Entretien spécial avec Mamadou Tangara, ministre des Affaires étrangères de Gambie - 01/12/2024 - Vidéo Dailymotion

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MEDI1TV Afrique : Entretien spécial avec Mamadou Tangara, ministre des Affaires étrangères de Gambie - 01/12/2024

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00:00Ladies and gentlemen, good morning, I am delighted to see you again for a new interview on Mediain TV.

00:17Mediain TV takes its headquarters today at the Palace of Arts and Culture in Tangier

00:23on the occasion of the 16th edition of the International Med Days Forum.

00:28A 16th edition that has chosen this year as a theme

00:33sovereignty and resilience towards a new global balance.

00:39Several very high-level personalities, heads of state, heads of government,

00:45ministers, international leaders, political decision-makers,

00:49but not only, 250 very high-level personalities,

00:536,000 people who attend roundtables, debates on major issues,

01:00issues of global geopolitics.

01:03Africa is obviously at the heart of the reflection,

01:07and in particular African continental integration.

01:11So what are the local, regional issues?

01:15What are the levers to progress towards this continental agenda?

01:21I have the pleasure of receiving in this interview

01:24one of the most important personalities who participate in these debates.

01:28I want to name Mr. Minister Tangaram Amadou,

01:33Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Gambia.

01:36Welcome to you.

01:37Thank you very much, Naya.

01:39It is always a pleasure to come and entertain with you on this beautiful channel that is Mediain.

01:46Sovereignty and resilience towards a new global balance.

01:51What inspires you?

01:52This new theme chosen by the Met Days forum,

01:56a forum that you have known for a long time.

02:00The theme of this year resonates perfectly with Gambia,

02:07given the fact that this question of sovereignty has arisen in Gambia

02:14since the first days of independence.

02:17There is, by the way, an American writer, a reporter,

02:20who said that Gambia could not be held as a geopolitical entity.

02:25It is not feasible.

02:27You know very well the position of Gambia,

02:30which is a country within Senegal.

02:33So I often say that it is a nation with states

02:36whose destinies are inextricably linked,

02:40so we have to work together.

02:43When I talk about sovereignty, I also think of solidarity,

02:48not sovereignty in rivalry,

02:51because today we need each other.

02:54And we need this existing solidarity so that we can move forward together.

02:59We don't choose our neighbors.

03:02I often say that geography dictates its laws to diplomacy,

03:07so we have to cohabit with our neighbors,

03:10to find ways to live in harmony,

03:13and to wish happiness to our neighbor,

03:16because the neighbor's happiness can only be your happiness.

03:19But if you wish, even in a village or in a concession,

03:22that the other person's house burns,

03:24when it burns, it cannot be repaired.

03:27So sovereignty, but in an existing solidarity.

03:30I think I see Morocco as an example, a good example,

03:36especially after the landslides,

03:40we saw this existing solidarity of the Moroccan people in sovereignty.

03:44And I salute, by the way, the vision of His Majesty King Mohamed VI,

03:51because it was a moment when we saw all the Moroccans

03:55rallying behind their king to come and help the sinister.

04:01That was a good example of solidarity in a sovereign way.

04:06In a sovereign way.

04:08It's very interesting, this idea of geography dictating diplomacy to men.

04:14The African continent, the African countries, have a common destiny.

04:22That's what we hear when we listen to you, Mr. Minister.

04:27You salute the Moroccan model, you celebrate this acting solidarity

04:33and this south-south cooperation.

04:35It may also be the occasion, since you mentioned the Kingdom of Morocco,

04:39to come back to these structural projects,

04:42these major structural projects, the most recent.

04:45And you are directly concerned.

04:47The Republic of Gambia is directly concerned.

04:50It is the royal initiative of the Atlantic front,

04:53which concerns 23 riverine countries of the Atlantic front

04:58and which also has the vocation to unclog,

05:02and here we are talking about solidarity, the countries of the Sahel.

05:06Absolutely, because Morocco has taken this beautiful initiative,

05:10given the fact that we don't all have the same means.

05:14And I think that in this spirit of south-south cooperation

05:18and existing solidarity, as I call it,

05:20Morocco has thought about making sure that we can mutualize our means

05:24to face the challenges.

05:26You know, a long time ago, the stories of Peracherie were very far-fetched,

05:30but we have seen that it is getting closer to our coast.

05:32So we must not wait for the fire to be announced to play the firefighters.

05:38This diplomacy of firefighters, we must know how to overcome this.

05:41So we must know how to anticipate.

05:43And it is in this spirit of anticipation that Morocco has come up with this initiative,

05:49to which Gabi is effectively participating.

05:52And it is also a way to unclog the other countries that are a bit far away.

05:57Because I always say that in our region, especially in this front,

06:01and a bit everywhere else,

06:03what affects one directly affects others indirectly, in one way or another.

06:07We can see the crisis in Libya, it was quite far away,

06:11but today we have seen the consequences up to the Sahel,

06:14because it favoured a bit the proliferation of terrorism,

06:19with the weapons that were everywhere.

06:22So at a certain moment, I remember when we disarmed the fighters

06:28at the level of Liberia or Sierra Leone,

06:30we gave them $300 and they offered us the Kalashnikov.

06:33This is no longer the case.

06:35You have a Kalashnikov, you can do business with it,

06:37you can do kidnapping, you can do anything.

06:41We find ourselves in a place where, because of poverty,

06:45of course, terror is fertile for banditry, for terrorism.

06:51And so I think it is important that we can mutualize our means,

06:56and this is what Morocco offers us.

06:58It is in the Moroccan tradition.

07:01I am one of the laureates of Morocco.

07:05I did my first university here in Morocco, in Oujda,

07:09at the Université Mohamed I.

07:11I salute the authorities in passing.

07:14His Majesty Fouad Sendeh had this vision to train African young people

07:20who today, de facto, become ambassadors of Morocco,

07:23because there is this sentimental link with this country.

07:26Because this is where we spent the tender moments of our youth,

07:31so we are very attached to this country.

07:36So we will continue to talk about Morocco and your relationship with Morocco,

07:41but also the relationship of the Republic of Gambia

07:43and also with the Kingdom of Morocco,

07:44since there is another project, a large structural project too,

07:49which will benefit several African countries, including the Republic of Gambia.

07:55It is the project of the Gasoduc Morocco-Nigeria as well.

07:59Because you were talking about the issue of preventing conflicts,

08:04there is no peace, there is no development, there is no economic growth.

08:09This project is promising in this area.

08:13Yes, you know, the sine qua non condition of all development is peace and stability.

08:19And we cannot talk about gas if there is no peace and stability in this area.

08:24And that is why all our efforts go in this direction.

08:29At all levels, visibly or invisibly, discreetly or sometimes very discreetly,

08:38to help resolve conflicts.

08:40I take the case of my country, Gambia.

08:42Many people do not know this, but when there is a political impasse,

08:46Morocco is willing to intervene.

08:48The intervention of Morocco was decisive in the resolution of this latent crisis.

08:58It was done discreetly, but at least we know something about it,

09:02because it was in the centre, and it was very effective.

09:05So, peace and stability is the sine qua non condition,

09:10even so that we can realize this gasoduc dream between Nigeria and Morocco.

09:16Mr. Minister, you said earlier that geography also dictates diplomacy to men and politicians.

09:23The economy also has its own dictates.

09:27And the major issue, I would even say the neuralgic issue of the African continent,

09:31is still its integration.

09:334% of the African GDP for the world GDP.

09:42How can Africa today, in this context of global fragmentation,

09:50progress towards an African integration agenda?

09:56There is a lot to do, I believe, today.

09:58One of the speakers said in one of the debates

10:02that certain local and national considerations had to be put aside

10:07to progress together towards this continental economic integration.

10:11What do you think about this?

10:12We need this integration.

10:15But unfortunately, politicians often speak in bad words.

10:19But in reality, it is very difficult to trade between Africans.

10:24We sometimes prefer to buy very far from us what we can have in Morocco.

10:30So, we must promote this partnership and open borders so that we can trade between us.

10:38Transport and communication are also a very big challenge.

10:42I spoke to a colleague earlier.

10:44In order to come to Gaza, he has to go up to Europe and then come back down.

10:49All these are bottlenecks that must be eliminated

10:56so that we can really integrate.

10:58This economic integration, as I said earlier,

11:01the happiness of the neighbor, the prosperity of the neighbor,

11:04can only be prosperity for us.

11:06As the Malaysians say,

11:10because if the neighbor is at risk, he is happy, he is comfortable,

11:14he does not need to come and invade you or anything.

11:18Today, we have seen with the migratory crisis,

11:21it is a bit the difficulties that push people to leave.

11:25So, let's try to create opportunities where we are.

11:29Let's try to promote this partnership on the side,

11:33in which Morocco is one of the promoters,

11:35so that we can break this vicious circle

11:39and go towards an effective integration of peoples,

11:43so that we learn to know each other better.

11:47This will be the last word,

11:48so that we learn to know each other better,

11:51even if we already know each other.

11:54It was a pleasure to welcome you, Mr. Minister.

11:56Thank you for being with us,

11:58for accepting the invitation of Median TV.

12:00It is always a pleasure to come to Median TV

12:04and congratulations, Nadia,

12:06for the excellent work you are doing.

12:10Thank you very much.

12:12And thank you.

12:13This is the end of this interview.

12:15Thank you for following it.

12:16Excellent.

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Entretien spécial avec Mamadou Tangara, ministre des Affaires étrangères de Gambie - 01/12/2024

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