Patriots win?! Jerod Mayo out as HC. Pats drop from 1 to 4 in draft.

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Patriots win?! Jerod Mayo out as HC. Pats drop from 1 to 4 in draft. What was your instant reaction to the win and Mayo news?

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00:00Fairly or unfairly, and it will never be again, a Mayo Monday on this show, as approximately

00:09one hour after a Patriots win yesterday, the New England Patriots call Gerard Mayo's career

00:17as a head coach one and done.

00:22I know what that's like, Mayo.

00:25One and done.

00:26Yeah, that's true.

00:27He only had one go at it in Brockton, unfortunately.

00:31I think he knew at the press conference after.

00:34His post game press conference, the way he was talking to the media, he knew it was over.

00:39That's interesting.

00:40I mean, when do you think he found out?

00:42I mean, listen, the conspiracy theories are big on this, but is it possible that he went

00:50out and won that game and screwed up the, the, uh, draft potential of the New England

00:56Patriots as a big, uh, FU in the direction of Robert Kraft.

01:00Cause he knew what was coming.

01:01No.

01:02Cause Robert would be stupid to say that to him knowing he's going to fire this guy.

01:06Well, I think Curtis made this point, I think on social media yesterday, Curtis, good morning.

01:10Hello.

01:11Hi Greg.

01:12Good to see you.

01:13Courtney.

01:14Why, if you're getting rid of him, why is he coaching that football game?

01:18Which I thought was a great question that you asked yesterday.

01:21It doesn't make any sense, whatever you think we can get, I'm sure we will, whether it was

01:25right to be fired, all that you do not allow someone the keys to a car with that much on

01:33the line.

01:34And it's delicate.

01:35Wiggy's right.

01:36You're never going to tell people you're losing on purpose, but everybody kind of knows it.

01:41And to have Gerard Mayo on the sideline, it'd be one thing if it was reported late last

01:46night and then they have the statement today.

01:48And I know this is stupid and small, but they wrote that statement on Monday.

01:54There's no way the game ends with as litigious as these organizations are, that they would

02:00have that approved ready for print within an hour of the final bell of that game.

02:05So, you know, you're going to fire them and you don't take them off the sideline.

02:10Yeah.

02:11And to win that game.

02:13I mean, we were, we were there yesterday.

02:16What a game.

02:17What was your favorite part?

02:18Honestly, it reminded me when it came to the, when it came to the crowd that was there,

02:23it reminded me of a pandemic game.

02:25I was a big fan of the tumbleweeds.

02:30I felt like I saw some cardboard cutouts watching that game in this, in the, but, but to win

02:36that game, you set the franchise back another five years.

02:42It pisses me off.

02:44There's no reason why you win that football game.

02:47And then I, I mean, you make a great point, Courtney.

02:50I don't know.

02:51He was, Gerard Mayo was different in that post game press conference than he's been.

02:58And I, I, I guess maybe he had an inkling of what was coming or maybe he got the dreaded

03:04let's meet immediately an hour after the game as opposed to let's meet on Monday.

03:12Because it would be stupid for Robert to even keep that guy there just in case he tries

03:17to spite you going out the door, because there's situations in that game.

03:22It's fourth down.

03:23You go for it knowing that you're not really trying to win the football game and you're

03:27giving your team, you know, you're putting your team in a worse situation on winning

03:32when you're going for it on fourth down.

03:33If you got the ball at midfield rather than kick field goals or something like that.

03:36Do you think they issued the, do you think the crafts issued the code red and told them

03:40to lose that football game?

03:42No, it's unstated.

03:44You don't even whisper that you don't even have to say it's, I mean, other than Jelani

03:47Tavai, everybody knew, by the way, good start, benched first ever benching by me.

03:53I love it.

03:54Uh, no, but, uh, the, um, if you're going to do that, everybody knows what's at stake.

04:01You don't verbalize it.

04:02You don't because that's the only way you get in trouble.

04:04Everybody on the, in the Patriots organization knew what they had to do and they've been

04:10really good at it.

04:12Lose the game.

04:13They did it to a certain extent because you started, you basically played Joe Milton,

04:19your third string quarterback, 99% of the game.

04:22So you were trying to lose the game, right?

04:25Well, you should have started over Jacoby for set the beginning of the season.

04:29No, no, no.

04:30But what I'm saying is when you start a third string quarterback who hasn't played all year

04:33long, we were all saying this going into the game, start Joe Milton, because if you do,

04:40that looks like you're tanking.

04:42And unfortunately he just happened to have a really good game.

04:46And the other thing you could control is rather than the kick, the field goals, you can maybe

04:50go for it or on fourth down, or you could be like, all right, it's third and six, third

04:55and five rather than throw the ball, let's run the ball.

04:58And that gives us a better chance of getting stopped.

05:01There were things that they could have done even more so to lose the game.

05:05But they, by them starting Joe Milton was them telling us, all right, we're trying to

05:10lose.

05:11But don't you think if you're Joe Milton, you want to get a good tape out there.

05:14You're a third string quarterback.

05:15You want to make sure people know that you can play.

05:17So I actually think playing Joe Milton, I don't care if there was a memo sent out to

05:21the entire locker room saying, throw this game.

05:23If I'm Joe Milton, I'm saying F you guys, I'm not throwing this game.

05:26I'm going to play my ass off.

05:27Yeah.

05:28But the players, they're not telling the players throw the game.

05:31The players will go out there and they're auditioning and trying to put good tape on.

05:35I think you had a better chance to lose it with Jacoby Brissett out there than Joe Milton.

05:39Yeah.

05:40But nobody was saying, play Jacoby Brissett.

05:42Everybody was saying, play Joe Milton.

05:44What if they traded for Mac late in the year would have been too obvious what they were

05:47trying to do?

05:49Young Thunder will speak at one o'clock today.

05:54And Curtis, what would you guess finally put him over the edge was Jelani to buy?

06:00No, I'm not kidding.

06:02You think it was on this show?

06:03Friday?

06:04A thousand percent.

06:06I think Ken's been right.

06:07When he walked in here and he goes back with the bang, you just sealed it for Mayo.

06:13And he was spot on that, that their reaction as an organization to Tavai tells you everything

06:21you need to know.

06:22Yeah.

06:23All the things that Mayo was supposed to be good at, he failed and that's why he doesn't

06:28have a job.

06:29And I don't want to hear about fairness.

06:31Is Gerard Mayo the most qualified coach when he was hired?

06:35Probably not.

06:36No.

06:37So then don't bitch about the fact that it wasn't fair.

06:39It's not fair.

06:40It's a business.

06:41Yeah, correct.

06:42I mean, if you're, and you know, and no disrespect to Gerard Mayo because he's a great guy and

06:48it was a lot of fun to interview him and it was a lot of fun to hear him come and walk

06:53things back that he said on this show or elsewhere.

06:56So, um, but that being said, if you're going to be meeting secretly with your boss's boss

07:03and trying to get your boss's job, then you have to understand the kind of people that

07:08you're dealing with.

07:09I mean, I would, one could assume that maybe even over the last few weeks, Robert Kraft

07:15was meeting with Mike Vrabel precisely behind Gerard Mayo's back about Gerard Mayo's job.

07:21I would think that that is highly likely.

07:23How you get them is how you lose them, right?

07:27But they, it's, it's one of the true laws of, of romance.

07:32What they do with you is what they are eventually going to do to you.

07:37I mean, that's the way it goes.

07:38I think, I think it was, it was Vrabel meeting with the jets.

07:41I think that was the final straw.

07:42I think once, once they saw all those reports, they said, all right, we got to make a change

07:47and we got to do it quick.

07:48Well, yeah, you don't want, if you want Mike Vrabel, you don't want him coaching in the

07:51division, obviously.

07:52And he's a new England Patriot and a Patriot for life and you want to, so, I mean, I think

07:58that was a factor.

07:59Gerard should have knew as somebody who's been in the NFL, who's been around, you should

08:05know from jump street, you don't trust anybody, no matter what they say, no matter how much

08:10smoke they blow up your ass, no matter how cute of a nicknames you got, everybody is

08:16expendable.

08:17They did it to Brady.

08:18They did it to Belichick.

08:20They'll do it to you.

08:22Vrabel probably knows coming in.

08:23Yeah.

08:24You might be telling me all these things craft, but I still got to keep, I still got to sleep

08:28with one eye open.

08:30That is the, that's something that, you know, in this business.

08:33And so I think Gerard probably looked at it and like, you know, I will, I don't expect

08:40it, but if it happened, I get it because of the performance, I think Gerard's probably

08:44more upset because he feels like you made me the guy without giving me a fair hand to

08:52fight with.

08:53Well, yeah, I think they sold them a bill of goods and I will, I will agree with that.

08:58And, and, uh, that's unfortunate, but, and I have a nugget that I was told I couldn't

09:03share by someone, but now that Mayo's gone, I feel like I can say, okay, yeah.

09:09He hasn't spoken to Bill Belichick since October of last season.

09:16So that's surprising though.

09:18So there, there was a chasm between those two.

09:23And it was said to me that he felt bad for Mayo in that a guy that begged Mayo to be

09:28a coach in the NFL in Bill Belichick felt that rightfully so, or wrongly, I don't know

09:33what happened that Mayo had gone behind his back and Bill Belichick locked him out from

09:39October of last season until today.

09:41But you would do the same thing.

09:42Yeah.

09:43Yeah.

09:44You would do the same thing if somebody is behind your back trying to get your job.

09:47That's what they did to, uh, Mac Jones.

09:49Somebody that you feel like you gave a leg up and then turns around and stabs you in

09:54the back.

09:55Judas style.

09:56Yeah.

09:57Well, I mean, like, uh, if you said that they're doing this with Vrabel, why would Vrabel know

10:03or, or want this job?

10:07He wants this job.

10:09Mike Vrabel wants this job.

10:10I might be better.

10:11How can you look at Drake May and the, and the money that they have to spend in free

10:14agency and the fourth pick, not the, not the first pick, but the fourth and not want this

10:19job.

10:20Like I think maybe Ben Johnson doesn't want this job and we can talk about that, but I,

10:25I wouldn't want this job.

10:26You wouldn't want this.

10:27I still think it's a great job.

10:29No, I don't.

10:30Not if Elliot Wolfe's still in charge.

10:31Or is it a better job than going to the Jets?

10:33Or I think he's supposed to meet with the bears on Wednesday.

10:36Yeah.

10:37Yes.

10:38See, he doesn't have a relationship with those owners.

10:43So he's going to come in and he might, it doesn't, don't the crafts now look like they

10:49can't be trusted if you're, if you're a coach.

10:53But you think now they look like that?

10:55I mean, this was their guy that they handpicked five years ago and he's one and done.

11:00Do you think Tom Brady felt like he could trust the crafts at the end?

11:04Do I think Brady felt?

11:05Yeah, he probably felt like, I don't think he does.

11:08I don't think he did.

11:09He was standing there and telling you, go ask Mr.

11:10Craft.

11:11Why he wasn't being paid.

11:12Right.

11:13I think he felt the same way that, that, that others have felt, which is that they will,

11:17that they will.

11:18Yes.

11:19That's what I'm saying.

11:20You said, you said now, now Mike Rabel may understand that the crafts can't be trusted.

11:27I feel like there has been a trust factor issue I'm sure for quite some time.

11:32Well, I'm talking about for him personally with potentially being the next head coach,

11:38he might look at it and go, okay, everything that they did to Brady, Belichick, now Mayo.

11:44I don't know.

11:45I don't know if I can necessarily trust the crafts.

11:49There wouldn't be leaks that he wants this job because if he was putting it out there,

11:52he knows that they would have to fire Mayo in order to get him.

11:55So could he be just using that for leverage?

11:57Isn't that what everybody does?

11:59They leak stuff out there for leverage.

12:00I think he wants.

12:01I think he wants.

12:02I think he wants.

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