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AP_VJA_34_08_ERC_2ndday_public_hearing_objections_avb_3052784
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But now, compared to that, the burdens under FPPCA and true-up claims are turning out to
00:27
be several times higher than the impact of tariff hike and even higher than the revenue
00:35
gap determined by the Commission for the financial air concern.
00:40
This is very irony, sir.
00:43
Sir, nobody can expect, sir.
00:46
Though the NAPERC started, it was a united state of Andhra Pradesh, sir.
00:54
But even then, the adjustment charges used to be only up to 150 crores.
01:03
Many times it is 50 crores, sir.
01:06
The second thing, sir, I wanted to put forth before you regarding power purchase agreements,
01:14
sir.
01:15
This is very important, sir.
01:19
Despite entering into PPAs by discounts with high-cost and must-run RG units to purchase
01:28
unwarranted power on long-term basis, even for exceeding their questionable obligations
01:35
under RPPO, obviously, at the behest of government of AP and approvals to the same given by the
01:43
successive ERCs have led to under-utilization of generation capacities of AP GENCO, sir.
01:50
This should be noted, sir.
01:54
It needs no reiteration that to avoid such a lopsided situation and to ensure optimum
02:01
utilization of generation capacities of AP GENCO, a prudent mix of power to be in tune
02:07
with the fluctuating demand curve to the extent technically feasible should be ensured.
02:15
That brings to the fore of the role of the government of AP and the discounts and the
02:20
regulatory role of successive ERCs and they cannot absolve themselves of their part of
02:26
responsibility for this lopsided situation of availability of abnormal quantity of surplus
02:33
power and its breaking down on the one hand, and the purchasing abnormal quantity of quantum
02:42
of power in the market and through exchange at higher prices on the other hand.
02:48
Sir, this is the most important, sir, regarding power purchase agreements.
02:55
Everybody is criticizing on this, sir.
02:59
But nowadays there is another situation, sir, regarding smart meters, sir.
03:05
But wherever we go, now there is a discussion about smart meters.
03:11
The present government headed by Mr. Chandrababu Naidu at the time of elections, many times
03:16
he told that they are not going to put up smart meters.
03:21
Some Telugu nation leaders, they said if the government comes forward or discounts
03:28
come forward to put up smart meters, they asked the people, particularly the consumers,
03:35
to destroy the smart meters.
03:38
At the time of elections, even before elections also, they campaigned like that, sir.
03:46
But now we request the Honorable Commission, not to destroy, but we are asking this, sir.
03:56
We request the Honorable Commission to hold public hearings on the issues of purchases
04:02
of smart and prepaid meters, their installation to agricultural and non-agricultural services
04:08
connections and the procedure that discounts propose to adopt prepaid metering to ensure
04:16
observance of the cardinal principles of transparency, accountability and public participation in
04:23
its regulatory process.
04:25
So we request the Honorable Commission Chairman and Member to conduct a public inquiry on
04:33
these smart meters, sir.
04:36
Sir, regarding the last point I wanted to say, it is the most important point, sir.
04:43
But this is, nowadays it has been discussed not only in Andhra Pradesh, not only in India,
04:51
even the entire world it is a discussion point, sir.
04:54
Point number 52, sir.
04:57
We would like to bring to the notice of the Honorable Commission that the Department of
05:02
Justice of USA in its indictment, crime number 24 CR 433, filed in the United States District
05:10
Court, Eastern District Court of New York, against Gautam S. Adani and others, has pointed
05:19
out that they offered bribes to Indian government officials, they offered bribes to Indian government
05:28
officials to facilitate signing of long-term power supply agreements with discounts of
05:36
some of the states to sell solar power from their plants through Solar Power Corporation
05:42
of India, that is SEKI.
05:46
The indictment pointed out that, sir, kindly noted, sir, the manufacturing-linked project
05:55
was anticipated to generate considerable profits for its energy producers.
06:01
For example, the U.S. issuer anticipated that over approximately 20 years, the manufacturing-linked
06:09
project would generate more than $2 billion in profit after tax, $2 billion in profit
06:19
after tax.
06:20
Sir, it further pointed out that, in furtherance of bribery scheme, the co-conspirators through
06:31
Gautam Adani, Sagar Adani and Vinit S. Jain and others, had offered and promised to Indian
06:39
government officials approximately 2,029 crores of rupees in bribes in exchange for Indian
06:48
government officials causing the state electricity distribution companies to exude PSAs under
06:55
the manufacturing-linked project, which would benefit the Indian energy companies' subsidies
07:02
and the U.S. issuer.
07:04
Sir, in this, among this, approximately 1,750 crores of rupees of the corrupt payments was
07:15
offered to foreign officials causing Andhra Pradesh state electricity distribution companies
07:20
to agree to purchase 7 gigawatts of solar power from SEKI under the manufacturing-linked
07:28
project.
07:29
Sir, never in the history, sir, not only in Andhra Pradesh, sir, nowhere in India, sir,
07:38
it has occurred, sir.
07:41
1,750 crores of rupees they have given as bribes, sir.
07:47
Sir, here I request, sir, it is for purchase of 7,000 megawatts solar power from the plants
07:54
of Adani group in Rajasthan involving these fraudulent transactions.
08:00
The indictment termed them, the indictment termed them the bribery and obstruction scheme,
08:07
the illegal bribery scheme, the securities fraud and wire fraud schemes, the corrupt
08:12
solar project, the corrupt solar project, the fraud scheme, fraudulent transactions,
08:20
securities fraud conspiracy, wire fraud conspiracy, conspiracy to obstruct justice, sir.
08:29
For this, the APERC, Andhra Pradesh Electricity Regulator Commission gave its consent to APDISCOM
08:41
to enter into PCA and finally to this.
08:46
This is very, very unfortunate, sir, very, very unfortunate, sir.
08:52
Not in India, sir, even in America they are discussing about this case, sir.
08:57
But our APERC has given consent for this fraudulent scheme, corrupt scheme, the corrupt
09:07
solar power project.
09:11
Everybody is astonished, sir, without making details of these issues public, without making
09:19
details of the issues to public, without holding public hearings, despite repeated requests
09:26
made by us for the same, we have given consent for it, sir.
09:31
This is very unfortunate, sir.
09:34
After that, myself went to High Court on this issue, sir.
09:40
And also, at that time, MLA, Public Accounts Committee Chairman, Mr. Payyaul K. Shev, he
09:50
is also a Telugadesam leader, presently the Finance Minister of Government of Andhra Pradesh,
09:56
he also, after me, he also filed case against this agreement, sir, in the High Court.
10:03
But nobody knows, after it is, we have filed the case in 2021, even today the High Court
10:16
is not taking up for discussion.
10:20
This APERC, you gave a consent for it.
10:24
So that, I request you, sir, to go through the details.
10:30
This is a crucial time for, on the power generation, particularly our power sector.
10:39
If you withdraw the consent, then only we can save the power sector in Andhra Pradesh,
10:45
sir.
10:46
Otherwise, nobody can save power sector in Andhra Pradesh, sir.
10:53
Nobody can save power sector in Andhra Pradesh, sir, because the agreement is for 25 years.
11:02
Even the Chief Minister of Andhra Pradesh, Mr. Chandrababu Naidu, he gave a presentation
11:09
regarding this, sir.
11:11
Only 1,10,000 crores additional burden will be on electricity consumers.
11:20
So I request the Commission, particularly Chairman, Secretary, Member, to withdraw the
11:27
consent for this, sir, because the truth is different, sir.
11:34
Even the public is also discussing about this Electricity Regulator Commission, sir, though
11:41
even Tamil Nadu government also, they have withdrawn the agreement with Adani, sir.
11:49
So we request the Andhra Pradesh Electricity Regulator Commission, this is the right opportunity
11:55
for you.
11:56
It is a historic opportunity for you to withdraw the consent by the APRC, sir, because to save
12:05
the power sector, it is essential, sir.
12:09
Many things we can discuss, we can solve it, no problem, sir.
12:14
Anyway, lastly, I wanted to say about the public opinion about our Regulatory Commission,
12:20
sir.
12:21
The regulatory role of the Commission in protecting larger consumer interest is turning out to
12:32
be marginal.
12:35
It is turning out to be marginal and that it is facilitating imposition of more and
12:41
more burdens on the consumers, sir.
12:45
I am very sorry, sir, this is the public opinion, sir.
12:50
So a historic opportunity has come to you, sir, to save the power sector in Andhra Pradesh.
12:59
Nobody is talking about this, sir, but in India there is a new trend, sir, nobody is
13:06
prepared to speak against Adani.
13:10
Even the judiciary, they are unable to speak against Adani, the official, they are unable
13:15
to speak against Adani, even the chief minister at the time of assembly session, he cannot
13:21
utter a word against Adani.
13:24
This is very unfortunate situation prevailing in India, sir.
13:28
So I request the Commission, sir, to take this opportunity to save the sector, this
13:35
power sector in Andhra Pradesh, sir.
13:38
Even anyway, lastly, I am congratulating the people who are working power sector, the contact
13:46
labour, engineers and other people, even the officials, they are working hard.
13:53
One should appreciate their efforts.
13:56
But to save power sector, first and foremost thing, on this juncture, to cancel all the
14:04
agreements between Sikhi and this country, sir.
14:08
Thank you, sir.
15:26
Questioner 1 тАУ Good morning to all of you.
15:33
I am from Grasim Industries and we are having our chloralkali plant at Palbhadrapuram, East
15:39
Godavari.
15:40
Sir, I am requesting, as chloralkali industries, as per Bureau of Energy is covered under power
15:50
intensive industry.
15:52
But in power tariff, there are separate rates for ferroalloy industry because they are power
15:58
intensive.
15:59
As we are also power intensive, so we should also be covered under that.
16:04
Because power is, pardon, what is our industry, industry, chloralkali, ferroalloy, ferroalloy.
16:16
Because chloralkali, cost of production, power cost is 70% part of that.
16:22
So we request you, sir, this, our request should be considered while finalising your
16:29
final tariff order.
16:31
Last year we also raised this point and last year comments was that it is under purview
16:36
of APRC but still we have not received any comment from your side, sir.
16:41
Which one, which one you need?
16:45
Which one, sir?
16:46
Which clarification you want?
16:49
First clarification about considering power intensive chloralkali industry.
16:56
Okay, I will address it, yeah, okay, thank you.
17:01
And apart from that, FPPC charges is also very high, sir.
17:09
And we are losing approx 7 to 8 crore on account of FPPC charges.
17:16
And one more, FPPC charges, we are getting true order after completion of year.
17:22
So actually if it is on monthly basis or quarterly basis, so that we can also recover from our
17:28
customer.
17:29
But we are not able to recover from our customer because true order after finalisation of year.
17:38
And one more request, sir.
17:41
In some states, instead of bank deposit, they are considering bank guarantee for deposit.
17:49
And we are having approx 18 crore for deposit.
17:52
So we are losing and it blocks our working capital also.
17:58
And one more objection, sir, peak hour rate and high grid demand should be same because
18:06
for the 6 month it is 1 rupees 1.5 and for 6 month it is 1 rupees.
18:12
So in totality, sir, if I see power intensive, FPPCA and deposit on account of, it is approx
18:20
20 crore we are losing on account of power.
18:24
So we request, sir, while finalising tariff, please consider our.
18:29
Okay, thank you.
18:31
One more, sir, if you consider our, suppose if you are raising bill and you are giving
18:41
option to pay early payment, so that we can get some discount also, Odisha state is giving
18:48
this type of discount industry.
18:50
You want to allow some rebate?
18:52
Yes, sir.
18:53
This is our submission, sir.
18:56
Okay, thank you.
18:57
Thank you, sir.
18:58
Dinesh Reddy, South Central Railway, Senior Divisional Electrical Engineer.
19:12
I am Dinesh Reddy, Senior Divisional Electrical Engineer representing South Central Railway
19:16
from Indian Airways.
19:19
So these are my objections, sir.
19:22
So brief, as you already know, Indian Airways is the largest and prime public-powered freight
19:27
transport of the nation at economic prices.
19:31
We play a vital role in economical and financial growth of the country.
19:35
As per GOA policy, the railway network over Indian Airways is being electrified under
19:39
Mission 100% electrification to enrich carbon-free transportation and reduce oil import burden.
19:45
So we are going for 100% electrification of all the lines.
19:48
Electric traction is operationally efficient system, promotes local industries development,
19:53
energy efficient and eco-friendly system, reducing carbon footprint and protection of
19:58
the environment.
19:59
Railways operates around the clock with 30% load factor, contributing to maintain and
20:05
increase grid stability.
20:06
Railways is a bulk consumer of electrical energy and pays energy bills very promptly.
20:13
And briefly, sir, South Central Railway, our part is that Indian Airways is availing power
20:21
through 62 substations, sir, of which SCR 45 substations, East Coast Railway 12 substations.
20:27
One minute, one minute.
20:28
Please silence, please.
20:30
Silence, please.
20:36
Okay, go ahead.
20:38
We are availing power through 62 substations, sir, in which SCR, which is our zone, takes
20:45
from 45 substations, East Coast Railway 12 substations, Southern Railway 2 substations
20:49
and South Western Railway 3 substations from state of Andhra Pradesh, sir.
20:52
Projected traction energy consumption for last year is 2,618 MU units, sir, with
20:58
contributed of 883 MVA and projected transfer of 2,773 crores, sir.
21:04
And last year we paid around 999 crores, sir.
21:07
In the retail tariff order of last year, sir, only railway electrification charges were
21:11
increased, sir, by 1 rupee, and for which other LTSD consumers of all types were retained,
21:19
sir, with a national burden of approximately 270 crores.
21:23
So last year only railway has been increased on tariff order, sir, compared to other LTSD
21:28
consumers, sir.
21:29
High traction tariffs in state of Andhra Pradesh has become non-viable for upcoming
21:33
electrification projects and further upgradation works state of Andhra Pradesh, sir.
21:37
Inner railways is availing traction power through open access in 12 states, sir, with
21:42
an average of 6.14 rupees, but in Andhra Pradesh state, railways is paying an average rate
21:47
of 7.89 rupees, sir, which is almost 1.7 rupees more than the other corresponding average,
21:54
and affecting the other, affecting the operation cost of railways, sir.
21:57
High tariff for railway traction is forcing railways to explore other alternatives to
22:02
avail power through other bilateral agreements to reduce the cost of energy building.
22:10
In this connection, sir, we pray that, we pray to commission that existing tariff under
22:15
category HD4 railway traction is to be reduced and fixed reasonably in Andhra Pradesh state
22:21
to avoid high operating cost and burden on general public and to make electrification
22:25
and upgradation works more viable, sir.
22:29
Additive traction tariff in line with open access states or in line with states of Odisha
22:34
and Telangana may be considered, sir.
22:36
We find IAP is charging more compared to other states, sir.
22:39
Reasonable rate on prompt payment of energy bills may be considered, sir.
22:44
You know, example, in Odisha, for prompt payment of bills, they give rebate, sir.
22:49
So, in same lines, we also expect rebate of 1% from the monthly bills if you pay promptly
22:54
the bills, sir.
22:55
Railway may be considered for exemption from burden of cross-subsidy surcharge by virtue
22:59
of provisions of national tariff policy issued by MOP, sir.
23:03
Honorable commission is pleaded to consider railway's objection and requested to reduce
23:07
the existing tariff scheduled for railway traction as railway is bulk consumer and prompt
23:11
payer of energy bills.
23:13
Thank you, sir.
23:14
This is our work.
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