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दिल्ली चुनाव जीतने के लिए आम आदमी पार्टी की क्या है रणनीति? गोपाल राय ने ईटीवी भारत से किया खुलासा, पढ़ें पूरा इंटरव्यू
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1/20/2025
आम आदमी पार्टी के प्रदेश संयोजक और दिल्ली सरकार में मंत्री गोपाल राय से दिल्ली के ब्यूरो हेड आशुतोष झा ने विस्तार से बात की.
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00:00
Who will be the leader after winning the elections? Modi ji.
00:04
Modi ji is the Prime Minister of the country. He is not going to be the Chief Minister of Delhi.
00:08
Voting will take place on 5th February for the Legislative Assembly Elections.
00:11
The process of nomination will be completed tomorrow.
00:13
And this time, the Aam Aadmi Party has joined forces with Purn Bahumat in an effort to create a hat-trick.
00:20
To talk to us about the election strategy, we have with us the Minister of the Delhi Government
00:25
and the State Coordinator of the Party, Gopal Rai ji.
00:28
Gopal, what strategy has the party made to create a hat-trick?
00:33
The Aam Aadmi Party has only one strength.
00:37
And that is the strength of its work.
00:39
The Aam Aadmi Party has worked for the people of Delhi in spite of all the adverse circumstances,
00:46
in spite of all the challenges, in spite of all the difficulties of the Bharatiya Janata Party.
00:55
Be it electricity, water, schools, hospitals, women's movement,
00:59
the pilgrimage of the elderly, the development of unauthorised colonies,
01:03
the work for the people of Jhuggi Jhopdi, the work for the honour of Purvanchal,
01:08
the work for the women, the work for the elderly, the work for the children.
01:13
So, in every field, the work that the Aam Aadmi Party has done,
01:18
we are going to the people for that work.
01:21
And there is only one voice coming from the people,
01:25
that we want the government of Arvind Kejriwal again.
01:29
And for two years, the government has been formed twice with the full majority.
01:34
Till now, the work you have done, you are coming down for the third time.
01:37
Do you see any anti-incumbency in your mind, on the ground,
01:41
when you are doing elections, when you are doing assemblies?
01:45
Look, the expectations of the people are more.
01:50
But, the way we have worked, people have faith in the fact that,
01:56
the work that is going to be done in the future, if there is a party to do it,
02:00
it is the Aam Aadmi Party.
02:02
If there is a Chief Minister to do it, it is Arvind Kejriwal.
02:05
That is why, people have faith in the Aam Aadmi Party.
02:09
Because, the parties that are in front of us,
02:11
the Congress Party is not in a position to form a government in Delhi.
02:16
As far as the Bharatiya Janata Party is concerned,
02:19
people can see that, every three times,
02:22
people of the Bharatiya Janata Party win the Lok Sabha.
02:26
The government is being formed three times in the centre.
02:28
But, when it comes to work, the Bharatiya Janata Party becomes zero.
02:33
That is why, people feel that, if we want work, we need the government of Kejriwal.
02:38
This time, what is the political scenario?
02:41
BJP's President has issued a single letter of resolution.
02:47
This is the first time that a party has issued a resolution in one, two or three parts.
02:52
Arvind Kejriwal has described it as a copy-paste of the Aam Aadmi Party manifesto.
02:57
Look, the Bharatiya Janata Party is completely confused in this election.
03:02
Who will be the leader after winning the election?
03:04
They say, Modi Ji.
03:06
Modi Ji is the Prime Minister of the country.
03:08
He is not going to be the Chief Minister of Delhi.
03:10
So, first of all, they do not have a leader.
03:12
Secondly, what will be the policies?
03:14
The Bharatiya Janata Party is completely divided about this.
03:18
There is confusion.
03:19
Till now, they have been abusing the free beach by drinking water.
03:23
That, Kejriwal gives it for free, Kejriwal gives it for free.
03:26
Now, they have to do it for free out of helplessness.
03:29
So, don't you think that this is different from their ideology?
03:32
When in the whole country, they have been opposing this,
03:35
and here, they are free.
03:37
This is different from their ideology.
03:39
Why is this happening in Delhi?
03:41
Have you forced them?
03:42
This is the helplessness of losing.
03:45
Because they feel that they cannot beat Arvind Kejriwal.
03:53
And that is why, in that helplessness,
03:56
they are speaking the opposite of what they used to say.
04:01
That is why, the people have a question in their minds.
04:03
The things that you used to oppose yesterday,
04:06
even if they vote for you,
04:08
this is not your ideology,
04:10
the facility to vote for the people.
04:12
So, after winning, you are saying such things just for the vote,
04:15
under the pressure of Kejriwal.
04:16
So, people feel that Kejriwal has done the work,
04:20
and Kejriwal will continue to do it.
04:22
So, we will stay with Kejriwal.
04:23
You just said that BJP does not have a face.
04:26
But, if you see the last record,
04:27
they have not contested the elections with a face.
04:31
Once, they defeated Kiran Bedi.
04:34
But, this time,
04:36
it is seen for the first time,
04:38
in the hoardings of Vidhan Swachhnawaz,
04:42
there is a picture of Modi Ji.
04:44
There is neither Amit Shah, nor Nadda.
04:46
Modi Ji is alone.
04:48
And, in a way, a message is being given
04:50
that this time, he is competing.
04:52
So, is Modi Ji going to become the Chief Minister of Delhi?
04:55
Modi Ji will not become the Chief Minister.
04:57
He is the Prime Minister of the country.
04:59
The people of Delhi want to know that
05:01
if we win the BJP,
05:02
then who will run Delhi?
05:04
Who will be the Chief Minister of Delhi?
05:06
Who will be the Chief Minister among the leaders of Delhi?
05:11
The Bharatiya Janata Party does not have a leader
05:13
to run Delhi.
05:15
And, we are seeing the condition of the politicians.
05:17
They do not even know.
05:19
In helplessness, they started doing freebies.
05:23
So, the slogan of freebies,
05:25
the flag,
05:27
which Kejriwal Ji raised,
05:29
now, in helplessness,
05:30
we have to hold on to the BJP.
05:32
So, among the people,
05:33
why should we choose a helpless man?
05:35
Whose principle is to serve the people,
05:38
to help,
05:39
to provide support,
05:40
to provide facilities,
05:41
we will stay with him.
05:42
But, BJP has also said that
05:45
Arvind Kejriwal cannot become the CM here
05:48
as long as this case is going on.
05:51
So, can there be a new face in this matter?
05:54
So, they are saying that Arvind Kejriwal is going to become the CM.
05:58
They are also accepting that Arvind Kejriwal is going to become the CM.
06:02
The common man is going to become the government of the party.
06:04
They are accepting this much.
06:05
And, as far as the matter is concerned,
06:06
they even went to the court
06:07
that Arvind Kejriwal should not become the CM.
06:09
Did the court say that he has the right to become the CM?
06:12
Arvind Kejriwal should become the CM.
06:14
Congress, this time,
06:15
compared to the last two elections,
06:17
this time,
06:18
is trying to move ahead.
06:21
In what form are you seeing that?
06:23
Look,
06:24
there is a question in the minds of the people of Delhi.
06:27
The people of Delhi need work.
06:29
The work will be done by the government.
06:32
Congress is very far from the fight to make a government.
06:36
Today, there are zero MLAs.
06:37
There are no MLAs.
06:38
So, if Congress makes a government in Delhi,
06:41
no one has any hope.
06:43
That is why no one wants to spoil the vote.
06:45
People think that we have to vote for work.
06:48
We need a government that works.
06:50
So, the political experts are saying that
06:52
if there is a fight in Congress,
06:54
the vote of the common man party will fall.
06:58
You do not believe that?
07:00
No, the experts are saying that
07:01
the vote of the common man party will be cut by Congress.
07:05
So, BJP government will be formed.
07:07
This is what the experts are saying.
07:08
The people of Delhi do not want the BJP government.
07:10
That is why the people of Delhi will not distribute votes.
07:12
Arvind Kejriwal and the common man party will vote.
07:15
Congress has done a lot of freebies.
07:18
So, it is one step ahead of the BJP.
07:21
So, did you not have a clash
07:24
in the Managing Bidhan Sabha elections
07:26
like you had in the Lok Sabha elections?
07:28
Look, the first thing is that
07:30
the people of Delhi are fighting this election.
07:32
And the people of Delhi know what we have to do.
07:38
In the last two Lok Sabha elections,
07:44
the BJP won seven times.
07:47
And after that, in the Managing Bidhan Sabha elections,
07:51
the people of Delhi have given orders
07:53
to the common man party to work with great enthusiasm.
07:57
The people of Delhi are again going to give orders to the common man party.
08:01
Why? Because they want work.
08:03
And Arvind Kejriwal and the common man party can work.
08:06
There was a dent in corruption
08:09
that the four leaders of the party
08:11
are in jail and are out on bail.
08:14
Do you think this has caused any damage?
08:17
Our credibility has increased more than this among the people.
08:21
Because, look, until you pass a fire test,
08:27
every person is right.
08:30
But you think, for two years,
08:34
the agencies of the BJP searched the whole country day and night.
08:40
They did not find a single person.
08:42
Everyone came out of the court.
08:44
So, this has increased the credibility of the people.
08:47
If anything had happened, something would have been found.
08:50
So, the people's trust in the leaders of the common man party
08:54
has increased even more.
08:57
People have understood that after so many misuse agencies,
09:01
if nothing is coming out,
09:03
it means that our leaders are right.
09:06
You played the most important role in running the organization.
09:11
After the formation of the common man party,
09:13
you were given an important responsibility.
09:15
Not just Delhi, but other states of the country.
09:17
So, what happened this time
09:19
that so many MPs lost their tickets in the election?
09:22
If their work was good,
09:24
if the government's work was good,
09:26
then why did this happen?
09:28
Every time in the elections,
09:30
some people's tickets have been changed.
09:33
Last time, 22 tickets were changed.
09:36
This time, fewer tickets have been changed.
09:38
So, the situation on the ground,
09:40
because the environment of the whole of Delhi is the same,
09:43
in different committees, in different situations,
09:46
we took feedback from the public, we surveyed.
09:49
And those who can be better candidates,
09:53
in the current situation,
09:55
the party decided to run the elections.
09:58
So, do you think that the people of Delhi
10:00
have a lot of expectations from our party government?
10:04
And that's why there was a need to do this.
10:08
No, there are expectations,
10:10
and we have to fulfill those expectations.
10:12
Three times in the third time.
10:14
No, there are expectations,
10:16
and we have fulfilled those expectations.
10:18
And we have made our strategy for the future.
10:20
Our Arvind Kejriwal ji,
10:22
the party has issued its guarantees.
10:24
So, the work that was done earlier will continue.
10:26
In the future, we are preparing for women's rights.
10:30
We are preparing for treatment for the elderly.
10:34
Just like the women's journey was free,
10:36
we are preparing for the same for the students.
10:39
So, we are preparing for the future as well.
10:41
This time, we will do better work
10:43
and give it to the next government.
10:45
Why should we give the last message to the voters,
10:49
to the common man party?
10:51
We want to say one thing.
10:54
Look at the track record of all the parties.
10:58
And if you feel that the parties in Delhi
11:02
have done better work than you
11:04
to make your life better,
11:08
then the common man party has become the leader
11:10
of the common man party with full power.
11:12
After the Lok Sabha elections were over,
11:14
you had asked a question
11:16
about the future of the India-Gatwandan.
11:19
You had said that our gatwandan was for the Lok Sabha elections.
11:22
We will fight separately in Delhi Vidhan Sabha elections
11:25
and other states.
11:27
So, what do you think is the future of India-Gatwandan?
11:31
India-Gatwandan was in the Lok Sabha elections.
11:34
It is still in the Lok Sabha elections.
11:36
In Vidhan Sabha elections,
11:38
we are fighting the elections with the public.
11:40
And our attempt is to make the government
11:42
of the common man party in Delhi
11:44
and to make the work that is going on faster.
11:47
Sir, the issue of Yamuna being polluted
11:51
and pollution is a big issue
11:55
that is emerging in this election.
11:57
But Arvind Kejriwal said yesterday
11:59
in an election conference
12:01
that we have not been able to do three things.
12:03
This is in it and in the next five years.
12:05
So, apart from this,
12:07
have you made any plans
12:09
or have you started any rules
12:11
that we can really improve it?
12:13
No, we can do it and we are doing it.
12:15
Pollution has improved a lot in Delhi.
12:18
In 2016, out of 365 days,
12:21
only 109 days were good.
12:24
It is on record.
12:26
The result of the work we did
12:28
is that this year we have achieved 209 days.
12:31
So, we have travelled from 109 to 209 days.
12:34
Our efforts will continue in the future.
12:37
We have worked 70-80%.
12:41
We will focus on the remaining work
12:43
in the next government.
12:45
Thank you very much.
12:47
This was Amadi Party's state coordinator
12:50
who spoke about his election issues,
12:53
politics and why people should vote for him.
12:58
From New Delhi,
12:59
with cameraman Sandeep Kumar,
13:00
I am Ashutosh Jha.
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