NFC Market Shifts: Lions vs. Packers Game Analysis

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00:00And the top of the NFC market almost saw a big shift with the Thursday night game between

00:05the Detroit Lions and the Green Bay Packers.

00:08We were following your Super Bowl outright odds on our in-game coverage where we saw

00:13the Detroit number starting to fall in games where, or in spots where the Packers were

00:18favored to win that game.

00:20Detroit currently sitting at plus 270, at some points they saw plus 320 and plus 350,

00:25so we know that that was a moving number.

00:28Can't hold serve, though, in the game, and they now sit at plus 130 to win the conference.

00:34It is the Eagles, though, who are the second choice right now, Donny, at plus 250.

00:37Yeah, and I liked it where the Eagles are going, and I'm still gonna stick to it here.

00:41Even though we had a close game, you watched the Green Bay Packers and the Detroit Lions

00:44play massive win by the Lions, which they deserve to be favorites, but I always said

00:48if the Philadelphia Eagles were to go into Baltimore and win that game, it looks like

00:51there's a legitimate chance the Eagles would run the table the rest of the way out, and

00:54Detroit may take a loss to be able to put them back into that spot.

00:57I'll tell you what is interesting, though, is how much they are figuring, Joe, between

01:01the Lions and the Eagles.

01:02Plus 270 to 5-1, you say, well, that's a decent little gap, but that's two NFC teams up top.

01:06Now, granted, you have the Buffalo Bills also at a 5-1 price, but typically how that market

01:11would go is Lions would be the favorite, then you would have to put the AFC favorite in

01:15because in order to get to the Super Bowl, those two teams have to play each other, being

01:18the Eagles and the Lions.

01:19So I show that as a testament to how much they're looking at the Eagles like, yo, this

01:23team is legitimate to make a run.

01:25Absolutely.

01:26They win two games by an average margin of 14 points per game, two touchdowns.

01:29I mean, they win today like we expect them, nine straight, be the hottest team in terms

01:33of the NFL.

01:34And think about Detroit in terms of their schedule.

01:36They still have to play the Bills.

01:38They still have to play the Vikings, who's to say they don't drop both of those games

01:41and all of a sudden the Eagles have the number one seed in terms of the conference.

01:45You can never say never.

01:46I think the Eagles right now, to me, are peaking defensively, obviously.

01:50That was the cause of concern early on in the season.

01:53We've seen the rushing attack with Saquon Barkley, now Jalen Hurts, now attacking defenses

01:58over the top.

01:59I mean, they're going to be a tough out the rest of the way.

02:01I mean, can Detroit maintain this from wire to wire is the biggest question.

02:07Can they do it?

02:08They've done a great job up until this point, but if we're talking margins, they haven't

02:11covered now the last two games, is it starting to potentially unravel?

02:15I'm not suggesting they lose games, but maybe one or two where the Eagles can catch them.

02:20The thing for Detroit, if they lose a game next week to Buffalo, I don't think they're,

02:26I mean, it'll be like, ah, defenses catching up, you're falling in seeding, I get that.

02:31Philly's in a unique spot and it's a troubling one.

02:37People might disagree, but there is not a game remaining on the Eagles' schedule that

02:42they can lose where you won't go, ooh, what's wrong?

02:47Today they lose.

02:48Oh, wow, okay.

02:49This team shot, Sirianni's done it.

02:5015-1 the Super Bowl.

02:51I'll tell you, let me tell you this, because I heard it when I was there, and I know you

02:56listened to like the WPI, they lose to Carolina today, Sirianni actually might not make it

03:01next week.

03:02Dylan Hurst, does he survive the cuts in the offseason coming up?

03:05If they lose the following game at home to Pittsburgh, people will be really frustrated

03:10by that.

03:11Okay, maybe not as crazy, but like the way that they'll be rolling, you don't want to

03:14lose a game at home.

03:15It's followed up by going to Washington.

03:17We've seen what's been going on with the Commanders, and then the final two games are

03:21the Cowboys at home, and the Giants at home.

03:24So all of a sudden, the Eagles' options are win 13 games in a row, or we're going to smash

03:33the panic button with a sledgehammer multiple times.

03:38And it's a lot to ask a team to win 13 games in a row.

03:42It just is.

03:43It is.

03:44It's almost like we talk about the New York market, right?

03:46And Philly's that way as well, especially since you made it to a Super Bowl a couple

03:50of years ago and had Pat Mahomes on the ropes, right?

03:53Everybody thought it would be last year, 10-1, you fall off a cliff, you finish the regular

03:58season 1-5, get blown out by Baker.

04:01Now the expectation now with Vic Fangio, Kellen Moore in that offense where they were supposed

04:05to take off.

04:06Saquon has been every bit of the player that you thought when you acquired him.

04:10So there is no excuse anymore.

04:12But I mean, you have to temper it a little.

04:15I mean, if they win 9 straight, 10 straight, and then lose one game, as a gambling perspective,

04:21I think you would take that.

04:22You don't want them to go 13-0 and then lose the first round of the playoffs.

04:26Red, red, red, red, red.

04:27It's going to lay there.

04:28The Blacks got to get in there right on the roulette table.

04:31So as you play it out, you're right about that.

04:32It's also a matter of who you lose to.

04:34The Lions, I guess, technically can afford a loss to the Buffalo Bills, but then still

04:38need to beat the Minnesota Vikings and still have tie-breaking advantages over certain

04:41teams.

04:42This is what makes it so crazy.

04:43I want to point it out.

04:44Before we even watched that primetime game last week, I think it was down to minus 400

04:48as a price for the division for Detroit.

04:50Down from 700.

04:51I believe it was over 1,000 or minus 1,100 now after that victory, and there's still

04:55only one game ahead of Minnesota.

04:57Wild.

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