or worry about the fake slide or anything else,

02:05and end up getting penalized for it and extending a drive.

02:09It just, it's unacceptable.

02:11They gotta fix this.

02:12I'll blame, it's the competition committee, it's Pat Mahomes himself,

02:17because it's Bush League bogus crap that he doesn't really need to do.

02:21He's damn good enough already.

02:24And then also, look, it's on the coaches and owners too.

02:26Why have you not put more pressure on the competition committee?

02:29This is as much on D'Amico and Cal McNair as it is on anybody else here,

02:33because they allow this crap to exist.

02:35Yeah.

02:36They're out of my system.

02:37Yeah, no, no, no, you're absolutely right.

02:39And I think just specific to that Mahomes play,

02:41because we're gonna hear from D'Amico on this,

02:44Will Anderson Jr. on this in just a second.

02:47Troy Aikman on this.

02:48Man, Pat Mahomes almost broke Troy Aikman on Saturday afternoon.

02:51Like, Troy was ready to run down to the field himself

02:54and strangle Patrick Mahomes, I think.

02:55That specific play, it's not just running.

02:59I'm fine with guys that can get out of bounds and running back into danger

03:02if they're actually trying to gain yards.

03:04You know what I mean?

03:05Like, if you're running back in-

03:05He was seeking contact.

03:06If you're running back in there and you're putting a shoulder down,

03:10or you're actually running like a running,

03:11like Josh Allen would run back into it-

03:12If you're making forward progress.

03:14Yes.

03:14Right.

03:15Yeah, yeah, yeah.

03:16He was running laterally.

03:17I have no problem with a guy not getting out of bounds

03:19if he's trying to act like a football player,

03:22not like James Harden.

03:23You know what I mean?

03:24Like, he-

03:24Right.

03:25And then there's the flop later in the game.

03:27Like, Mahomes is a great player.

03:30Maybe the greatest player of this particular segment of football

03:34that we're in, you know, last seven or eight years.

03:36Yeah.

03:37That stuff's a joke.

03:38Like, that is an out-and-out, that's a flat-out joke.

03:42Mahomes should be ridiculed for that stuff.

03:44The flopping, especially.

03:47Flopping needs to be fined heavily, especially for quarterbacks

03:49because they make so much damn money.

03:51The fact that it's not reviewable,

03:54the fact that the foot first slide in close quarters is never-

03:59It's never the best way to protect yourself as a quarterback.

04:03Case Keenum said as much when we had him on a few weeks ago.

04:06You know, what he tells young guys all the time is,

04:08if you're going to slide feet first, you better have room to do it

04:12because the last thing standing, the last thing remaining to hit

04:16by any defender, whether he tries to hit you or not, is your head.

04:20And it's dumb.

04:21Like, if Pam Mahomes genuinely wanted to avoid contact there,

04:24he would have turtled and gone down just to the ground.

04:27And it's just, it's so damn un-American.

04:32It's just wrong.

04:33And was it a factor in the game?

04:34Yes.

04:35I'm kind of wired to try to not blame officiating

04:38because officiating is like a weather event.

04:41It's going to happen.

04:42You're going to have bad-

04:43This one bothers me because the actual rule and the way it's enforced,

04:47not the individual officials themselves, the actual rule itself is bogus.

04:51And it's on-

04:53I blame Cal McNair and D'Amico Ryans as much as anybody else.

04:56Get this crap fixed in the offseason.

04:58Peyton Manning used to-

04:59Peyton Manning used to exploit the rule book all the time.

05:02Right.

05:02They fixed it.

05:03They changed two specific rules because Peyton Manning was dodgy in that manner.

05:08As the local face of ownership and coaches, you blame them.

05:11I'm just picturing one of them getting in their car and turning on the radio like,

05:14what did I do?

05:16Get this crap taken care of.

05:17Yeah, you're right.

05:18You know, it's bogus.

05:19It's bad for football.

05:20I agree.

05:21No, I agree with you.

05:22Here was D'Amico after the game and didn't exactly mention the ref by name,

05:27but boy, this sure does seem like a tip of the hat at the officiating here.

05:31We knew going into this game, man, it was us versus everybody, right?

05:35When I say everybody, it's everybody.

05:37All of whatever, everybody, the naysayers, the doubt,

05:41right, everybody we had to go against today.

05:45And, you know, going with that, knowing going into this game, what we were up against,

05:51we can't make the mistakes that we made, right?

05:53We had a lot of self-inflicted mistakes that happened, whether it's special teams,

05:58not converting our kicks defensively, not being where we're supposed to be in coverage,

06:04offensively, not protecting our quarterback and keeping them clean.

06:07So, you know, you marry that on top of everything else that we had to deal with.

06:12It's going to be a really tough uphill battle.

06:14Okay, and so the pause there, right before he said everybody again, to me,

06:18that pause was clearly, you may as well put referees in that blank right there

06:21if we were transcribing it.

06:24But D'Amico acknowledging at the back end there that, yeah,

06:27there's plenty of the Texans did wrong in this game.

06:30And we absolutely should acknowledge that.

06:33Like the Texans, to Seth's point earlier,

06:35the referees didn't lose this game for the Texans.

06:38It was an element in the game not going their way, to be sure.

06:40But they outgamed the Chiefs by 124 yards.

06:44They didn't turn the ball over.

06:46They were well over 50% on third down in this game.

06:49Like they kept the chains moving in this game.

06:51They were-

06:51Honestly, going back and watching the second half again,

06:55C.J. Stroud played magnificently.

06:58Yes.

06:58The play, when he had actual time to throw,

07:01and to the receivers he was throwing to,

07:04without Nico Collins on the field for much of the second,

07:07like he made some incredible throws.

07:09Yeah.

07:10It was a great personal performance by him.

07:12He was tight windowing John Mechie and Xavier Hutchinson in this game.

07:16So they were 10 of 17 on third down.

07:18They held the ball seven minutes longer than the Chiefs.

07:21In a game against the team that held the ball for 10 of the final 11 minutes,

07:25the last time these two teams played a month ago,

07:28they held the ball for seven minutes longer.

07:29Again, I do this exercise, Seth,

07:31like you told me those things before the game,

07:33that they were going to do these things, the Texans, like blindly.

07:36I would have said, I bet they win this game.

07:38If they're 10 of 17 on third down,

07:40if they're out possessing and out gaining the Chiefs significantly,

07:43they're not turning the ball over on the road in this game.

07:45Are you kidding me?

07:46And yet the F-ups were so bad.

07:50It wasn't just the penalties that Mahomes got for being Mahomes.

07:53They had other very bad penalties in this game.

07:56The eight sacks allowed are the huge thing.

07:58And then that there was a sea of them,

07:59a barrage of them when you're trying to come back in a one possession game.

08:03The special teams, Frank Ross and his crew,

08:06picked the worst time to be the worst unit for this team on Saturday.

08:10They were awful.

08:12And the defense let Travis Kelsey kill them slowly throughout the afternoon.

08:16This is okay.

08:16The special teams.

08:17I mean, the only person outside of Houston,

08:19who's happy about the way that game was officiated was Kymie Fairbairn.

08:23Cause he hasn't been lambasted nearly enough for whatever the hell that was.

08:28Whatever the hell that was.

08:29He was lucky to make the one field goal he did make.

08:32It was, it was really, really bad.

08:34God, that's right.

08:34He barely snuck that one in there.

08:36Tommy Townsend with that 34 yard punt when you really needed a good point.

08:42He needed it.

08:42Yeah.

08:42They got it.

08:43The Chiefs got the ball at midfield.

08:45The Texans defense, I was harsher on them after the game than I should have been.

08:50Just because I forgot how bad the field position was on that touchdown drive.

08:55After the Tommy Townsend 34 yard point.

08:58The kickoff return, Chris Boyd doing whatever the hell he was doing.

09:03That was just a mess.

09:04And a disaster.

09:05That was really, really bad.

09:06Yeah, that was frustrating.

09:07It was bad.

09:09Look, the offensive line, I knew they were going to lose some snaps in that.

09:13I guess, I don't know exactly why they felt like for four quarters,

09:17Shaq Mason was going to at some point turn it around and start playing good football.

09:22Okay, there's that.

09:24I'm not mad at Bobby Slowick for putting, for having, for having Dalton Schultz

09:30on a defensive end on that one sack.

09:33I'm mad at Dalton Schultz.

09:34They were, look, look, the Chiefs were blitzing like crazy.

09:37They were sending six man blitzes over and over and over again.

09:40Yeah, at times when you do that, you're going to end up with a tight end on a defensive end.

09:43Try to slow him down a smidgen.

09:45Can you slow him down a smidgen?

09:47The running backs were awful in pass protection and in blitz pickup.

09:51The eighth sacks is unacceptable.

09:53It's not like, I saw that one guy on Twitter, fluffy foofoo bear or whatever,

09:58said that he was adamant that, look, look, the Texans were sad

10:02after those bad calls went against them.

10:05And that's why, all right, are we really going to do this?

10:07Are we going to be talking about your football players being sad?

10:11I'm sorry, I didn't realize the offensive line was depressed the entire season

10:14and that's why pass protection was so bad.

10:17I didn't realize that Dalton Schultz only pass blocks when he's got the warm fuzzies.

10:21And if he's got the cold pricklies, it's not a good day for it.

10:24No, they got to hold up their end of the bargain.

10:27The offense just simply wasn't good enough this year.

10:30They did some really good things in this game.

10:32I thought CJ Stroud was really good individually.

10:36I'll make some excuses for him because the wide receivers,

10:39they were banged up enough going into the game.

10:41Then Nico Collins is on the field.

10:43Apparent, maybe according to floofy bear,

10:46he was on the sideline with melancholy instead of an actual injury.

10:50Yeah, yeah.

10:51Boy, did you see the play that people thought maybe Nico got popped in that game?

10:56Like the play that got him that injury in that game?

10:58But he got chipped downfield by a linebacker, like popped right in the ribs.

11:02By a linebacker, yeah.

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