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00:00He was interested in sports.

00:01He had a big goal to become a sports legend.

00:04He came to be a journalist for that.

00:06Sometimes we have songs in our mind.

00:08But who sang it?

00:10Or who is the musician?

00:12Or who is the artist?

00:13Sometimes people don't pay attention.

00:15Ummukka, as Shashi brother said,

00:17is not out there.

00:18That's it.

00:19It's only in that.

00:20He didn't even know this.

00:22But he heard the name of a person he didn't know,

00:24Mojta.

00:26For both songs,

00:27Unniyaarari and Rakyam Thikiranam.

00:29For both.

00:30Each person has different skills.

00:32If we take you as an example,

00:34who made a song,

00:36if we examine your life path,

00:38you have a deep knowledge

00:40about Malayalam songs

00:42and music.

00:44Since you were a medium,

00:46how did you decide

00:48to take this path?

00:52I didn't do it on purpose.

00:54I didn't do it on purpose.

00:57I can say it as a result

00:59of my memories.

01:01I studied journalism

01:03in Calcutta University.

01:05It was a degree.

01:07B.J.

01:08I had a first rank in that.

01:10It was the time when

01:12Kerala Govt. launched the Kozhikode edition.

01:14For the first time,

01:15photo composing,

01:16computerized printing

01:18and typesetting.

01:19I was the first in India.

01:21Naturally,

01:22I had a desire to join that.

01:24I went there.

01:25I got a job there.

01:27I joined as a journalist trainee

01:29at a salary of Rs. 400.

01:31At that time,

01:33football was my favorite event.

01:35I was interested in sports.

01:37My goal was to join sports.

01:39I was coming to journalism

01:41for that.

01:43Naturally,

01:45I needed a sports reporter there.

01:47So,

01:49for the first time,

01:51I joined the Kozhikode Nehru Cup

01:53as a sports reporter.

01:57At that time,

01:59songs were in my mind.

02:01There was no one in Malayalam

02:03who wrote about songs.

02:05In English,

02:07there were few people like Raju Bharathan.

02:09So,

02:11I never thought of writing about songs

02:13or doing research on songs.

02:15I love listening to songs.

02:17I have a special interest in some songs

02:19and some music directors.

02:21I knew who the composers were.

02:23I knew their writing,

02:25music,

02:27actors,

02:29lines,

02:31length,

02:33etc.

02:35At the end of 1980s,

02:37Leela Chechi,

02:39P. Leela,

02:41came to Kozhikode.

02:43She was a singer

02:45like my childhood.

02:47We used to listen to

02:49Suprabhatam,

02:51Guruvayur, Narayani,

02:53Jnanapan in the morning.

02:55I think it was because of

02:57the atmosphere of my house.

02:59I wanted to meet her.

03:01I had a great desire.

03:03So, I went there.

03:05My mother,

03:07Mulyasheri Rajagopal,

03:09was a character

03:11who became famous through Devaswara.

03:13She was my mother's first cousin.

03:15She was my friend,

03:17philosopher and guide.

03:19So, I fulfilled

03:21my mother's wish.

03:23She asked me

03:25why I was afraid.

03:27She knew that I had a good relationship

03:29with singers.

03:31She invited me to meet her.

03:33So, I went to meet

03:35Leela Chechi with her blessings.

03:37I was very happy

03:39when I met her.

03:41She had a photo of Guruvayur

03:43on the wall.

03:45She had a very pure

03:47impression on Leela Chechi.

03:49She didn't say anything bad

03:51about anyone.

03:53So, I talked about

03:55Leela Chechi's songs.

03:57We talked for a long time.

03:59I asked her the story of those songs.

04:01Naturally,

04:03she liked to talk about it

04:05because she knew about those songs.

04:07We talked for a long time.

04:09I didn't notice it

04:11because I didn't want to interview her.

04:13I didn't notice it.

04:15I just kept it in my mind.

04:17After that, I went out

04:19to ask her about my journey.

04:21She came with me.

04:23When I asked her about my journey,

04:25she asked me a question

04:27that was in her heart.

04:29She asked me where I got

04:31this question from.

04:33I was very sad.

04:35We never think about

04:37whether this interview

04:39will be published

04:41or not.

04:43I was too shy to

04:45say it to her.

04:47I asked her to say it.

04:49I was very tensed

04:51because it was my favorite song.

04:53I was very tensed

04:55because it was my favorite song.

04:57I kept it in my mind

04:59and made it into a script.

05:01I kept it in my mind

05:03and made it into a script.

05:05I sent it to Vasarendran

05:07who was in charge of

05:09the notation for the song.

05:11He published it.

05:13Without even knowing

05:15me, I became

05:17a person who writes songs.

05:19He was a very regular

05:21singer and

05:22music composer.

05:24He was a very regular

05:26singer and

05:29musician.

05:31He composed

05:33He composed

05:35his songs

05:37Malayalees have gone through some unforgettable memories, haven't they?

05:41Of course, Raj. I feel that Jayanmash is...

05:43We now call them legends.

05:46Udayvarajan, Baburaj, Dakshinamurthy, Raghavan, Arjunamash.

05:50They are all seen as legends.

05:52When it comes to them, the name Jaya Vijaya is often not mentioned.

05:57But I feel that they are people who have inherited a similar music from their path.

06:05Especially in the world of Bhakti music.

06:07They are people who have built an independent culture.

06:11All the songs they have composed are their own.

06:15There are songs that they have sung.

06:18They have composed very few songs in the film.

06:21One of them is this Nakshatra Deepam.

06:23Hridayam Devalayam.

06:25They say that this is not a song written for a film.

06:27Vijayachetan did not write this song for a film.

06:30When I saw a book called Hridayam Devalayam in front of a temple,

06:35I wrote it with an idea that I had read in that book.

06:38I wrote a few lines.

06:40When the film Thiruvi Geetham came out,

06:42I had to give the logic in its situation.

06:46Jayanmash composed it.

06:48Vishwas sang it.

06:50It was beautiful.

06:51But that film was not released.

06:53People have not seen the visuals of it yet.

06:55But even then, that song became a super hit.

06:58What is special about such songs is that

07:00we can see the visuals in our own way.

07:05Hridayam Devalayam was an impossible song.

07:07That is their classic song.

07:09Nakshatra Deepam is also the same.

07:11Vijayachetan did not write it for a film.

07:13When he was living in Madras,

07:16when Jayavijayan went to the lodge,

07:21he kept a diary in his hand and went to the temple.

07:26Visually, Jayavijayan came to see the diary.

07:29He saw a poem about Chembai Swamy and Palakkad Mani.

07:34They got a poem.

07:35They started composing from there.

07:37This song, which was composed,

07:40was a remake of a film called Niraguda.

07:44Jayavijayan decided to use this song

07:47for a situation in the film Beem Singh Direct.

07:52Their life is a compilation of such stories.

07:56They have their own character.

07:59If it is their song, it should be an energetic song.

08:03Bhakti is such a feeling.

08:05Bhakti is a song full of energy.

08:10So, there was a period for them.

08:13That period is why Jayavijayan retired and came back.

08:16If you look at our writings,

08:19S. Janaki is still looking for a singer

08:23who can sing like Jayavijayan.

08:27What do you think about that?

08:30I have often felt that

08:33we have songs in our mind.

08:36But many people don't pay attention

08:39to who is the singer or who is the musician.

08:42Some crazy people like me follow them.

08:46It is my desire to find such people

08:49and bring them to the light.

08:56I always write about what I want to know,

08:59what I want to read.

09:02That is what I write for others.

09:05I am my own prototype.

09:08There are many singers like this.

09:11Janaki Mata sang a song called

09:14Mellai Ni Mellai Veru.

09:17Many people think that it is Kallara Gopan.

09:20But there is a singer like this.

09:23He has composed only a few songs.

09:26He has gone with his business.

09:29There are many such songs.

09:32I like to go in search of such singers.

09:35That is how I chose Gopan.

09:38Gopan asked me if people still remember me.

09:41I told him that people still remember me.

09:44That song was composed by K.J.Joy.

09:47There are many singers like Janaki Mata.

09:50Satheesh Babu sang Mellai Ni Mellai Veru.

09:53I am happy that I have become a reason

09:56to bring such people to the limelight.

10:02Let me connect to what you said.

10:05I.V. Shashi has composed a song

10:08called Kannur Rajan Sangeetha.

10:11Kannur Rajan's songs are similar to

10:14those of A.T. Umar's songs.

10:17There is a difference between his songs

10:20and his songs.

10:23It has led to many controversies.

10:26What is special about Shashi is that

10:29he says that he is the Chakravarthi of his cinema.

10:32He says that his songs will be used

10:35not only in the film but also in the camera.

10:38He has used music directors

10:41who match his vision.

10:44One of them is A.T. Umar.

10:47Shashi says that there is no Ummukka

10:50other than Kannur Rajan's songs.

10:53Kannur Rajan composed a song

10:56for the play.

10:59Shashi wants to use the song

11:02in his film.

11:05A.T. Umar is the director of the film.

11:08The song comes out in his name.

11:11He plays many important roles in the film.

11:14At that time, Kannur Rajan is worshipped.

11:17A.T. Umar does not know anything about Kannur Rajan.

11:20The same thing happened in the film

11:23Avalda Raavgalam.

11:26A.T. Umar composed the original tune

11:29for Avalada Raavgalam.

11:32That too came in the name of A.T. Umar.

11:35But A.T. Umar is not there when the song

11:38comes out.

11:41Shashi says that he is the one

11:44who bought the track of the original

11:47Hindi song from Bombay.

11:50Shashi is the only music director.

11:53Kannan is the recordist.

11:56Aguna Singh is the flutist.

11:59There are small gaps in the original track.

12:02Janakiamma sings the second verse.

12:05There are some flute bits to fill the gap.

12:08A.T. Umar does not even know this.

12:11But he heard the name of a person

12:14who he did not know and

12:17composed a song for both.

12:20I always laugh when I hear this.

12:23A.T. Umar is a good person.

12:26He does not say anything about him.

12:29But there is another song I did for him.

12:32You can ask him about it.

12:35You need to know about it.

12:38He is a very kind person.

12:41He is one of the most innocent

12:44and genuine A.T. Umar.

12:47There is a famous music director

12:50by the name of J. J. Joey.

12:53He composed a song called

12:56Kasthuri Manmezi which

12:59Malayalees will never forget.

13:02One of my biggest sorrows is J. J. Joey.

13:05I am going to see him for the first time

13:08about 15 years.

13:11Before that I have seen him.

13:14He was like a prince.

13:17His dresses, perfumes, watches,

13:20cooling glasses,

13:23cars,

13:26the latest Benz car,

13:29Plymouth car was imported

13:32for the first time in South India by J. J. Joey.

13:35J. J. Joey used to come in a car

13:38with his keyboard and accordion.

13:42I have seen him like a king.

13:45Is there a music director like J. J. Joey

13:48in Malayalam?

13:51Yes, he is the one who introduced me to him.

13:54I didn't learn it from him.

13:57He was like a prince.

14:05When I saw him again,

14:08he was like a man who was

14:11living in a small room

14:14of his palace house.

14:17I have always seen

14:20the same energy

14:23in his face.

14:26I still remember

14:29he asked me to call Bichu

14:32when he was talking.

14:35When I called Bichu,

14:38he was singing a song

14:41called En Swaram Poovidu.

14:44Bichu said,

14:47Ah! Joey!

14:50Bichu said,

14:53I have a lot of tunes in my mind,

14:56but no one wants them.

14:59We have to make old tunes.

15:02He made a tune

15:05and Bichu made a song.

15:08I thought,

15:11this is how they made it.

15:14He said,

15:17Joey is the one

15:20who introduced me to him.

15:23Joey is the one

15:26who introduced me to him.

15:29He said,

15:32I will become a superstar

15:35and you will sing for me.

15:38He made a lot of songs.

15:41One of them was

15:44Kasthuri Manmidi.

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