Is 190 million-pound case's verdict going to be in Imran Khan's favor?

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00:00Hassan, there is a common point that is being debated in Islamabad.

00:05On 6th January, the decision of 190 million will be made.

00:10The decision was to be made earlier, but then it was deferred.

00:14First of all, tell me, is that decision being made on 6th January?

00:18Because that will tell us.

00:20Obviously, the PTI people say that the government is very serious with us.

00:24So, let me hear that question first.

00:26So, how much impact will the decision of 190 million have on the success or failure of the negotiations?

00:36What do you think? What is the news, what is the analysis, what is the comment?

00:40Look, I am telling you this promise many times before,

00:43that it is at least impossible for me to predict about this judge.

00:48I cannot predict what decision this judge will give.

00:51And I am also telling you that this decision is not in the hands of the government.

00:55It can also be a favor to Mr. Imran Khan.

00:58If he sees any weakness in all these cases,

01:02he can also call Mr. Imran Khan a favor.

01:05And this will not be a favor to the government on Mr. Imran Khan,

01:08because he will really be a favor in that case.

01:11And he can also give a punishment.

01:13This judge is very unpredictable.

01:15There is no pressure from anyone on him, nor from the establishment,

01:19but there are some such judges.

01:21There are few these days, but there is one.

01:24So the question is that if the government clubs this,

01:29and supposedly thinks that Mr. Imran Khan is a big shot,

01:32and he thinks that he is the government's CBM,

01:34then it will be the mistake of the opposition party.

01:37And if they think that they will be punished,

01:39and if they think that this is done by the government,

01:41then this will also be their mistake.

01:43I am telling you very loudly and clearly.

01:45I am expressing this to you again and again.

01:47As far as the negotiations are concerned,

01:50you can see the seriousness of the government,

01:53and the seriousness of the opposition.

01:56But the matter is that I fear that the international chapter of justice for Pakistan,

02:02or Mr. Jibran Ilyas who is sitting outside,

02:04will hijack these negotiations.

02:06You can see at night, the kind of tweets they have made

02:09from Imran Khan's Twitter handle,

02:11they are saying that they are being suggested

02:14to shift to Benigala.

02:16We have been hearing for a year that

02:19if Imran Khan was being proposed to leave,

02:22then why were you making these demands for a year?

02:24First of all,

02:26the demands that you were making earlier,

02:28either that is a lie,

02:30or the tweets that you have made at night

02:32from Imran Khan's Twitter handle, that is wrong.

02:34But let me complete this first.

02:36The second thing is that these people are not spoilers.

02:39These people who are sitting are serious people,

02:41and they are present in Pakistan.

02:43But those people,

02:45who even Mr. Fawad Chaudhary is saying

02:47that if you want to reduce the distance

02:49between the establishment and the chapter of justice,

02:52then Imran Khan's Twitter handle,

02:54or PTA official's Twitter handle,

02:56both these handles should be brought to Pakistan.

02:58Because those people,

03:00I don't know in whose hands these people are made,

03:02they are spoiling from there,

03:03they are making weird kinds of tweets.

03:05Now the government,

03:07and the trust deficit between them is so much,

03:09that even serious people are sitting.

03:11They are saying that until the

03:13Charter of Demands doesn't come,

03:15we will not move forward.

03:17So this gentleman is tweeting from there

03:19that we are being offered to shift to Bani Gala.

03:21That is, you see,

03:23if the government is not trusting the

03:25declarations of the government,

03:27they are saying that they will not stand on one thing,

03:29you first give us in writing,

03:31then we will move forward.

03:33So there they are saying that there is some

03:35hidden agenda being sold there.

03:37Imran Khan sir, I will raise my voice with him.

03:39Hassan, your point has come.

03:41Look, the matter is that both sides are sitting.

03:43Bani PTI is present in the jail.

03:45Regarding the meeting with them,

03:47the government is saying that

03:49we will not interfere.

03:51Therefore, I was listening to Irfan Siddiqui yesterday,

03:53he was also saying that

03:55we have spoken in some television program,

03:57we have spoken to some social media,

03:59we will not even respond to it.

04:01So we will restrict ourselves to whatever happened inside the committee.

04:03So I do not buy this argument

04:05that someone will be spoiled from outside.

04:07Obviously,

04:09their Bani is sitting here,

04:11he is saying that I did not agree to this.

04:13How will the matter move forward?

04:15There will be no problem with the government.

04:17The problem will be with the PTI's

04:19discussion team.

04:21They come under the pressure of Ali bin Ghandapur.

04:23Hazrat Farooq is saying that

04:25Ali bin Ghandapur is coming forward as a leader.

04:27So Ali bin Ghandapur,

04:29what do you think about the discussions?

04:31Listen.

04:33Do you think that these discussions

04:35will lead to a decision?

04:37Look, Imran Khan sir has clearly said

04:39that these discussions are for Pakistan,

04:41for the development of Pakistan,

04:43and for stability.

04:45The attitude of the government,

04:47which you saw today,

04:49that it has entered a positive phase.

04:51Look, when there is a committee for discussions,

04:53then the attitude is such that

04:55they want to solve the problem.

04:57Absolutely right.

04:59When they are sitting,

05:01they are sitting for a solution.

05:03Now Ali bin Ghandapur is saying

05:05that the beatings that we get,

05:07they have not happened,

05:09nor will they happen.

05:11Therefore, the discussions will be based on this.

05:13Do you think that the two demands

05:15will be accepted by the government?

05:17Look, it depends on how I can say this.

05:19But I hope that Imran Khan sir

05:21has started this for Pakistan

05:23with determination and determination.

05:25So they should understand this.

05:27Because with the force of the stick,

05:29with the force of power,

05:31neither the victory of Tehrik-e-Ishaa

05:33nor the acceptance of Imran Khan

05:35can be achieved peacefully.

05:37Viewers, there was a very good development

05:39the day these discussions took place.

05:41A big news has been published

05:43in all the newspapers today.

05:45Do you remember that on 9th,

05:47the people who were included in Zehra,

05:49the decisions of the military courts,

05:51the Supreme Court made a law,

05:53the decisions were made,

05:55those who were punished,

05:57nine of them were such

05:59who had a two-year sentence,

06:01then they had a few months of time,

06:03then they had a few months of time,

06:05then they had a few months of time,

06:07then they had a few months of time,

06:09then they had a few months of time,

06:11then they had a few months of time,

06:13then they had a few months of time,

06:15then they had a few months of time,

06:17then they had a few months of time,

06:19then they had a few months of time,

06:21then they had a few months of time,

06:23then they had a few months of time,

06:25then they had a few months of time,

06:27then they had a few months of time,

06:29then they had a few months of time,

06:31should they be entitled to any leniency,

06:33should they be entitled to any leniency,

06:35this is a very big question,

06:37this should be thought about,

06:39that if they are still ready to repeat

06:41the 9th of May incident,

06:43then what is the excuse,

06:45they should not be excused,

06:47where the state of the country,

06:49the state of the state,

06:51the situation should be such

06:53that the violence should not only

06:55be seen as a punishment,

06:57should be seen as a threat again,

06:59there should be some leniency

07:01for the leaders of their own country,

07:03because this leniency has come

07:05from the Pakistani army,

07:07I think they will have to think

07:09about it again,

07:11of course they are requesting

07:13the military leadership

07:15that you did not take this decision,

07:17you should reconsider it,

07:19the leader of the opposition

07:21in the Punjab Assembly,

07:23In the Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaaf as

07:25they call it, Malik Boucher,

07:27The extremist group within Muslim League Noon is very upset.

07:58If the negotiations do not succeed, God forbid, this country will be destabilized.

08:06We have the right to speak. We will go on.

08:10After the break, we will talk about the negotiations and the softness of Pakistan's justice system.

08:19Pakistan Muslim League Noon is a little upset.

08:23I will get the opinion of my panelists on this.

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