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"It's an insanity at this point" - The Order's Jude Law talks American gun ownership
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22/12/2024
The Brit star plays an FBI agent in Justin Kurzel's new action thriller. Report by Nelsonj. Like us on Facebook at http://www.facebook.com/itn and follow us on Twitter at http://twitter.com/itn
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00:00
I don't know if stuff like that helps. It feels like it helps.
00:02
I mean, he's an interesting guy. I don't want to say he's not an interesting guy.
00:05
He's really an insanity at this point.
00:07
Lovely to see you, as always.
00:10
You were right when you told me that this was a very different kind of film
00:13
to the last project I saw you in.
00:15
Yes.
00:15
Gritty, intense, but great.
00:19
Good.
00:20
Like, great, great film.
00:21
First of all, though, that Tash, your own, it's a strong Tash game in this.
00:25
It's my own, yeah.
00:27
Good job.
00:28
People will be very envious of being able to grow one like that.
00:32
I'm just curious, though, is there a nervousness when you make a film like this,
00:37
which is based in reality?
00:39
I think your character's fictionalized, right?
00:41
Amalgamated, yeah.
00:42
Yes, but the story itself is true.
00:44
Yeah.
00:44
And it's oh so relevant right now.
00:48
Is there a nervousness to putting out a film like this?
00:50
I quite honestly didn't ever feel nervous.
00:53
The intention was always to make sure it was accurate and honest.
00:58
And we knew that, the clever part to me was that Zach had folded this true crime drama.
01:09
It was historical, yeah, it had all this relevance, but into a genre.
01:14
So the hardest part really was the task of making sure that the genre element delivered.
01:20
Because in a way, that's the sort of sugar that makes the medicine go down.
01:24
You kind of watch this propulsive, energized thriller and walk away thinking,
01:28
oh my God, that was a true story.
01:30
And there are these weird echoes in today.
01:34
But those echoes I'm talking about were sort of, they sort of took care of themselves.
01:38
It wasn't like we had to draw those elements out and make some kind of reference.
01:44
Obviously, we referenced at the end the relationship with the Turner diary,
01:46
as a kind of breadcrumb path from then to now.
01:50
But otherwise, it was more, tell this honestly and truly.
01:54
Right.
01:54
I did hear though that you and Nick didn't speak to each other on set to try and maintain.
02:01
Is that something?
02:01
That was kind of set up more by Justin.
02:06
It wasn't like it was a decision made.
02:08
It was, so Justin is a, he's a really great director.
02:12
And he really understands the story.
02:14
He's a really great director and he really understands the process
02:19
or helps the process of preparation for an actor.
02:22
And he writes up manifestos that are individual kind of guides to maybe
02:27
suggestions that might help get into the character's state of mind
02:31
or just a sense of feeling the skin.
02:33
And when we both got to Calgary, Nick's side of the story
02:40
or his character side of the story and mine are kind of separate for a lot of the film.
02:44
And it's these two tales that eventually overlap.
02:48
And I think it just served, it offered itself up that suddenly
02:52
we weren't really going to spend any time together.
02:55
And I guess Justin just lent into that.
02:57
And then in fact, we didn't meet till we meet in the film.
03:01
And I don't, I mean, I don't know if stuff like that helps.
03:03
It feels like it helps.
03:05
You know, you're suspending belief making a film.
03:09
And so anything that adds a sort of detail to that helps in some way.
03:14
Was the getting you to tail Nick for a day also in the manifesto?
03:19
That was a suggestion of his as well.
03:22
Did he do anything interesting that day?
03:24
No, not really.
03:24
I mean, he's an interesting guy.
03:26
I don't want to say he's not an interesting guy.
03:27
He was shopping, going to a cafe.
03:30
Oh, it's a shame he wasn't buying you anything.
03:35
Yeah.
03:35
How into true crime are you though?
03:37
Like, are you, does this kind of story or these kinds of stories?
03:40
Not hugely.
03:41
I know it's quite popular at the moment.
03:42
Yeah, massively.
03:43
That's what I think this will do.
03:44
I don't tend to, I don't tend to, yeah.
03:47
I don't tend to follow it.
03:48
I think, yeah, if I'm honest, I mean, this subject in particular really intrigued me.
03:56
And the potential in the script, as I said, the potential in the role
04:02
really was the thing that pricked my curiosity.
04:05
I don't know.
04:05
I feel like stuff like this triggers me so much when I watch it.
04:08
And I guess it should.
04:09
You should have a reaction, right?
04:10
Yeah.
04:11
Does it stay with you as well after you've done it?
04:13
Making a film like this?
04:14
Yeah.
04:15
Honestly, the process is like a purge.
04:17
So by the time you're done with it, and we worked so hard and over such a short period of time,
04:22
I think we were all quite happy to kind of feel the job was done and we could walk away.
04:27
Right.
04:27
And you leave your feelings in the work.
04:32
Yeah.
04:34
I don't know whether it's because I'm British though and grown up here,
04:38
but I always noticed the amount of gun.
04:40
Obviously, there's a lot of gun use in here,
04:42
because it's just something that I feel so uncomfortable with because we don't have it here.
04:47
Yeah.
04:47
How, because you're British, how do you, how comfortable do you feel about like?
04:52
I'm not a big fan of guns.
04:54
And I've over the years gotten to work with guns a lot and gun experts.
04:59
And you have to go through all this sort of procedure and training and
05:02
different elements of law enforcement in America use weapons in different ways.
05:07
And some people have very healthy relationships with weapons in America.
05:11
Some people clearly have very unhealthy relationships with weapons.
05:14
I mean, I don't particularly enjoy, I don't get anything out of
05:18
firing them or running around with them.
05:19
But you're right.
05:20
I mean, it's extraordinary.
05:22
But I mean, it's no surprise because the number of them that are in use per head.
05:28
Yeah.
05:28
Is really an insanity at this point.
05:32
No, yeah, I just, I think it is because we've grown up here and you're just not.
05:35
So I know, like when I'm watching a film, we're very lucky.
05:38
Yeah.
05:38
You know, it's not to be taken for granted.
05:40
No.
05:40
And I know, listen, you didn't get to, you say, work with Nick that much until the very end,
05:45
but you did with Ty a lot.
05:46
And what was it like working with him?
05:48
Because he's great.
05:48
I haven't, God, I haven't like spoken to him in years now, it feels.
05:53
But when did you, when do you know him from?
05:55
Ready Player One.
05:56
Ready Player One.
05:56
Yeah, yeah.
05:57
And Mud.
05:58
Yes.
05:58
He's wonderful.
05:58
Many, many.
05:59
Yeah, he's so good.
06:00
He was wonderful.
06:00
I mean, honestly, everyone, I'm looking at this poster behind you.
06:04
Every one of the actors, and there are several who aren't on the poster.
06:08
Everyone who came to this really brought a sense of emotional commitment and belief.
06:14
And, you know, we were lucky enough to be on a, I mentioned Justin
06:19
before and our writer, Zach Balin.
06:22
It was a very collaborative piece and everyone came with a perspective and a sense of,
06:29
a sense of personal kind of investment in their roles.
06:34
And they were very well cast, but they really elevated what was on the page
06:38
and were allowed to elevate what was on the page because of the collaborative nature of Zach.
06:42
Yeah, you, you do a great job of disappearing into your roles in all honesty.
06:46
Like this one is, like I said, it's so different to what I last saw you in.
06:50
Must be the moustache.
06:51
It's clearly the moustache and especially that it was real as well.
06:54
Like that's clearly what did it.
06:56
But no, your fabulous acting.
06:59
Lovely to see you again.
07:00
And you.
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