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Manchester football latest: United’s best moments of 2024 and can City turn things around?
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18/12/2024
A roundup of the latest news from across Manchester United and Manchester City.
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So, Rich, looking at Manchester United and obviously Ruben Amorim, since he came in,
00:05
a lot of big changes to sort of navigate his way through. He's obviously come out and said
00:10
the Manchester United job was a bit harder, a bit more than he may have expected as well.
00:15
So a bit of a strange time for him to come in and, you know, have all these changes to
00:20
adjust to. You know, obviously quite a respected manager across Europe as well when he came
00:25
in. But we are also seeing the same sort of situation as Eric Ten Haag when he came into
00:30
the side. He was quite cutthroat. He was quite demanding of his players. And I think United
00:34
fans needed that at that time, certainly when Ten Haag first came in. But what do you sort
00:40
of think have been the biggest changes under Amorim and sort of where he's looking to take
00:46
Manchester United this season?
00:48
I think you made a good point there that it's sort of a fact-finding mission these first
00:52
few months for Amorim in charge. He's got to analyse and sort of look behind the magician's
00:57
cloth as to why things aren't working, because fundamentally it was the players that got
01:02
Ten Haag sacked because the performances on the pitch just weren't good enough. And you
01:06
might point towards his transfers or to the tactics. They certainly were a factor. But,
01:10
you know, you look at that West Ham game, his last game in charge, there was some horrible
01:13
misses, Dalot miss of the season, players just making basic, basic errors. And Amorim's
01:19
learning all about that. He did say, I've come from a big club in sporting, but he's
01:24
realising just how much of an issue there is at Manchester United. He's had the sporting
01:29
director leave in Ruben Amorim. But I feel like he has continued that sort of toughness
01:34
that Ten Haag brought to the role himself. Whatever Ten Haag's legacy is, he brought
01:39
back sort of authority and respect towards the managerial position at Old Trafford. It
01:43
was a move towards ending all player power. And we've seen that again under Ruben Amorim,
01:48
Rashford and Garnaccio both dropped for the Derby. He insisted that was simply down to
01:53
the fact that their training performances weren't good enough, not that there was any
01:56
disciplinary issue. Whatever the actual answer is among that, it is such a huge call for
02:02
a Manchester United manager to drop two academy products, two of the best players United have
02:08
produced in the last decade for such a big game and a game where local talent takes centre
02:14
stage. It's paid off. It's been vindicated. In terms of what he's actually changed, you'd
02:19
have to say that he's brought back that maybe that ruthlessness that was missing towards
02:23
the final months of the Ten Haag era. Obviously, the formation change has been big. We're looking
02:28
to see that and see how that is fully implemented in the months ahead. But so far, the signs
02:33
are good. He talks the talk. We're starting to see if he walks the walk on that. I think
02:37
for me, the biggest and most positive change so far under Amorim is we can see what he's
02:43
tried to do. Ten Haag, he's in his third season when he was sacked, and it was still
02:49
so difficult to judge what his tactical approach was. What was it you wanted the team to do
02:53
on the pitch? Under Amorim, it is clear already. United fans can turn up to every single match
02:59
and see exactly what he is at least trying to do.
03:03
So Rich, looking at Manchester United and obviously the January window approaching now,
03:08
it's sort of become a window that the top flight navigate quite carefully in. The PSR
03:14
and FFP rules do tend to hurt a few clubs now, and they are sort of treading on thin
03:19
ice when it comes to January. It's a bit of a strange month because you look at the likes
03:26
of Liverpool, they're going to need maybe someone to help boost them towards that title.
03:31
Manchester United are in a bit more of a stranger position. They want to really just secure
03:37
going for those European places. So how do you sort of look at January for Man United?
03:42
It's a bit of a strange window, only a month to get some deals in or out. Who sort of stands
03:48
out for United in this window?
03:51
So we do know that United are looking long term at least getting a new left wing back.
03:57
They want to get some new midfielders and a new striker. They'll also need a centre
04:02
back next summer. That won't be sort of addressed for now because Lindelof and Evans both
04:06
have a contract at the end of the season. That's one for them.
04:08
So in terms of what we might see in January, United have already provisionally agreed a
04:13
deal to sign Diego Leon. He's a 17-year-old from Paraguayan club, Cerro Portino, I believe
04:20
it's pronounced or something along those lines. He can't join until he's 18 in April. So there
04:25
might be an agreement in place for Diego Leon in January, but he won't join United until
04:30
next summer. In terms of what else they might do in terms of business, the financial situation
04:34
is tight we hear. And it's even tighter because United's uncertainty of qualifying for the
04:39
Champions League. Obviously, they're only a couple of wins away from those places. Again,
04:43
I still do think United will be there or thereabouts come the end of the campaign, but you can't
04:47
plan to spend Champions League money until you've got the confirmation of it. So I think
04:52
United will be very limited in what they do in January. They could get rid of a few players.
04:56
It'll mostly be loan exits, but players like Lindelof, players like Christian Eriksen out
05:02
of contract at the end of the season, they could be sold now just to get some money and
05:06
just to help balance the books in whatever way they can. I wouldn't be surprised if United
05:11
moved for a wing-back or maybe even another striker on loan in January. Similarly to how
05:18
they got Weghorst, how they got to Sergio Reguilon in the past. Not these big star names,
05:23
kind of outcasts at other clubs, people who need a bit of a chance, but people who can
05:27
come in and do an adequate job. I'm not saying United need to find their permanent solutions
05:32
next month, but hopefully get some players in who can help them towards that end goal.
05:36
So in terms of January, I expect an agreement for Lyon, maybe loan signing, maybe a free
05:42
agent if there's anyone about, but I really don't think there is. I haven't looked at
05:45
the market sort of online myself. And then exits. Marcus Rashford is talk of the town
05:49
at the moment, but for all the rumors and whispers and speculation around him, he has
05:55
such a high wage demands and he's still got a high chance of valuation as well. So as
06:02
fanciful as it is, however easy it is to move players on when you're playing FIFA or
06:06
a football manager, it is a lot harder in real life. So I'm expecting a quiet January
06:11
at Manchester United.
06:12
Rich, looking at Manchester United and across 2024, and obviously a managerial change, a
06:20
few changes with the board as well, a bit of an uncertain situation throughout a few
06:25
spells of the calendar year. But looking back across 2024, what's been their sort of best
06:31
moment? Now, obviously, the FA Cup triumph would probably be quite clearly there.
06:36
But how do United fans assess 2024 as a whole? Can they sort of view it as maybe a bit of
06:42
changing tides with, you know, ahead of 2025 with a new manager, the new sort of board
06:47
situation? What sort of stands out across the calendar year?
06:51
I think, you know, there's two significant things that have happened or three things
06:55
that have happened significantly this year. Like you said, change of manager, change of
06:58
ownership, and then the FA Cup win. In terms of on the pitch, it's got to be that day at
07:03
Wembley because it's ludicrous to think that United was such long odds to beat Man City,
07:08
particularly after what we've seen Man City become. But a derby, a one-off game, you'd
07:12
almost always back the underdogs anyway. But United were rank outsiders for that. If they
07:17
hadn't have won the FA Cup, they wouldn't be in the Europa League now. Ten Hag would
07:21
have been sacked in the summer. And just so much changed that day. In a weird way, winning
07:26
the FA Cup set United back three or four months because it meant they kept Ten Hag
07:30
and then sacked him rather than making the change when they had to have done it, when
07:34
they should have done it. So that's, that's a really quirky one, the way that that sort
07:37
of transpired and the way it worked. In terms of sort of notable off the field issues, the
07:42
managerial change always felt like it could still happen even after they won the FA Cup.
07:47
United didn't give Ten Hag a new contract. They just extended his previous one by another
07:52
year. That kind of indicated that look, this wasn't a show of faith. This was just United
07:56
keeping him because they were backed into an awkward position where they'd spoken to
08:00
candidates. There was no one available who was a better fit than Ten Hag at the time.
08:05
And they just didn't really want to go against the fan base because at the time it was a
08:10
very popular unanimous decision amongst fans, I would say, for Ten Hag to remain. And the
08:15
other has to be the ownership. Ratcliffe hasn't got off to the best start as Manchester United
08:20
owner. There's been the protests over ticket prices. There's been the mess up of the Ten
08:24
Hag situation, the mess up of the Dan Ashworth appointment now that he's left the club as
08:30
well. And the fact that he is working with the Glazers rather than against the Glazers.
08:35
Most United fans wanted the Glazers gone completely. What they've got is someone who's working
08:39
alongside them, who gets on very well with them as well. But in terms of the longevity,
08:45
the legacy of that, we will find out in the years to come how successful it is. We might
08:49
look back at the Sir Jim Ratcliffe era and say, look, he made awkward, ruthless, but
08:56
decisions that were required, those 250 redundancies, which seem really harsh. And you've got a
09:01
lot of sympathy for everyone who lost a job. From a blunt business perspective and background,
09:06
they might be things that have enabled United to do more in the future. At the moment, the
09:11
jury is very much out, feels that Ratcliffe has an uphill struggle to win all the fan
09:15
base over. But his takeover will be the defining moment of 2024 in the years ahead.
09:22
Rich, looking at Manchester City now, obviously, the incredible beast that they've become over
09:28
the last four or five years in the top flight. They're probably one of the greatest Premier
09:34
League outfits of all time, if not the. I mean, an incredible downfall just so quickly
09:41
has spiralled, you know, Rodri picking up the Ballon d'Or award, obviously taking it
09:45
when he was injured as well. And then it sort of just spiralled so, so quickly downhill.
09:51
And, you know, we saw it last season as well. Rodri was injured and Guardiola had to find
09:56
the solutions and they sort of still managed it. They still obviously returned the title.
10:02
How do they sort of need to adjust to change things? It seems like they're not sort of
10:07
getting the best out of Haaland again. He's sort of struggling in the goal department,
10:12
coming up a bit drier. What's the sort of, you know, it's got to be a change, but it can't be
10:18
so exaggerated that Guardiola changes his style and it's a winning style. But there's so much
10:24
wrong with Manchester City at the moment. They need to make sure that they turn it around before
10:29
it's too late. You know, they're going to want to still be competing in the Champions League,
10:33
in the Premier League as well. And it just seems like Liverpool are pulling ahead in the
10:38
Prem and then they could be falling behind in Europe as well. It's a really difficult one
10:45
because, you know, so often head coaches and managers talk about the fine margins and there's
10:51
been some big glaring issues for City in recent games, but there's been just moments in the match
10:55
that have gone against them and the whole momentum has changed. You look back to the
10:58
Derby defeat against Man United, if Mateusz Nunes doesn't make one a bad pass and then a
11:04
rushed decision to take Amad out, they'd probably go and win that game. Instead, it sets off a
11:09
series of events and they go on and lose it. And then the snowball grows bigger again. And it just
11:15
feels like a lot of those sort of small margins have gone against City. And there's a number of
11:19
reasons for that. They're quite fortunate the table is still very open. I still think they'll
11:24
be fine in the Champions League because of the new format. And I think in the Premier League as
11:28
well, it only takes one good week and they could be right up there again. Not challenging for the
11:32
title, but part of the chasing pack. I think right now for City fans, given the way the season's gone,
11:38
given the players who are missing, Champions League qualification, perhaps an FA Cup trophy
11:43
as well. That would be a relative good season to salvage from the situation. So I don't think
11:48
it's all doom and gloom yet, just because a lot of those defeats have been in Cup competitions,
11:53
where there's maybe a bit more leeway as well. But certainly something's not right.
11:57
But if there's someone who can put things right, it's Pep Guardiola.
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