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'Wicked' Stars Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo Break Down Viral 'Holding Space' Interview
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12/7/2024
'Wicked' Stars Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo break down "the meme of the year." They take us behind 'Holding Space' and why Ariana felt the urge to hold Cynthia's finger during the interview.
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I remember in the moment asking myself, am I okay?
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People are taking the lyrics of Defying Gravity and really holding space with that and feeling
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power in that.
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That's really powerful.
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I was surprised because I was like, I had no idea because I haven't been looking.
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I mean, it's been happening on some level.
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She's like, well, yeah, I mean, I guess.
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I mean, I guess.
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I've seen it.
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That's really powerful.
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I had no idea that this thing was going on.
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I didn't know that that was happening.
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So I didn't know what any part of it meant.
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That's really powerful.
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I didn't understand the first sentence.
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I've seen this week people are taking the lyrics of Defying Gravity and really holding
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space with that and feeling power in that.
00:55
And then I definitely didn't understand what was happening, how you responded.
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I was like, oh, what did she say?
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What did you hear?
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And I just wanted to be there because I knew something big was happening and I didn't know
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how to be there.
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I didn't know that was happening.
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But then after a while, I didn't know how to be there.
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That's why I wanted.
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She said something that meant something to her.
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It meant something totally different to you.
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And then she tried to kind of get somewhere else.
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And the craziest thing was, I remember in the moment asking myself, am I OK?
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Did I not hear something?
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I was like, am I?
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I was like, she looks like she's about to cry again.
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And I'm going to grab this because I think you might need something.
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And I don't know what the tapping was about.
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But tension.
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Tension.
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Yeah, that happened.
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I was like, oh, shit.
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Something's happening.
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She had said that she was seeing it because she was in queer media.
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You know, I am in queer media.
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And I was like, I honestly didn't know what that meant.
02:04
And am I also in queer media, maybe?
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Great.
02:08
Work.
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Let's both be there.
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It was so beautiful.
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I just am glad.
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I feel really relieved that the world had the same experience with this moment that
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I did because I felt like, oh, I'm not broken.
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I do love how the world has like gone with it.
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I felt so relieved.
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My favorite is the gay men's chorus singing, we're really holding space for that.
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Really holding space with that and feeling power in that.
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I haven't seen that.
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I love that one.
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It's so good.
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It's really great.
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Yeah, well, I've seen it.
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I've seen it on a couple of posts.
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And also just like articles.
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I mean, yeah, well, I've seen it.
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That's the craziest part for me.
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It's good.
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I love that it's become vernacular now, which is really fun that people are constantly saying
02:50
we're really holding space for that.
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I want a t-shirt with holding space on that.
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That's when you knew it was something.
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When the next day, Evan Ross Katz texted me and was like, do you want this shirt?
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I got two for you.
03:00
What?
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He has a shirt?
03:02
Is there a shirt?
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He has.
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I need it.
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Please can I have it?
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It's on its way.
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Thanks to Evan Ross Katz.
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Oh my gosh.
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I was like, oh, what's that?
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Oh, perfect.
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The best thing to do is, is really to hold space with that.
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During that interview, I was in the other room.
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Hilarious.
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No idea.
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It was brilliant.
03:19
The world was changing.
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He felt a magical vibe.
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I did feel.
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I was like, something's happening over there.
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My finger is itching.
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It now is like vernacular.
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I love that because you're feeling my vibes.
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That scratches the itch.
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