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HC of BC football Bill O'Brien joins! Does O'Brien like the current College Football Playoff format?
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1/2/2025
HC of BC football Bill O'Brien joins! Does O'Brien like the current College Football Playoff format? What would he change?
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00:00
Bill, good morning, happy new year.
00:03
Morning guys.
00:04
Happy new year to you guys.
00:05
How's it going?
00:05
How were your holidays?
00:08
Everything was good.
00:08
Yeah, we were in New York city, you know, so we had Christmas
00:11
down there in Times Square, so it was good except for the game.
00:15
But, uh, yeah, you know, we live to see another day.
00:18
That's correct.
00:19
On to 2025.
00:21
Am I right about that?
00:22
Yeah.
00:23
That's right.
00:24
Uh, Ohio state suddenly looking like the, the best team in the
00:28
country, I would say.
00:30
Yeah, they, um, they, they took that Michigan game and, uh, they,
00:36
they've turned that into motivation.
00:38
They, they look like a very, very good team.
00:40
No doubt about it.
00:41
Is, is, is, can you argue that Jeremiah Smith is the best wide
00:45
receiver in college football?
00:47
Yeah.
00:47
I mean, I was, you know, I was there for a month and I will tell you that kid
00:52
for a freshman, um, is probably one of the hardest working young guys I've ever seen.
00:57
I mean, he was in the building every day.
01:00
You know, this was like, you know, whenever in January work in, um, you
01:05
know, great kid, pretty humble kid.
01:07
You know what I mean?
01:07
Like quiet.
01:08
Uh, yeah, he's, he's, uh, he's an amazing player.
01:12
Bill, do you like the expanded playoff format and what would you
01:15
change maybe going forward?
01:19
I would, you know what, I would probably change the way they seeded
01:23
the, the, the teams or, or, or at least reseed it.
01:26
I mean, not, you know, look, I don't know.
01:28
I'm not trying to take anything away from anybody.
01:30
I mean, you know, we got another game today at four, but, uh, the
01:36
teams are very deserving, but you know, you look at Penn state, you
01:39
know, playing SMU and, uh, and Boise state, you know, look, those are
01:44
two good teams, but Penn state's an excellent team.
01:47
So, you know, I guess at the end of the day, you've got the right teams
01:51
probably going to end up in the final four, but maybe the seating would change.
01:54
I've always said too, I think 16 teams would be, would be the perfect, the
01:58
perfect number, but maybe that's too long of a season, but I think
02:01
16 teams is a good, is a good, good number.
02:04
Well, they can change that after this next season, after 2025, they can add teams.
02:11
I think it's, I think it's 12 through next season.
02:13
They, but they are talking about the buys going to the four highest ranked teams
02:20
as opposed to conference championship.
02:21
Uh, you're that's what you're saying, right?
02:23
You'd rather that.
02:24
Yeah.
02:24
And I think, yeah, and I think you might want to do away with like the conference
02:28
championship games and try to get, you know, look, try to try to do the best
02:32
you can to get, you know, the 12 best teams, um, you know, regardless of, you
02:40
know, regardless of what, if they've won 11 games or 10 games or more or whatever
02:44
it is, I think you've got to try to get the 12 best teams, you know, the game
02:47
yesterday, the best game yesterday was, you know, the, uh, Arizona state,
02:52
Texas school and that was an awesome game, that was an incredible game.
02:55
You know, that kid scataboo for, for Arizona state, what an amazing game.
03:00
But, but yeah, if they, if Bill, if they could revote the Heisman,
03:03
would he get it after yesterday?
03:05
I mean, he should, I mean, he wasn't even invited.
03:08
I mean, Oh my God, he did everything.
03:10
He ran, he threw, he caught, I mean, he did everything for that team.
03:14
And I think he had a nasty hangover.
03:16
I mean, it was, uh, he was up on the side.
03:18
Well, I mean, I was nervous about concussions with the way
03:21
you looked on the sidelines.
03:23
Yeah.
03:23
Was he, I don't know.
03:24
Was he sick or was he throwing up?
03:28
And then my, my question, my question in that game is what is targeting?
03:33
Like, I don't know.
03:34
I don't know what targeting is.
03:35
I mean, that, that, that hit that the Texas kid had at the end of the game.
03:40
I mean, I don't know.
03:42
I think that was helmet to helmet, but I mean, I guess
03:44
the evidence was inconclusive.
03:46
Not sure.
03:47
Is being a college kicker, maybe the worst job in the
03:50
entire world's like, I looked at that game yesterday and I can't
03:53
imagine being that boy's parent.
03:55
Like I, if I have a son one day, God willing, he can't be a kicker.
04:02
Yeah.
04:02
Yeah.
04:03
They always say that when you, when you look at the specialists, um, you know,
04:07
there's not a lot of pressure on the punter, but there's a whole lot of
04:10
pressure on the kicker, you know what I mean?
04:11
So it is a tough, tough position to be in, uh, for that kid.
04:15
But, you know, in the end they won, you know, Texas one.
04:18
And that was a, that was an unbelievable game.
04:21
So Quinn yours, it seems like has a $6 million offer waiting to go to
04:30
the portal as opposed to the NFL.
04:33
I, there seems like there's so much wrong with this.
04:38
Where do you stand on that?
04:40
Season's not even over.
04:43
Yeah, no, it's, it's, it's, uh, it's incredible.
04:46
It's ridiculous.
04:47
Like to, first of all, you can't even prove that, you know what I mean?
04:52
Like there, there's gotta be a system in place where, um, you
04:58
know, each team has a salary cap.
05:01
Um, there there's gotta be documentation contracts.
05:06
I mean, there has to be, and to me there does, like, I think I've
05:10
said this to you guys before that there's gotta be some type of college
05:15
commission with a, with a college football commissioner, with a, you
05:18
know, a cabinet of people underneath them that, um, is made up of, you
05:23
know, retired coaches, retired athletic directors that understand football.
05:26
Because, you know, who knows if that's true?
05:28
Quinn yours is a great college quarterback.
05:30
I mean, no doubt about it, but I mean, $6 million to, to, and
05:35
who knows if that's true?
05:36
It's not fair to the kid, you know?
05:37
Right.
05:38
But, um, yeah, it has to be changed.
05:40
It has to be fixed in some way.
05:42
Uh, Bill, do you think though, that there's a chance that something like
05:45
this could actually help in the long run, the NFL product, like you look
05:49
at the quarterbacks in this year's draft, like every guy that touches
05:53
the football field can actually play.
05:54
I mean, Michael Pennix, uh, Jaden Daniels, Bo Nix, we're all in college.
05:58
It seems like forever.
06:00
And those reps help them in the long run.
06:02
And then you're always going to have the uber talented kids.
06:04
Like, you know, you're Drake Mays and you're Caleb Williams.
06:06
So could this theoretically in the long run help the NFL quarterback product?
06:12
There's probably, you know, you probably make a good point there.
06:15
I don't know.
06:16
I just think that like every year is a little bit different.
06:19
I think when you look at this year's NFL quarterback class, you know, possibly
06:23
it could go down as one of the best ones, you know, as we, as we see it play out
06:27
over the years, because, you know, those guys were well-coached in college.
06:31
They, they came into the league.
06:33
They understood how to, you know, run an offense, read coverage,
06:37
um, lead a huddle, things like that.
06:39
You know, some years are different.
06:40
You know, I'm not sure how much of it has to do with, you know, staying in school,
06:44
getting paid NIL and getting all the reps, like you said, but, you know,
06:48
you probably have a point there.
06:49
Um, I do think, I do think when you look at like Jaden Daniels, I mean, that guy,
06:55
he, he's, he's one of the better players I've seen a long time in that league,
06:59
you know, to be able to come in there and play with the poise that he has.
07:02
And, and to play with the ability to read coverage, it's such a different,
07:06
it's so different shine in the NFL, um, than college when it comes to, you know,
07:11
defensive scheme and the speed of the game and all those different things.
07:14
But, you know, you probably have a point.
07:17
You give a guy the opportunity to design one play and he suddenly thinks he's
07:20
a head coach in college football.
07:23
I mean, how far along, how far along are you on designing your play for bill?
07:27
Uh, I need to run some stuff by Wiggy.
07:29
Uh, Wiggy, Wiggy wants to give us a genre action pass, baby.
07:34
Oh, it is.
07:35
Oh yeah.
07:35
Okay.
07:37
Um, best playing football, Bill, is that okay?
07:40
Is that fit in offense wise?
07:42
Absolutely.
07:43
Absolutely.
07:44
We'll, we'll, we'll get it.
07:45
We'll get it in the first game.
07:47
No question.
07:47
I have a name for it yet.
07:48
Shine.
07:49
Uh, yeah.
07:50
Mashed potatoes.
07:50
Okay.
07:53
Bill, what's life look like for you right now?
07:56
After the bowl game, you have guys that are starting to declare for the draft.
07:59
What, what's the future for BC and how do you get there starting now?
08:04
Good future.
08:05
You know, really, really feel good about this program.
08:08
Um, we recruit we're recruiting, right?
08:11
So we, we actually have a guy coming in this weekend, um, a transfer portal,
08:16
tight end coming in to visit us.
08:19
Um, and then we head out on the road on Monday and, you know, recruit.
08:24
And so I think that's the main gist of it for the month of January.
08:27
And then February we come in back off the road and we start our
08:31
off season program with our kids.
08:33
You know, look at the end of the day, you know, like I was saying in the
08:36
beginning, we lost to Nebraska, but you know, our guys fought, our guys
08:41
fought hard and a lot of guys played in that Nebraska game that had
08:43
not played a lot in, in, in the season.
08:46
And so, you know, I think that bodes well for the future of the program.
08:51
The majority of the kids that played in that game will be back for us next year.
08:54
So, and with the addition of freshmen and transfers and things like that.
08:58
So I feel really good about the program.
09:01
We've got to have a great off season.
09:02
We've got to do a really good job of kind of going back to the beginning
09:05
and kind of start all over again.
09:07
But, uh, we'll do that and we'll be back.
09:10
If you were Gerard Mayo, would you be starting Drake May on Sunday?
09:17
That's a very, very, very difficult question.
09:19
I would tell you, Greg, that I would, um, because I believe that the kid is a
09:25
competitor and you never want your team or your organization to, to think that,
09:31
you know, what, when we go into the white lines that we're not trying to
09:35
win at the, at the very highest level.
09:38
And so I would play Drake May.
09:40
Um, you know, if I felt like during the game that, that it was, it wasn't going
09:45
well, that he was taking a bunch of shots, I'd probably take them out.
09:48
But you know, going into the game, I think you've got to say to
09:51
your team, to your organization.
09:53
You got so many people in your organization.
09:55
You can never give a cross or give the feeling that you're not trying to do
09:59
your level best to, to, to win the game.
10:03
Okay.
10:04
If you were Robert Kraft, would it be tough to say no to
10:07
Mike Vrabel if he wants this job?
10:11
That would be a difficult question for me to ask.
10:14
I think, well, this is what I would say, Greg, I'm, you know, I'm, I'm full
10:19
disclosure, Mike Vrabel is one of my closest friends.
10:21
Um, he's a great football coach.
10:24
Um, he worked for me in Houston for a long time, uh, did an unbelievable job.
10:30
And you know, he's, he's a hot commodity, right?
10:33
But the question you have to say to yourself, I think is, do you
10:36
give a guy more than a year, right?
10:38
The guy's only been there for a year, right?
10:40
And so do you, do you say, Hey, look, we've got to give this guy, you sign
10:44
him to whatever, a four or five year contract, like we got to give him more
10:48
than one year, uh, to, to see what he can do to see if he can, you know, get
10:53
get the place on the right track.
10:55
That's the question I have to answer in my, in my opinion, but Mike's a great
10:58
coach, um, and Mike's going to have, you know, every one of these teams are
11:03
going to, I believe are going to come after Mike to, to, uh, hire him.
11:07
And he's, and he's going to have a bunch of options.
11:10
You'd think he'll be coaching in the NFL though, this, this season.
11:13
Yeah, no, no, no question.
11:15
All right, Bill.
11:16
Well, um, I appreciate you taking the time.
11:19
Are we, are we taught?
11:20
I think we're talking to you again next week.
11:21
Cause we'll, we'll talk all things, college football and NFL and everything.
11:26
So I appreciate you taking the time.
11:28
Oh, you guys are great.
11:29
Thanks for having me on.
11:29
I appreciate it.
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