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Sir Mark Cavendish interview
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06/12/2024
We sit down with cycling superstar Sir Mark Cavendish to discuss, retirement, accolades and what's next.
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00:00
So Mark, it's been quite a year to cap a truly, I'm going to say, truly remarkable career.
00:06
Before we get into the cycling, let's talk through the emotions when you found out you were going to be made a Knight of the Realm.
00:13
It was really nice, it was quite emotional actually.
00:19
You know in my sport, like any sports person, you strive for results.
00:25
And you know a result is a thing you achieve, and you know if you put the work in you get that.
00:31
It's a recognition, and that's something pretty special.
00:37
Because you don't often think about, you think how you can inspire, and you think about how you are with fans, how you are with kids.
00:47
You never think of any recognition, but you do it for why you do it.
00:55
When I found out, I was touched.
01:00
It was really nice, I don't sound like a Knight, but it was very, very nice.
01:10
Have you bought yourself a big sword, or maybe a nice cape?
01:17
I'll have to get fitted for a suit, and I'm dead awkward in a collar.
01:22
I'm so awkward in a collar, so it's going to be the collar that's going to be the most nerve-wracking thing,
01:28
rather than meeting a member of the Royal Family I guess.
01:32
And I'm guessing they all seem to be big sports fans, so that'll probably be quite a big deal for them as well.
01:37
It's wonderful, obviously I had a letter from His Majesty when the Knight was appointed,
01:46
and then I also had a letter from Her Majesty Princess Anne, it was very nice.
01:53
I've met Prince Harry a couple of times working with Help For Heroes,
01:58
and he was at the start of the Tour de France when we were in Yorkshire.
02:02
They're big into sports, it's really nice.
02:05
Something I never said if I ever got the chance to interview you,
02:08
I was going to ask you about your freedom of the Borough of Douglas you got in 2008.
02:12
So I wanted to know, do you get any perks for that? Can you park anywhere you want?
02:18
I thought you could park wherever you want.
02:21
You've booked parking tickets to say you can't now?
02:24
Yeah, my tyre's been cold so I don't know if I can park it right now.
02:28
I think you can park in the Borough car park, but I don't.
02:33
No sheep you can drive through Strand Street?
02:35
Yeah, I think that's one of them, isn't it?
02:37
I'm not sure, I'm asking. I didn't know you got a starter pack.
02:40
You can walk your sheep down Strand Street.
02:44
I've got five kids, so walking them down Strand Street is like walking a herd of sheep anyway.
02:52
Again, it's the honour of it. I'll always pay when the parking machine's working.
02:59
I'll always pay for my parking anyway.
03:02
I just appreciate that I'm a freeman of the capital city of this island.
03:09
It's a city now, Douglas, isn't it?
03:11
It is, yeah.
03:13
I think that might have been something to do with you because it was one of the most recent ones,
03:17
so your achievements may have been a weight to that.
03:20
I'll take credit for a lot of things, but not that much.
03:23
Right, we should talk about cycling.
03:27
Back in the start of the year, was it a straightforward decision to say,
03:31
I'm going to give it one last crack at the Tour, or was there a lot of mixed emotions there?
03:36
Yeah, I was retired. That was it.
03:39
I'd announced my retirement in May, and that was my last Tour de France.
03:47
It didn't end how I wanted it to end, but that's life as a sport.
03:52
I've had good luck in my career, so you have bad luck as well.
03:56
It just balances itself out, and that's how I saw it.
03:59
I've had good times, and sometimes things just don't go your way.
04:04
So that was it. I was done.
04:07
As soon as I got back from the hospital, my team boss was like, carry on.
04:10
My wife was like, carry on. But I really didn't want to.
04:13
I knew what I wanted to do. I knew that that was going to be the last Tour.
04:18
I put everything I had into doing it.
04:22
My job's hard.
04:26
I'm very fortunate to ride my bike for a living, and there's some great perks to doing it,
04:32
but it's not an easy life.
04:35
I can't complain. There's people in worse situations than I am, but it's not easy.
04:40
I've been doing it for 20 years. It was time.
04:44
I actually came to the kids. They were like, what do you mean you're not going to be a bike rider?
04:50
I said, yeah, it's like that.
04:53
What do you mean?
04:56
Pete was like, Dad, you'll carry on. I said, I'm not.
04:59
I said, actually, I'll ask you guys. I want to be with you, so I want to spend more time with you.
05:04
I was like, so what should I do? Should I do another year or what?
05:09
They all unanimously said yes, so that was the decision made for me, really.
05:15
You said it was hard. Did you feel added pressure this year when you made that decision to come back?
05:23
Everyone was talking about the record.
05:26
No, absolutely no added pressure. I've never known anything except pressure.
05:31
You're in a good position when you're expected to win. My whole career I've been expected to win.
05:35
It means I've done something right.
05:39
The only pressure you should really pay attention to is the pressure you put on yourself.
05:45
I know what I can control.
05:50
Everything else is expectation. It's out of my control.
05:58
If I put the work in, I had the right team around me and the right equipment.
06:09
Light-wise, light-wise, everything I could control.
06:12
If I could do the best I could do, I knew I'd be in the best shot of winning.
06:17
Fortunately, I had all those things.
06:20
A year's not too long to focus on one thing.
06:26
You need a goal to get out of bed every morning.
06:29
An Olympic cycle is four years. That can seem a long way.
06:33
A year, you can do it. Ultimately, I enjoyed it.
06:36
I was with a great group of lads on my team.
06:40
Brilliant, like a family people I've raced with before.
06:45
Adam Bossie was a champion as well. He was Olympic champion in London in 2012.
06:51
He was 40 years old. He understands what it's like.
06:54
His words were always like, we know if you do the work, that's all we can ask of you.
06:59
You try your best.
07:02
I know if I try my best, I should be successful.
07:06
It's just a case of doing what I can control, which is trying my best.
07:10
I'm going to ask you a good question now.
07:12
When you got to the end of that stage in St. Volbas,
07:15
I've been trying to get my French pronunciation correct all day.
07:19
I knew I would get it wrong.
07:21
I remember watching the television coverage straight after.
07:24
You seemed almost shocked.
07:28
Now you've had a couple of months to reflect.
07:31
What are your emotions about that day? Are you still incredibly proud?
07:35
In all honesty, it's the same as every other time I've won at the Tour.
07:40
Because my life has been exactly like it has been after every Tour de France.
07:46
I always take a couple of weeks off with my family, try and regroup, relax a little bit.
07:52
You're in this high-intensity bubble for not just the three weeks of the Tour,
07:57
but the months leading up to it as well.
07:59
Just to unwind for a few weeks is important for the rest of the year.
08:04
Then you build up for the rest of the year now.
08:09
It's not been any different, really.
08:11
It's been a little bit busier with things that have come off the back of winning the 35th win.
08:23
In terms of the professional side of it, that still continues.
08:29
You keep just focusing on that and the next step.
08:32
There'll be a lot of time to look back.
08:34
Of course, I'm proud.
08:36
I'm proud of the journey we made the last year together.
08:40
My team are starting in Kazakhstan, me and my family.
08:47
The support has lived the journey with me.
08:50
It's been quite a nice story to build up.
08:56
I'm honoured to have been the main character of that.
09:02
There's a lot of people who've worked as hard, if not harder, than I have.
09:07
Hopefully, they're relaxing too.
09:09
You talk about the story, the journey.
09:11
It's been, as you said earlier, nearly 20 years.
09:14
Man and boy, we're saying.
09:16
What do you put down to your longevity?
09:20
It's very rare in any sport, let alone professional cycling,
09:23
that someone has a career that long and that successful.
09:28
When I was 14 years old, I used to finish school on a Friday
09:35
and ride my bike down to the ferry with a duffel bag on my back,
09:41
like a rucksack, and get that ferry over to compete in the UK.
09:45
Get a train, whatever, in the night time.
09:47
Ready for the weekend and get the midnight ferry back on a Sunday
09:50
and go to school then on a Monday.
09:53
We're well-supported here.
09:55
We have the NSE, there's a good community of cyclists here.
10:02
But you're still at a disadvantage.
10:07
It was graft. It was graft.
10:14
But you do it.
10:17
As I was growing up, I was not as really strong as anyone else
10:22
and I learned to race.
10:24
If they pushed hard on a hill, I'd be dropped.
10:27
But again, it was graft.
10:29
Any one of these things are kind of an excuse to get out.
10:34
It's a good thing.
10:36
It's a good thing.
10:38
It's a good thing.
10:40
It's a good thing.
10:43
It's kind of an excuse to get out.
10:48
You don't have an excuse to get out.
10:51
You just work to what you can do.
10:54
That's all I've known, really.
10:57
Just work the hardest you can do.
11:02
And know what you can do and don't let other people say what you can do.
11:07
I'm able to do that more because I love it.
11:11
I love riding my bike.
11:13
I like riding my bike with the kids.
11:15
I like riding my bike as a mode of transport.
11:17
I like riding out with my friends.
11:19
I like racing.
11:21
I get to do that for a job, which makes it easier.
11:27
That moment to give up is completely heightened,
11:30
I think, from my roots here, for sure.
11:33
You just don't give up.
11:35
In the past, you've mentioned the terrain of this place
11:38
also has been a contributing factor.
11:40
The fact that anyone that follows you on Strava or whatever,
11:43
the amazing routes you do, it's a great training place, isn't it?
11:48
And after you, we've also produced other professionals as well.
11:51
We must be doing something right with the geography of the place, isn't it?
11:54
Yeah.
11:56
It's never boring here.
11:59
You're always up and down.
12:02
And if you don't know any different, it instills something into you.
12:06
And the roads are hard.
12:08
They're heavy roads to ride on.
12:11
They're roads that are designed so that the water doesn't stay
12:16
and make them slippy, you know, for obvious reasons.
12:19
So you kind of stick to them.
12:22
And then for those obvious reasons, which is the weather,
12:27
you kind of get a bit hardy with it, you know.
12:32
Not like going, oh, macho, macho, but the rain doesn't bother you
12:36
because it rains here a lot, you know.
12:40
And like I said before, the community here, bike riding community,
12:44
there's always a group.
12:46
As long as I've known, there's a group out that meets the same time every day.
12:49
At the NSC.
12:50
At the NSC, yeah.
12:52
And it's beautiful.
12:54
Like we've got a beautiful day today.
12:56
And on a day like today, the scenery,
12:59
doesn't matter how many times you've seen it, you're going to enjoy it.
13:02
So I still say I've been everywhere in the world to ride my bike,
13:05
and this is still my favourite place and always will be.
13:08
We're looking ahead to the future.
13:10
I know you've probably got lots of irons in the fire and stuff,
13:13
but have you got a plan?
13:15
You know, do you want to maybe go into Punditry,
13:18
maybe team up with another Laxey resident and do a podcast?
13:22
Or go back to, was it the 2014 Commonwealth Games
13:25
when you did the sportive director role for the games team?
13:29
Is that something that maybe interests you?
13:31
Yeah, like for the moment, I know what I will do in the future.
13:36
I don't know what I'm doing short term.
13:40
Like I carried on over the year, maybe I'd do more.
13:44
I don't know.
13:47
But yeah, my future is, like I like management, I like business,
13:54
I like working with a team, you know, and that's always what I thought I'd do.
14:02
I've always been able to get a group of people working well together.
14:07
That was always, I knew that I could do that,
14:15
and I'm very fortunate I had the best people around me
14:18
that I could kind of try and get the best from as well.
14:22
And I get a buzz out of everything from a kid learning to ride a balance bike
14:30
up to helping a pro go faster up a hill.
14:37
I think I feel success in other people as much as I do in myself, you know.
14:44
So I think the natural step is into management,
14:48
whether it be in cycling or out of cycling.
14:50
I don't know, but obviously cycling I know, so that would be an easy choice.
14:56
But planetary, things like that.
15:01
I love watching cycling, but yeah, I'm actually quite shy, I guess.
15:10
Do you know what I mean?
15:12
Of course, being Mark Cavendish has opened a lot of doors,
15:18
but I'm quite happy not to be in the limelight, really.
15:26
Finally, the Isle of Man looks nailed on to be hosting the Isle of Games in 2029.
15:32
Oh, really? That's the first time I've heard that.
15:34
Oh, right. So my question is, could there be a last, last dance?
15:38
No, no, no. How old will I be in 2029?
15:40
In 25 years, mate.
15:41
44.
15:42
44 in your prime.
15:43
Oh, maybe. Like Andrew Roach has still got, he's nearly 70.
15:49
Elliot as well.
15:50
Elliot as well.
15:51
Get the band back together.
15:53
I don't know. Look, there's always so many talented, of every age group,
16:00
talented vets, talented juniors, talented kids.
16:04
It's always like there's so much talent in all sports,
16:08
especially in cycling over here, that there's always someone like, yeah.
16:14
There's not enough.
16:18
There'll be someone better than me for sure, do you know?
16:21
I'll come and watch.
16:23
Mark, thanks for your time.
16:25
Great.
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