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સપ્તક સંગીત સમારોહ દિવસ 4: કલા જગતના બે સ્વર્ગીય દિગ્ગજોને સ્વરાંજલિ અર્પણ કરાઈ, જાણો આજની બેઠકોમાં કોણ રંગ જમાવશે...
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1/6/2025
સપ્તક સંગીત મહોત્સવના ચોથા દિવસે કલા જગતના બે સ્વર્ગીય દિગ્ગજોનો પોતાની કળા દ્વારા સ્વરાંજલિ અર્પાઈ. જુઓ સપ્તકના ચોથા દિવસની મહત્વની ઝલક...
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Pundit Rajanji and Pundit Sajjanji's duo in Indian classical music is world-famous.
00:06
And they have elevated the tradition of Indian classical music in India and the world.
00:13
And with us is Pundit Rajanji, Sajjan Mishraji.
00:18
Rajanji is not among us.
00:20
Okay.
00:21
So, Pundit Rajan Mishraji was our elder brother.
00:24
Pundit Rajan Mishraji and Pundit Sajjan Mishraji are still known as Rajanji and Sajjanji.
00:35
We are two bodies and one soul.
00:38
This is how we were recognized all over the world.
00:42
So, our elder brother, Pundit Rajan Mishraji, died of COVID-19 in 2021.
00:48
And people still recognize us as Rajan, Sajjan and Mishra.
00:54
This is a great thing.
00:56
It is God's grace that we got our names and music together.
01:05
So, it is very sad to lose them.
01:08
But I am doing a program now and I am sitting with my son.
01:14
His name is Swaransh Mishra.
01:16
Rajanji has two sons, Ritesh and Rajneesh.
01:20
They are also doing well.
01:22
So, I hope that our tradition will continue.
01:26
Pundit Sajjanji, Banaras Gharana has always been your favorite.
01:31
You have made it known all over the world.
01:35
So, what is special about it and what are the challenges?
01:37
Banaras Gharana is a very ancient Gharana.
01:43
The concept of Gharana is 200-250 years old.
01:46
But in Banaras, it is said that it is the city of Mahadev.
01:51
And all the notes are derived from Vishwanath's Damru.
01:56
So, there are temples in Banaras, Kashi.
02:02
Since ancient times, music has been performed there.
02:09
And we are very fortunate that we were born in Banaras.
02:16
In our home, there is a tradition of music of 350 years.
02:21
Which is continuous.
02:24
And our children are also following that tradition.
02:28
And the biggest thing about the singers of Banaras Gharana was
02:32
Dhurpad, Dhammar, Khayal, Tappa, Thumri, Kajri, Chaiti.
02:38
All the traditions in classical music.
02:41
All of them are taught to sing.
02:44
So, according to that, our canvas becomes very big.
02:48
And the second biggest specialty is that it is a single Gharana.
02:52
Where there is a tradition of Gayan, Vadan, and Nrit.
02:56
So, in this regard, Banaras is a little different from other places.
03:02
Pandit Sajjanji, you have a strong connection with Ahmedabad and Manju Bain Parivar.
03:07
A few memories of Ahmedabad.
03:10
We have a lot of memories related to Ahmedabad.
03:15
We have been coming to Ahmedabad since 1972.
03:18
And with the love of Nandan Bhai Mehtaji, he was our elder brother.
03:24
So, we always used to stay at his house in Shivshadan.
03:29
And we have got the opportunity to spend time here for months.
03:35
Nandan Bhai was designing a car for us.
03:39
So, we stayed there for a month.
03:41
Then we used to stay there for 10-15 days.
03:43
So, there are so many memories.
03:46
If we start sharing them, it is possible that in 3-4 hours I will be talking about the same topic.
03:52
Pandit Sajjanji, in Gujarati breakfast, you like Fafda and its chutney a lot.
03:59
Yes, I like Gujarati breakfast a lot.
04:03
And I especially like the hot Fafda chutney.
04:10
Nandan Bhai also liked it a lot.
04:12
So, he used to order it often.
04:14
Jalebi is also very popular here.
04:16
And the most important thing about Gujarati food is that it is very nutritious.
04:21
It is a very healthy food.
04:23
So, when we come here, we also enjoy Gujarati food.
04:29
Sir, there is a lot of discussion that the new music, the filmy music, will dominate Indian music.
04:37
So, what do you think, how will Indian classical music face its challenges?
04:43
You see, Indian classical music has been going on for thousands of years.
04:51
Raag Malkos, Raag Bhairav.
04:54
This tradition has been going on for thousands of years.
04:59
Thousands of singers have sung and passed away.
05:03
But that Raag is still standing in its place.
05:05
And as far as filmy music is concerned,
05:08
there are people who love filmy music.
05:11
There are people who love our classical music.
05:14
And we have no comparison with them.
05:17
We should not even compare.
05:19
And every music is beautiful in itself.
05:22
But our classical music releases stress.
05:26
This is the difference.
05:28
And it does not force a person to move.
05:31
It calms him down.
05:33
And his heart begins to beat.
05:36
This is the difference between our music and other music.
05:41
Sir, these new people, new generations,
05:44
what do they want to learn in classical music?
05:47
And what do they get?
05:49
See, classical music is the base.
05:51
There are people who learn classical music through film music.
05:54
Like Lata ji, Asha ji, Mohammad Rafi sahib, Kishore ji, Manna Dey ji.
05:59
These people have learnt classical music.
06:03
And they have maintained their knowledge for so many years.
06:08
I was watching an interview with Asha ji.
06:12
She still practices classical music for an hour daily.
06:17
Classical music is new. It is a foundation.
06:20
If your foundation is good, you can build any type of building on it.
06:26
Classical music is the base.
06:29
You have to learn it.
06:31
If you want to make a long lasting life,
06:36
then you have to learn classical music.
06:38
And today's youth,
06:40
see, it has been going on for 45 years.
06:43
See, 50% of the youth are connected to classical music.
06:49
There is Sawai Gandharva in Pune.
06:52
15,000-17,000 people come to buy tickets.
06:56
Even in that you will find 50% youth.
06:59
So our youth is becoming aware of music.
07:03
And they are getting happiness.
07:05
Their stress is getting relieved.
07:07
So we feel that our music is very safe.
07:11
We don't need to be afraid of any music.
07:14
The reels that have come in social media,
07:16
our span has also shortened.
07:19
So that is also a problem,
07:21
that it is a new opportunity to reach people.
07:24
See, the crowd in the fair,
07:30
the human nature of running after the crowd,
07:35
some people have that interest,
07:37
they make reels and put it in.
07:39
But we are of such a time,
07:42
that we are not interested in all these things.
07:45
We are interested in our worship.
07:47
If we do music, it becomes worship.
07:49
It becomes a prayer.
07:51
Not that we are doing meditation.
07:53
This is a matter of spirituality.
07:55
It should be promoted in a spiritual way.
07:58
And in that, people like this,
08:01
who come to the fair,
08:03
if they understand,
08:05
then they connect with our music.
08:08
And those who don't like it,
08:11
they get scattered.
08:13
So we don't have anything to do with it.
08:15
Our first condition is,
08:17
how can we make the God sitting inside us,
08:19
feel relieved by our music.
08:23
So we adorn it,
08:25
we pray for it.
08:27
So prayer is our music.
08:29
Pani Sajanji, you have been associated with Gujarat for a long time.
08:34
Have you ever sung a song in Gujarat?
08:40
No, we have not sung a Gujarati song.
08:43
But we have many students in Gujarat,
08:46
who are doing well.
08:48
Viraj Amar has performed yesterday.
08:50
And I like Gujarati music.
08:56
Especially folk music.
08:58
I like it a lot.
09:00
And see, in every music,
09:05
where there is calmness,
09:07
where you get peace,
09:09
that attracts.
09:10
Whether it is jazz,
09:12
or philharmonic orchestra,
09:15
or western classic,
09:18
I like everything.
09:20
I listen to Beethoven,
09:22
I listen to Kenny G,
09:24
I listen to Bach,
09:26
I listen to Mozart.
09:28
Whatever music is there,
09:30
I like it.
09:32
Pani Sajanji, Gujarati Garba
09:34
is famous all over the world.
09:36
Narsi Mehta's bhajan is famous.
09:38
What do you like about Gujarati music?
09:40
I like Garba,
09:42
Narsi Mehta's bhajan is also very good.
09:44
We have also sung Vaishnojan.
09:47
And see, music is music.
09:51
In respect,
09:53
I like everything.
09:55
In Navratri, we have also gone to see Garba.
09:59
So I like it a lot.
10:01
It is done in a very traditional way.
10:03
So,
10:05
I enjoy every music.
10:08
So this was Pandit Sajanji,
10:11
who says that
10:13
we enjoy every music.
10:15
And we also enjoy
10:17
our music, our singing.
10:19
With cameraman Mukesh Jodia,
10:21
Parijit Dev, ETV Bharat, Ahmedabad.
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