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James Mangold Reveals Why He Wanted to Write for 'A Complete Unknown' | THR Video
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1/6/2025
During The Hollywood Reporter Writers Roundtable, James Mangold reveals what intrigued him the most when deciding to write for 'A Complete Unknown.' Plus, he shares Bob Dylan's reaction when he first read his writing.
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Well, I love Bob Dylan, but it wasn't that that isn't good enough reason to make a movie. In fact, it's a terrible one
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But I loved this the idea of
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framing a
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Movie within this story this moment. I mean because one of the you know, I
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Make I've made a lot of different kinds of movies and people in conversations like this use all sorts of kind of genre
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Descriptions like biopic would be one and it's like well, it's not really a genre really
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I mean if you're being scientific you is a is a movie about Jesse James a biopic or a Western
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Is a is a movie about if I made serpico
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Is that a cop movie or a biopic meaning it's a kind of bullshit description that doesn't at all describe
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What's actually functioning in the narrative or what context or vernacular the story is being told in it just describes in a kind of media
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Framing way true story based on some reality, which is frankly true for most of our fucking movies anyway
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so the
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What was intriguing to me was
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Was getting back to the world of making a movie about an artist again
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in a time without cell phones, which is another really wonderful thing and and
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and
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that the music was powerful and that when I
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Learned about this book and this project coming together. It also already came
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with Bob and his music and I and and so that
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one of the battles because I've tried to do this over the years before with in a couple of places and
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That March to kind of get all those folks together
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For a journey is really hard and and so that part was amazing
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And then the fact that this story was a story
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But the real palpable thing was when I
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The searchlight guys talked to me about acquiring this book and these existing materials on it
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when I was taking Ford Ferrari to Telluride it was on a plane with them and
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I literally took what they had and I didn't even they didn't offer it and I had no deal
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But I just started writing the movie in
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Colorado and and and then I was writing the movie in Toronto and by the time and then Timmy
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Met me in Toronto when the movie was premiering there, which is this is a period of like what is Toronto Telluride 10 days apart?
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so the and and the thing came together just
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through my
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Absolute conviction that I had to do this and even if they didn't want me
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And what I'd be and the fact that the writing was coming so fast
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Mainly because I saw that
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That what existed the writing that that existed on it while really good was avoiding most of the really juicy stuff
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Which I found out was because it was an edict from from the Dillon camp
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That this had to be strictly about the music nothing else and I didn't pay attention to that. I didn't even have a deal
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I just wrote about everything else and the music shit and the and
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Maybe this is too long a story
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But then the I did make a deal I did but the script flew out of me and then we were gonna just make it
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we had a window with Timmy and this is 2019 and then Kovat hit and
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and
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When Kovat but we were also having a moment where where?
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Bob's manager and others were concerned where I had gone and
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With the script and when Kovat hit Bob's tour was canceled and
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Apparently he asked his manager. Let me read this thing that you're worried about and he liked it
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and that kind of in the interim changed everything and what happened over the Kovat period was I had a series of meetings with him and
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and talked about what I was doing and where I was going and
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And this long story gets the point of what I thought was, you know when I first sat down with Bob
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I mean one of the first things he said was like I really like that movie Copland and that was like
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And he knew it like he knew the movie like and you're talking about a movie that came out in 1997 and
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and
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But then he turned to me at that moment like we all do when we get down to the subject and he goes
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so what's this movie about and
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It was that question you're asking all of us and I actually I'd written furiously
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But I hadn't ever thought about this kind of thesis question and in the moment alone in his coffee shop with him. I
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said
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It's about a guy who's choking to death in
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Minnesota and
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Has to escape and
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runs away and
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Reinvents himself
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Leaves behind all his family and friends finds new ones
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Becomes wildly successful as he blossoms as an artist
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And starts choking to death and runs away from all his family and friends and
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he smiled and
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there was a kind and and
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The but to me it was also a kind of breakthrough moment with him of me knowing the kind of thing
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You need to know as a writer
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But you also need to know as a director
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Every day when you're on set because shit will throw you off and you have to keep reminding yourself. What's my story?
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and and and and when you don't know that that's when you really when your DP is suggesting shooting through a
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Christmas ornament
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No for rock videos for rock videos for German expressionist bands, it's great idea, but the but anyway, whatever that's that's my little
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