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Chancellor Olaf Scholz loses confidence vote - what is next for Germany?
CGTN Europe
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16/12/2024
CGTN Europe speaks to Dr. Ulrich Brückner, Professor for European Studies at Stanford University Berlin.
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Ulrich Bruckner is Professor of European Studies at Stanford University in Berlin
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and joins us now. Professor, thanks so much for your time.
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So this is actually the result that Olaf Scholz wanted,
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going to get hopefully the backing of the electorate for his economic way forward.
00:17
A calculated risk for him. Do you think it's a wise move for the country?
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Well, first of all, it is a political move,
00:27
because all the parties involved expect this to be more or less beneficial for them.
00:33
Either they couldn't get any influence within the coalition.
00:37
This is the story of the liberals,
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and it's the main reason why they provoked the end of the coalition.
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And for the two remaining party members in the coalition,
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it is more or less a reflection of a changing mood in the German society.
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So I don't really read it as a major crisis of the German political system.
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After all, the Demos has a say.
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And if the spirit in the Demos changes,
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then the most natural reaction is to elect a new government.
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All right. So you think it's perhaps a good move to head for an election in February.
01:17
It's, of course, coming at a time of great economic uncertainty for the country.
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And globally, there's a lot of turbulence,
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if you look at incoming US President Donald Trump.
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Do you think that there's a good way forward for the economy?
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Do you think that there's a right way to handle the economy?
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Because we've seen this massive conflict between Olaf Scholz and the finance ministry he fired.
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Clearly, two very different approaches on how to fix the economy.
01:48
Well, there are definitely a lot of exogenous factors,
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why the German economy and also the mood in the country is so negative.
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And it doesn't really look bright for the coming year.
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But there are also homegrown problems that are partly structural.
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Like when we look at the composition of the electorate,
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30 percent of the electorate is retired.
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And you address a workforce that is shrinking in percentage.
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But at the same time, there have never been more people employed in the German economy.
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And we still see stable jobs in industry,
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although everyone is complaining that Germany is losing competitiveness.
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So there are a number of homegrown and external problems
02:37
that make no matter who is in power in a complicated situation.
02:42
At the same time, the Ampel coalition, like the three streetlight colors that ended today,
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they started a program to reform Germany
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and did a lot of things that people didn't really expect in its far-reaching consequences.
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So in a way, history repeats itself because we see a similar situation
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at the end of the Social Democrat government in 2005,
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when too much has been done too quickly and people rather wanted continuity
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and voted for a conservative government,
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which has been in power for the longest time in the history of West Germany.
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So what we see is not a major shift or a major change in positions.
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It's more like a calibration of centrist parties.
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We shouldn't forget the extreme left and the extreme right in the country.
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This is a new phenomenon.
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But after all, it's basically a functioning normal democratic procedure.
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