Is Imran Khan seeing the negotiations as successful? Ali Amin Gandapu

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00:00We just met the committee of Muzakirat, but you had a separate meeting with Mr. Khan.

00:05He said that this is the real meeting.

00:07Find the news here, the rest is fine.

00:09So, Mr. Khan, are you satisfied with the success of Muzakirat?

00:12I think they are just fooling us, but okay, expose them.

00:15What do you think?

00:17I think that when a person does any work,

00:21because our faith is in Allah,

00:23so if a person has a good thought,

00:26then Allah will bless him.

00:30So, I don't comment on this,

00:33because what I am doing,

00:35I am doing it with a good intention,

00:37with the permission of Mr. Khan,

00:39for Pakistan,

00:40despite all the injustices I have faced.

00:42So, I think that if I say that

00:44until there is no response,

00:47I don't comment on this,

00:50because it is possible that my comments are not correct,

00:53and Allah decides

00:55that when these things are going to be fixed,

00:57so, I think, with a good intention,

01:00without any doubt,

01:01a person should do everything.

01:02As it is, doubt is haram in Islam.

01:04You should have a good intention.

01:05They say that the moment you have a doubt,

01:07don't do that work.

01:08So, if I create a doubt in me,

01:11then I should not be a part of the committee.

01:13That's why I want to stay away from doubt.

01:15Right, and in this,

01:16first of all, you want to become a Judicial Commissioner,

01:18and secondly, the release of prisoners.

01:19Do you want the release of prisoners through an executive order?

01:21Look, the release of prisoners,

01:23we don't have any such case on them.

01:25That's why you want to be released through an executive order?

01:27No, through a legal process.

01:28I want to be released through a court process.

01:29The pressure on the courts,

01:30What then?

01:31that now,

01:32for example,

01:33our people of 26th November,

01:35now, each and every person

01:36has been given FIRs in 5-6 police stations.

01:38I have arrested people from D.E. Khan,

01:40and put them in the Lahore case.

01:42Although, they had gone here.

01:44Then, I put them in Sargodha.

01:45Then, I put them in Mianwali.

01:46All this shouldn't happen.

01:47So, they are making us go around.

01:48Then, we apply for bail.

01:51The judge went on leave.

01:53Then, the judge changed.

01:54They didn't take our people.

01:56They didn't present them.

01:57So, these tactics should be banned.

01:59Otherwise, we will do our legal work.

02:01You don't want the release through an executive order?

02:02No, we don't need it.

02:03Look, it's a baseless case.

02:05There were innocent people.

02:06They had gone for a peaceful protest.

02:08They were shot at.

02:10Their police was killed.

02:11They were arrested illegally.

02:13It's an illegal work.

02:14It's not just a case of presenting.

02:15It will end on its own.

02:16Sir, show some leniency.

02:18You are saying that the 3rd session will take place on 17th.

02:20If the Judicial Commission is not formed in that session,

02:22then the protest will end.

02:23They will say that they will give us some time.

02:25We will think and tell you.

02:26If the Commission will not be formed in the 3rd session,

02:28then the protest will end.

02:29No, the meaning of the Commission being formed is that

02:30there will be an announcement.

02:31There will be no announcement.

02:32Then, the Commission will be formed.

02:34Who will be in the Commission?

02:35Who will be the head?

02:36Who else will be there?

02:37How can all this happen on 17th?

02:38No, we are not saying that the Commission should be formed.

02:40People should be allowed.

02:41We are saying that we should have an agreement with this.

02:45That the Commission should be formed.

02:47And what is there in the Commission?

02:48You tell me.

02:49What is their danger in the Commission?

02:52They say that we have done it.

02:53There they themselves are saying that the Commission should be formed.

02:55So, they should be happy.

02:57Okay, the second thing is that

02:59the people who are our bosses,

03:01we don't disown them.

03:02They did stupidity.

03:04They made a mistake.

03:05They entered somewhere.

03:06So, at least I don't disown them.

03:08They were my people.

03:10They were the people of our party.

03:11And they should be punished or they should be forgiven?

03:13Whoever is punished according to the law of the land,

03:17they should be punished.

03:19As much as they are.

03:20If they have done this much,

03:22then this much punishment cannot be given to them.

03:24Now, what is happening?

03:25Now, our boy has just been released from the military trial.

03:29You have seen his old video.

03:32He is such a brave, talkative,

03:34a boy who becomes the voice of people.

03:37He is the deputy minister.

03:38Now, after coming back,

03:40he has lost his mental balance.

03:42And his speech,

03:44the pitch of his speech,

03:46that is a complete change.

03:48So, this...

03:49You are saying that our people made a mistake.

03:50Punish them as much as they have committed a crime.

03:52This didn't reach this stage.

03:55It must have reached at that time.

03:57So, why was he kept in such a state

03:59that he reached to this extent and left to this extent?

04:02So, see, there are our people.

04:04There is a mistake.

04:05Except for Allah,

04:06every person is a statue of sin.

04:08He can make a mistake.

04:09The meaning of a mistake is not that

04:11you make it unlawful

04:12and make it a personal ego

04:14and go to this extent with someone.

04:16Sometimes you shoot him.

04:17Sometimes you torture him.

04:18You torture at a level

04:20that you have never done with those people

04:22who were really terrorists.

04:24You declare someone

04:26that he is a terrorist of social media.

04:28I don't know what name you have given him.

04:30You say to someone,

04:32that he was armed.

04:34Where were we armed?

04:36If we were armed,

04:38then what happened to us,

04:40then what happened to us?

04:42And then they put a ranger on us.

04:44Do you know who is the owner of that ranger's car?

04:47Who is it?

04:48You check it.

04:49He was a very responsible man of his party.

04:53He is his nephew.

04:55And he is on drugs.

04:59He was not driving himself.

05:00He is the owner.

05:01He was driving himself.

05:02He was driving himself.

05:03The owner was driving himself.

05:04He is with them.

05:05That man is on drugs.

05:07And he was not coming with us.

05:09He got into a car

05:11in Islamabad.

05:13And he made an FIR on us.

05:15What kind of humanity is this?

05:17I have an FIR of 302 on me.

05:21I have an FIR of 9 May on Imran Khan.

05:23In Lahore.

05:25Justice should be done.

05:27Absolutely right.

05:29Agreeing to this,

05:31I would say that when you are saying

05:33that we have made mistakes,

05:35then I own it.

05:37If I have a person,

05:39because of ignorance,

05:41because of a mistake,

05:43because of foolishness,

05:45because of emotions,

05:47if he has crossed a line,

05:49then he should be punished for crossing that line.

05:51He should be punished.

05:53It is not that I make a mistake

05:55and you give me such a big punishment.

05:57Then you don't think the idea is right

05:59that when they say 9 May,

06:01you should apologize.

06:03No.

06:05If you want to arrest me,

06:07then do it.

06:09And then you go there,

06:11break the doors,

06:13break the windows,

06:15catch him by the collar.

06:17He is such a popular leader.

06:19You drag him like this.

06:21You yourself have aroused the emotions of the people.

06:23And when you arouse the emotions of the people,

06:25then if people protest,

06:27then obviously,

06:29if someone goes a little ahead in their emotions,

06:31then you will make him a terrorist.

06:33It is not like that.

06:35Now,

06:37if we go ahead in this,

06:39then let's complete the topic of negotiations first.

06:41Do you think that the sudden attack

06:43was considered bad because of some tweets?

06:45Was it because of some tweets from Khan's account?

06:47No.

06:49I think that there was a gap between us.

06:51One of the reasons was that

06:53we had a meeting.

06:55It was demanded that we have a meeting

06:57with our Khan.

06:59And in that,

07:01Mr. Aiyaz Sadiq

07:03was busy for 2-3 days.

07:05He was out of station.

07:07So, he could not attend the meeting.

07:09So, there was a gap of a few days.

07:11And as soon as he came back,

07:13we had a meeting with our Khan.

07:15And tomorrow,

07:17the day after tomorrow,

07:19we will have a meeting again.

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