MassLive's Karen Guregian rejoins the show to run down four reasons to be thankful during this Patriots season, share her reporting on the team's decision to welcome back Jabrill Peppers and preview Sunday's game against the Colts.
0:00 - Intro
2:12 - Reasons to be grateful
4:29 - Return of silver pants
8:36 - Rookie receiver evaluation
10:48 - Offensive line assessment
12:24 - Cole Strange's potential
14:08 - Jabril Peppers update
17:07 - Police report details
19:12 - Accusations against Peppers
20:44 - Patriots' investigation findings
23:55 - Peppers' return to play
25:40 - Prize Picks promo
29:01 - Building team culture
34:45 - Drake May's plays
37:25 - Anthony Richardson matchup
40:01 - Patriots defense strategy
42:06 - Key to the game
44:12 - Offensive line protection
46:01 - Coaching staff evaluation
52:05 - Game score prediction
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2:12 - Reasons to be grateful
4:29 - Return of silver pants
8:36 - Rookie receiver evaluation
10:48 - Offensive line assessment
12:24 - Cole Strange's potential
14:08 - Jabril Peppers update
17:07 - Police report details
19:12 - Accusations against Peppers
20:44 - Patriots' investigation findings
23:55 - Peppers' return to play
25:40 - Prize Picks promo
29:01 - Building team culture
34:45 - Drake May's plays
37:25 - Anthony Richardson matchup
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00:00Okay apologies for the delayed
00:16releases we get is Friday
00:17afternoon. But as they say we
00:19save the best for last
00:20especially here in the past
00:21interference podcast. We're not
00:22talking about the best football
00:24this season we're talking about
00:25the best guess we've had a
00:26while. I have to say. As it is
00:29a time for giving thanks I am
00:30thankful for a few people in my
00:32life let alone sports media
00:33that our current guest
00:34Carrie Gregion. Of mass live
00:36which Karen you left me
00:37abandoned me at the Herald-
00:39eighteen months ago. Is it
00:41still weird hearing Carrie
00:42Gregion from mass live and not
00:44the Boston Herald. It is and
00:47you can don't make me cry come
00:49on now. I miss you too. But I
00:56don't know if I said that. Come
00:58on. My former partner in crime
01:02I see I think my departure has
01:05led you to bigger and better
01:06things. How's that well thank
01:09you it's a wonderful not answer
01:10by you not anything to do with
01:11the question I asked but I
01:13appreciate you. Deeply what you
01:15know so we won't spend too much
01:16more time on that but we are
01:17gonna spend time on today
01:19Patriots have a game Sunday
01:20playing the Colts. Before that
01:22we're gonna talk a little
01:23bit more about that. We're gonna
01:24talk a little bit more about
01:25George bro peppers because- he
01:27returns facility on Tuesday you
01:29have some reporting that I
01:30missed as I was. You know very.
01:32I was a cautiously right around
01:34domestic violence around legal
01:35situations trying to pen a
01:36column and lo and behold you
01:37had the answer all along.
01:38Before we get to that. I want
01:40to talk about what we learned
01:41today at Gillette stadium good
01:43drive mail press conference a
01:44small nuggets. And before we
01:46get to that. Can't tell you
01:48jampacked episode today. Two
01:49reasons to be thankful I took
01:51the time to ask you. To give
01:52me this amount of reasons for
01:53the Patriots fans to be
01:54thankful this season which has
01:55been harder. It's been harder
01:56since you left. But I gave nine
01:59and I ask you for two. Neither
02:01could be Drake may. So what do
02:03you got. First of all if you
02:06came up with nine that's award
02:08winning. Thank you thank. Okay
02:12reasons to be grateful- they
02:15might not think the case but
02:18they might. Well the fact that
02:20they're in line for a top five
02:22or top ten pick. I would put
02:25pretty high on the list. I
02:29think you know depending on how
02:32high they go they could
02:33actually move down in game more
02:35assets. Because they have so
02:37many holes to fill kind of like
02:40last year except they do have
02:41the quarterback. But now one
02:45might hope that they would
02:46actually find. A left tackle
02:49who's played left tackle before.
02:52As opposed to signing free agent
02:55right tackles and drafting right
02:58tackles. And then expecting them
03:00to play left tackle which has
03:02not worked out. Okay but saying
03:03positive for great we're
03:04grateful today we're thankful
03:05today. Well I'm well I'm
03:07grateful they have another
03:08chance at it house. Good. And
03:14this one this one is kind of a
03:16personal one but- I'm really
03:20glad they beat Aaron Rodgers in
03:21the Jets the second time. Well
03:26and it was it was good that
03:28they could beat someone who's
03:30as messed up as they are. I
03:33mean the Jets have a- far more
03:35talented team. But I don't know
03:40I kind of I kind of like that
03:41when. Personally how's that no
03:45that was the last reason I had
03:48on the nine it's the Jets
03:49because here's the deal when
03:50you're the Patriots and this is
03:51true. In the cam Newton year it
03:53was true when they went eight
03:54nine map attrition Joe judge
03:55Walker on the sidelines. I like
03:57a couple of turkeys. And it was
03:59true last year and it's true
04:00again this year. Even in the
04:01darkest days of this franchise.
04:03You still have the Jets you
04:05don't have a head coach. Don't
04:06have a general manager who have
04:08a quarterback who's on the way
04:09out the door a lot of the Joker
04:11walking out as a hospital blows
04:12up behind him in the dark night.
04:14And he might not be smiling
04:15though he is when he's talking
04:16about if he but the point is.
04:18It's still worse right down. I
04:20ninety five out there in East
04:22Rutherford in Florida park where
04:23they have their headquarters so
04:24I'm gonna give you one more
04:25because I'm gonna have to really
04:26quickly the return of the silver
04:28pants. Here I think the
04:30blandest most boring home
04:32uniforms in the NFL NFL do
04:34belong to the Patriots. It's the
04:36Navy on Navy. It was fine as I
04:38go okay the changing up
04:39Thursday night alternate no more
04:41I want them abolished I want the
04:43silver pants back it's a simple
04:44compliment to the silver helmet
04:46it's a classic look. They've
04:48been slowly incorporated more
04:49and more I I felt thankful that
04:51was reason number eight. I find
04:53it interesting that. A lot of
04:55you guys not just you are so
04:57interested in wardrobe. I mean
05:00usually that me I'm in a high
05:02school sweatshirt of a very
05:03fashionable guy Karen that would
05:05be like a female thing like.
05:07The uniforms. Stereotype now I'm
05:09not we're not wrong though right
05:11silver pants upgrade. Yeah I
05:13think the seal silver pants are
05:15you never I wasn't a big fan of
05:17the color rush for anybody really
05:19so. Very little on blue you know
05:22contrast. Little spice it up-
05:25speaking of spice it up here
05:26three nuggets in a minute not
05:27yet you're gonna pick one this
05:29is from drive me out today
05:30number one Cole strange. Gonna
05:32wait another week he is still
05:33the P. P. list they have until
05:35December tenth to activate him
05:37it seems likely because you're
05:38out now said yeah the plan is
05:39for him. I'm gonna wait another
05:40week he is still the P. P. list
05:41said yeah the plan is for him to
05:42play. It'll do that not this
05:44week. Not next week when they're
05:45on by. But the week after before
05:47the players on that's not good
05:48number one. Number two. Is you
05:51and I were just talking about
05:52that off air Matty Bruce. Canned
05:54by the bears. For the worst end
05:56of game clock management I have
05:58ever seen. Heard of. Anything
06:01related to that. And soon after
06:03watching the bears game in his
06:04house drive mail calls Evan
06:05Rothstein on Thanksgiving is
06:07assistant quarterbacks coach.
06:08Director of game management
06:10and he's so strong for director
06:11title to me. Alas he calls and
06:14Rothstein says Hey let's talk
06:15to this number three. Drive mail
06:17says specifically. Over the last
06:19five games they need to learn
06:20about the guys I said okay which
06:21guys. When Robinson. Cole
06:24strange. Kate Wallace and then
06:26quote the receiver so those are
06:28three nuggets you're gonna pick
06:29one but in a second in the
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07:31have been waiting. Well. Well of
07:35those three. I sort of. I'm
07:37going to touch on one real
07:38quick. I'm going to move number
07:40two. Down to later in the show.
07:43Oh okay. And okay. And I want to
07:47talk about number three. But
07:48number one Cole Strange being
07:50moved back. Not a surprise. If
07:52you've watched him. His first
07:55practice back. He looked like a
07:57kid who was just learning how to
07:59play. Again. And he said he had
08:03to learn how to walk again. So
08:06it shouldn't come as a surprise
08:08that you know he's not quite
08:10ready just yet. And I would say
08:13it's good to wait for him. Last
08:16question. Gerard wanting to get
08:18a look at mostly his draft picks.
08:23And it's been a tough. It's been
08:27a tough to kind of navigate
08:30between winning games. And
08:33trying to find out what you
08:35have. On your roster. You know
08:39particularly the younger guys.
08:41But I think we've hit the point
08:43with five games to play that.
08:46You need to know. Can the two
08:50rookie receivers. You know. Do
08:53they really look like bus or is
08:55there hope for them. You know.
08:58Baker hasn't been able to get on
09:00the field. He's had some
09:01problems. You know making
09:04mistakes. Running wrong routes.
09:06Yada yada yada. Polk came up
09:11with a dropsy problem. That was
09:14new to him. And making mistakes.
09:19So you have to see. I mean Polk
09:23especially a second round pick.
09:26You know they just shoved
09:27Tycorne Thornton out the door.
09:30You know he was a bust.
09:32Obviously. They need to see.
09:35Elliott Wolfe needs to see.
09:38About their evaluation of wide
09:41receivers. And you know. Is
09:44this a continuation. What was
09:46happening under Bill Belichick.
09:50Or you know. Did they just miss
09:52it on these guys. They have to
09:54know. Because that's going to
09:56help them. You know. On their
09:58priority list next year. You
10:01know. What they have to do.
10:03Offensive linemen as well. Are
10:06they serviceable. Can they
10:07start. When I saw Leighton
10:11Robinson early on. I thought he
10:13was going to be something.
10:14Because he was a bit of a
10:15mauler. He's kind of a one
10:20trick pony. He's good in run
10:22blocking. Because he is a
10:23mauler. But he's not good in
10:25pass protection. Is that a
10:27matter of technique. You know.
10:29Can they help him with
10:30technique. So they have to. You
10:35know. Get an idea about these
10:37players. Before they really can
10:39put an imprint. Or a battle
10:41plan ahead. As to how to attack
10:44the off season. And what they
10:46need. Yeah. It's interesting
10:48too. Because. You know. Each
10:50player obviously. Is it's own
10:52individual case by case basis.
10:54Cole Strange is the only year
10:55three player that he mentioned.
10:58You know. Unless. I mean.
10:58Taekwon Thornton would have been
10:59the only third year receiver in
11:01that group. But as you mentioned
11:02he's gone. So. You have a bigger
11:03sample with Cole Strange. 17
11:06careers. Excuse me. 27 career
11:07starts. You know. Even if he's
11:09going to get a little bit
11:10better. It's probably not leaps
11:11and bounds at this point. You
11:13look at a guy like Kayshun
11:14Booty. Also had a year two leap.
11:15It's been small. But probably
11:16tracking for a career as a
11:17receiver four. Number receiver
11:19five. Then you go to the
11:20rookies. Those are the only
11:21players that I hear Gerard say
11:23this and go. Specifically in
11:24guys like Caden Wallace's case.
11:26I really don't know much yet.
11:28Right. Like. I feel pretty
11:29confident. What it looks like.
11:31So far for Jalen Polk. It's not
11:32that he can't get better. I
11:33mean. There's only one direction
11:35for him to go. Based on his
11:36game day. But there's a larger
11:37sample there that tells me. And
11:39with Jayvon Baker. That sample
11:40is not on the field. But it's
11:41certainly in practice. It's
11:43certainly off the field. And in
11:44concert with everything we knew
11:46about him before the draft. And
11:47why some teams just. Took him
11:48completely off their draft
11:49boards. I kind of know who that
11:51guy is. But players who haven't
11:53played a whole lot. Or in
11:54positions like offensive tackle
11:56where. That year two leap is
11:57significant. Because really
11:58rookie offensive linemen. Even
11:59top five. Top ten picks aren't
12:00very good. That's what's
12:02intriguing to me. I think
12:03you're going to learn more about
12:04them. Over these last five
12:05games. Then you will. Guys like
12:08Cole Strange. Or maybe even
12:09Leighton Robinson. Who to your
12:10point. He's going to play left
12:11guard. It looks like. On Sunday.
12:13Even if he fails. I don't think
12:14that tells me anything. Or if
12:16he succeeds. Because it's just
12:17a one game sample. For a guy
12:18that's really kind of ridden a
12:19roller coaster this year. Yeah.
12:21Yeah. I agree with all that.
12:23But getting back to Cole
12:24Strange for second. A lot of
12:27his work. While he was rehabbing
12:30was done. Playing center. And
12:34with David Andrews. Not a
12:36guarantee for next year. You
12:40know. If Cole Strange can be
12:43either a good backup. Or
12:44someone who could potentially
12:46take over. For you know. They
12:48need David Andrews replacement.
12:51And. You have to see. Can Cole
12:57Strange handle that. You know.
12:59Before you go hog wild. Bringing
13:02in centers. I think. It's a good
13:04point. Ben Brown is fine. But I
13:08don't. I don't foresee him being
13:12the. Either the future. Center
13:15of their future. After. After
13:19David. Or the future backup.
13:22Yeah. Real quick aside. And
13:24then we're going to get to
13:25Brobuck Peppers. Because you
13:27had the best reporting about
13:28Jabril's situation. As it
13:30happened today. And this is a
13:30big storyline this week in
13:31Foxborough. Ben Brown was
13:33holding court in the locker
13:34room. And I don't know if these
13:35two things are connected. But
13:36there was a prank. Some of the
13:38rookie offensive linemen played
13:39on Jotham Russell. Who's
13:41practice squad pass rusher.
13:42He's from Australia. And there
13:44was something involved with.
13:45Whether Ben Brown was involved
13:47or not. But I learned this soon
13:48after seeing him hold court in
13:49the locker room today. Jotham
13:51Russell was instructed and did
13:54say the pledge of allegiance at
13:55Thanksgiving. Believing that
13:56was part of the Thanksgiving
13:57American holiday. So he stood
13:59up and started saying it. On
14:00his lonesome. This poor
14:02Australian. Hanging out with
14:03some teammates. Who had some
14:04good fun at his expense. Anyway
14:06Jabril Peppers. He was removed
14:08from the commissioner's exam
14:09list on Monday. On Tuesday. The
14:12Patriots welcome him back into
14:14the building. And Gerard. You
14:15know. Answers. I think it was
14:17close to ten questions. From us
14:19on Tuesday morning. Because they
14:20moved everything up. Due to the
14:21holiday. And in that press
14:22conference. Said he's going to
14:24practice. I don't know if he'll
14:25play yet. We don't still know
14:27here on Friday. If Jabril's
14:28going to play. But if I had to
14:29bet. I would say he would. And
14:30beyond that. Didn't really take
14:32ownership of a decision. That
14:34was clear. Right? Either the
14:35Patriots had enough information.
14:37From the seven weeks. That has
14:38been he's away. For facing
14:40charges of assault. Assault
14:42battery with a dangerous weapon.
14:43Strangulation. And a minor. You
14:45know. Possession charge. For
14:47cocaine. His quote was. It is
14:48cocaine. When it was discovered
14:49on his person. Or. They're
14:52going to operate. By the fact
14:54that. In this country. And I
14:57think this is the right
14:57approach. Frankly. Broad.
14:59Philosophy. Philosophically.
15:01Innocent until proven guilty.
15:03And so. My question. You know.
15:05Was okay. Why didn't they just
15:07take ownership of this? And I
15:08wrote. It seems they're
15:09confident. Because once he
15:11comes off the commissioner's
15:12exempt list. The Patriots can
15:13do what they want. Like he's
15:14available to be on their active
15:15roster. They can say. You can
15:16go home. Continue what is
15:18essentially paid leave. Or you
15:19can come back. You can practice
15:21and play. But right now. The
15:21ball is in their court. And
15:22what they chose to do. Was not
15:24run a play that the NFL. Gave
15:26them. Which is kind of how
15:27Gerard described it. It was. To
15:29put. Jabril. In a set. For now
15:32it's practice. It could be a
15:33game on Sunday. And they're
15:34good with that. Which to me
15:35said. Given the crass history
15:36and the hard line they've taken
15:37against domestic violence.
15:39Given what they said at the
15:40beginning. We're going to
15:41investigate here. And what
15:42Jabril told us. Tuesday
15:43afternoon. Which is that his
15:45legal team has cooperated with
15:46the NFL. And he himself has
15:48spoken with ownership. Whatever
15:49those conversations were. The
15:51Patriots are confident enough.
15:52That he could be. Exonerated.
15:54Now. Whether that confidence is
15:56warranted or not. Remains to be
15:58seen. But for now. That was my
16:01read on the situation. And lo
16:02and behold. I should have just
16:03read your reporting. Which said.
16:06Yes sir that's a fact. And I
16:07can tell you. Per sources. So.
16:10Fill in the blanks. What do we
16:12know. What can you do to
16:12advance. What I just said. And
16:14what most people know about
16:15this story and situation. Well
16:16first of all. I came away from.
16:19Gerard Mayo's. Press conference.
16:22Answering or not answering. Ten
16:24questions or whatever it was.
16:27With more questions. Yes. He
16:32basically laid it at the lap
16:34well he's off the exempt list so
16:35he's playing. And replaying in
16:38my mind. As he's saying this
16:41over and over and over again.
16:43Was the press conference they
16:45had. When. Jabril was put on.
16:49The exempt list. Gerard talking
16:52about how serious the charges
16:54were him having two daughters.
16:57You know. They're gonna you
17:00know they're gonna conduct
17:01their own investigation I was
17:03thinking back to Robert Kraft
17:05being on the breakfast club
17:07show whatever that was. And
17:09looking at the police report
17:11and the charges and saying he
17:13wanted to puke. After you know
17:16after seeing those charges. And
17:19from that picture in my mind.
17:22To Gerard just saying well he's
17:23off the exempt list now so.
17:27Welcome back. So again. I like
17:30you. Are in the innocent until
17:33proven guilty. Category but I
17:38sort of needed to fill in some
17:39blanks. So after that after
17:42hearing peppers. I did a little
17:45investigating with some people
17:47in the organization. Let's say.
17:50And several of them told me.
17:53That. They they had done their
17:57own investigation. And they
18:00were they were satisfied with.
18:03How that turned out to the
18:05point that they would allow him
18:07back. They were also. Going off
18:11of the league's investigation.
18:14And what their finding was. So
18:19I think that gave them
18:20confidence. To to say. Come on
18:25back you know. As to why they
18:27couldn't say it. I think it
18:29did couldn't just say well
18:31we're we're happy with our
18:32investigation. I'm told that
18:35that they could not. Because of
18:38of the pending case. So right
18:43and there's there's a couple
18:44things here one I want to back
18:45up and say that in. A great
18:47majority of these cases like
18:49statistically across the
18:50country. Across recent history.
18:53Cases like this come up. The
18:56accusations are verified that
18:58very very few instances. Are
19:01women. Filing these charges
19:03making these accusations and
19:05having it be a complete lie or
19:07fabricated. Okay so when
19:09peppers is accused of these
19:10things only be serious. But in
19:12all likelihood. He is guilty in
19:14some form or fashion okay.
19:16That's number one and so that's
19:17obviously. You're taking it
19:19serious based on the charges
19:20are but also the history of how
19:21these things typically go even
19:22though. When you look in places
19:24like the internet. And
19:25specifically people with the
19:26Patriots logo. In their avatar.
19:28Oh it's fake. Because I want my
19:30football player back. This is
19:31BS just looking for money and
19:33his career whatever which is
19:34also what Jibril told the
19:35police. And again whether
19:36they're patriots apparent
19:38confidence which is what we're
19:38talking about. Is warranted.
19:40Whether their investigation was
19:42good enough. Whether they do
19:43have all of the facts. We don't
19:45know. Okay so that is
19:46categorically my stance I
19:48believe is yours as well.
19:49Because number two. The
19:51Patriots investigation probably
19:53largely consists of the
19:54evidence which his lawyer has
19:56claimed to be a video.
19:57Exonerating him or or
19:59contradicting what her claims
20:00are. To an extent we don't know
20:02which of all of the claims
20:03include him allegedly choking
20:04her. Slamming her head against
20:05the wall at least six times. We
20:07don't have the specifics but
20:08there's also real no reason for
20:10her defense team. To play ball
20:12here. They know the NFL's
20:13coming at this from a place of
20:15all not just. Pure morals. And
20:17trying to deliver justice here.
20:19Their interest is self interest
20:21in protecting their player. And
20:23the shield in any allegations
20:24against this which doesn't say
20:25they don't punish players who do
20:26bad things. But in this
20:28instance. Why would I share that
20:29with you. Knowing you could
20:31twist this or leak certain
20:32things that might damage my
20:33case even if it's only in the
20:34public. Court of opinion so if
20:36you don't have the defense team.
20:37Evidence or whatever they're
20:38alleging which is probably
20:39happened by now. By the way. In
20:41a pre trial conference and
20:42there's a joke. A date set for
20:43January twenty second. You don't
20:45have the whole picture. The
20:46point is. As you reported. I
20:48surmised. The Patriots are
20:50happy enough we'll see if it
20:51burns them if not in the
20:52meantime. To bro peppers is
20:54back. And I would I would guess
20:56is gonna play all five games
20:57what do you think happens next.
20:58Yeah I mean. Gerard wouldn't say
21:01definitively. That. Debris was
21:04going to play but it seemed to
21:06be trending. Let's say trending
21:09toward that happening. But I do
21:11want to say that. And talking
21:14with. One of my colleagues Matt
21:16mature. We both thought. Okay
21:22it it's one thing to be
21:23standing by. What your in house.
21:28Investigation provided. But you
21:32better be darn well confident
21:34because- if you're bill peppers
21:38is eventually found guilty. I
21:41mean. It's egg on their face it
21:45brings back and again two
21:47different completely different
21:49situations. It brings back to
21:52mind Aaron Hernandez. And
21:54Robert Kraft in the dynasty.
22:00Docu series saying he was duped.
22:04And he was going to be damned if
22:06he was ever duped again. By
22:08another player. Right so
22:13obviously. Robert Kraft spoke to
22:16gibberell peppers. To bro pepper
22:19said whatever he had to say.
22:21Whatever the investigation.
22:24Turned up. Satisfied the
22:27patriots enough to welcome him
22:29back. But again. If this cut
22:33kind of history keeps repeating
22:35that they trust the player. And
22:38then. You know come to find out
22:41later on yeah he was guilty of
22:43this. Awful domestic violence
22:46case throwing a woman down
22:48stairs and beating her I mean.
22:53And that kind of makes you think
22:54that boy they they had to be
22:56pretty sure. You you do are
22:58absolutely right you certainly
22:59hope so and again like just like
23:01the NFL the patriots interest is
23:03for all of this to be
23:04fabricated like whatever Robert
23:05says like there's a reason for
23:07them to be performative. About
23:09oh my gosh how bad this is and
23:10of course we're not holding him
23:12is this kind of moral standard.
23:14You know someone all the line
23:15draws Robert Kraft like there
23:17are plenty of other issues that
23:18are unrelated just like you know
23:20the Aaron Hernandez case you
23:21brought up. Very different
23:22situation so I don't want anyone
23:23coming after like oh my god
23:24they're not the same thing of
23:25course. Right but they're not
23:29But the point being that the
23:31idea like this should go beyond
23:34I believe the player. This
23:35should certainly go beyond I
23:36believe the lawyer he's employed
23:38to keep him out of jail. That
23:39guy has a job to do that guy's
23:40going to say what he needs to do
23:42that's just how lawyering works.
23:43This should go into hard
23:44evidence whatever they have even
23:46if it's obviously going to be
23:47incomplete. Seem persuasive to
23:49them that doesn't need to be
23:50persuasive to you or to me or
23:52anyone listening. But I think
23:53that just about wraps because
23:54Rob Peppers is gonna play
23:55football. It's a hard pivot from
23:57where we were seven weeks ago
23:58when he first went away and
23:59their stance and everything
24:00which also could have been
24:01performative- but we'll see the
24:03what the one last I'll say
24:04though is this. Unlike the
24:06players we just talked about
24:08where all dried really needs to
24:09know more about. Lane Robinson
24:11Cole strange receivers and
24:12yada yada. Like to bro Peppers
24:14is a fully formed NFL player.
24:17There's no more discovery there
24:19he's a hard hitting safety
24:20ideally a box safety but a
24:22little free safety. But there's
24:24no incentive for them to. You
24:25want him on the field they want
24:26to win obviously a little bit
24:27but it's a little bit less than
24:28if they were let's say pushing
24:30for the playoffs- or even
24:32contending beyond that is that
24:34fair. Absolutely fair okay. I
24:38just mentioned a hard pivot are
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26:01point five yards this is a
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26:04Colts against tight ends. He is
26:05played well against the Colts
26:07recent matchups you can look
26:08this up. And I'm gonna go the
26:10one that I just threw out there
26:11Drake may more than point five
26:12touchdown passes because the
26:13kid is just going to get one
26:14I'm sorry. Actually I'm not
26:15sorry you're you're probably
26:16pretty happy about that. Here
26:18we go the Colts. Checking in on
26:20them they're five and seven.
26:21Twenty first overall by D. B.
26:23away twenty first an offense
26:25sixteen on defense their last
26:27four games a twenty four to six
26:29home loss to the Lions no shame
26:30in that. A twenty eight to
26:32twenty seven win at the Jets
26:34because everyone's doing it now
26:35the Pats the Colts last second
26:37just. Shanks just- before that
26:39a thirty twenty loss. Versus
26:41Buffalo before that twenty one
26:43to thirteen loss at Minnesota
26:45the Patriots three and nine.
26:46Now the worst team in the league
26:49going to be B. O. A. you might
26:50disagree I think I would thirty
26:52first an offense thirtieth on
26:54defense so I say to you between
26:56two. Bad teams Gary Green what
26:59interests you most about this
27:01football game. Seeing the
27:07Patriots approach. I mean you
27:11know are are they really going
27:13to do what Gerard Mayo said and
27:16have us get a start getting a
27:19better look at some of these
27:20players. Or because they're home
27:23against an opponent that they
27:25that they might think they have
27:27a chance to be. Whether they go
27:31well this is going to sound all
27:33odd go all out for the win- you
27:37know by putting Jabril peppers
27:40in there you know by. You know
27:42by having Kendrick Bourne play
27:45more more of the snaps- than
27:48Jalen Polk and- Yvonne Baker-
27:53and again that's that kind of
27:54tricky fine balance you know I
27:57think. I think the Patriots
27:59would like to. You know kind of
28:02privately Mayo. Would like to
28:05have as many wins is last year's
28:07team which is for nothing to
28:10brag about. But if you look at
28:13the rest of the schedule the
28:14rest of the way. This might be
28:17the easier. Of the remaining
28:20five opponents oh it is on
28:24doubt Lisa with with with two
28:25Buffalo Buffalo games on tap
28:28and who knows if they're gonna
28:29be playing for the top seed or
28:31or what. So I'm gonna be
28:36curious to see exactly how they
28:40make that balance of you know
28:43playing the regulars or trying
28:46to trying to get more Intel on
28:49these players that they don't
28:51know about. I like it it it
28:54it's interesting to because
28:55Gerard you know we we gave the
28:56three nuggets earlier. One thing
28:58that stuck out to me was his.
29:01Not insistence but his mention
29:02of the fact that again Hey we're
29:05laying the foundation you can't
29:06rebuild unless you have a
29:07foundation upon which. To build
29:10so this works so that is their
29:12attitude which tells me as I
29:14wrote and said here about a
29:15month ago. Hey they're gonna
29:16play the kids this is where the
29:18page turns. Out of the playoff
29:19race second half of the season
29:21these kids are gonna play. But
29:23at the same time culture. Relies
29:25on the results the by you're
29:26able to cultivate like proof of
29:28concept. And okay you've only
29:31lost two in a row here the Rams
29:32the Dolphins but the second one.
29:33Was such a step back that had
29:35all of us going oh my god it
29:36does raise the question of. As
29:37you're saying. Play the vets try
29:39to win. Or continue to rebuild
29:41latest foundation. Which also
29:43just. Even work like if the
29:45kids are bad. It's not helping
29:47anything now or later. Right
29:50you know I hearken back to.
29:52Bill Parcells first year and
29:54bill Belichick's first year.
29:57People don't probably don't
29:59remember it's like. Parcells
30:01was one in eleven. The savior
30:04bill was one in eleven to start
30:07that first season of his. And
30:10then they went on they won those
30:12last four games. To kind of
30:15build some momentum into are you
30:17know at least more positive
30:20thoughts more you know they
30:21showed progress. Whereas in the
30:24next year they won like ten
30:26games and were in the playoffs.
30:28So you got to tip to feel or
30:31see a little bit of that.
30:34Progress building momentum
30:37heading into the you know into
30:39the second year of bill
30:40Parcells existence and he was
30:43definitely under the rebuild.
30:47Category maybe not so much when
30:50bill Belichick took over. But
30:55he wasn't that great that first
30:57year his team that Patriots team
30:59that finished five and eleven.
31:02Didn't start out so great but I
31:04think they want three of their
31:05last six or most of their wins
31:07came in the say in the bottom.
31:10Year of the schedule and that
31:13and guess what happened the year
31:14after that. Andrew quiz. Yeah
31:18they they got into the playoffs
31:20and won the Super Bowl. So so it
31:23is important building that
31:25culture culture setting the
31:27foundation showing signs of
31:29progress. You know in progress
31:33you equate with wins you know
31:36heading into your heading into
31:37your next season. Yeah these are
31:39two separate things right and
31:41we'll we'll get into you know
31:42three to one three matchups two
31:44keys one wildcard thought we'll
31:45get out with a game pick. But
31:47the point about culture and
31:48foundation. It goes both ways
31:50that you need to have winning
31:52habits. Before you actually win
31:55but in order to reinforce that
31:57these are winning habits in the
31:58first place. There need to be
32:00results that show that. So for
32:03players it could be you know
32:05progress individually I'm
32:06getting better I see this I feel
32:08it I know it on tape. Or the
32:10team having a surprise win or
32:12closing a game that they've
32:14really not been able to close
32:15say for that Jets comeback win.
32:16And that's it which again the
32:17jet everyone to in the jets now
32:19the other team they've been
32:20since. Chicago just fired its
32:22head coach today and the day
32:23after losing to the Patriots for
32:24two days fire their offensive
32:25coordinator so that's what
32:26happens to you when you lose to
32:28the Patriots. You fall apart
32:30instantly top down but- it's
32:33culture is just habits and
32:35attitudes. That's all it is
32:36that there's no magical one
32:38there's no secret sauce. It's
32:39what are you doing day to day
32:40how often does that. Produce
32:42these type of results. And it's
32:44a it's a full circle thing all
32:45right. I one quick thing for me
32:48and then what I want to know
32:49your matchup is because a lot
32:50here that are really key
32:50battlegrounds I think they could
32:51kind of swing the war that that
32:53will be Sunday. Drake may
32:54discipline. Is something I
32:56talked about a lot of my last
32:57episode because he's got eleven
32:58turnovers right now. And ten
33:00touchdown passes okay. And what
33:02you've seen of these turnovers
33:04are not just of the- dumb kid
33:06rookie mistake kind of. Garden
33:07variety. It's been the same we
33:09saw it North Carolina his last
33:11year. The hero ball I need to
33:13make this throw I can make this
33:15throw I'm overcoming that
33:16protection and receivers don't
33:18get open this is me overcoming
33:20that I'll do it all on my own
33:21because I think I have to. And
33:23instead the ball goes the other
33:24team or fumbles or whatever
33:26might happen. And the Patriots
33:28seem to get that out of him in
33:29the first four to five games
33:30when you have turnovers but they
33:31want this Yolo ball hero ball
33:33attitude. The Colts play a lot
33:35of zone. They don't let's when
33:37they do they like to bring the
33:38defensive backs. To me Karen
33:40that's the shift we seen
33:41defenses take with Drake may.
33:43And I think that consistency-
33:45is good test his discipline.
33:47Because ideally the by week
33:48would be now it's not next week.
33:50But can he make a small U. turn
33:52for what I see is granted. Some
33:54games are down thirty one
33:55nothing you got to take chances
33:56that's not what I'm saying. Can
33:57he be a little bit more the
33:58Drake maybe saw. Earlier this
34:00year. Yeah that's a huge
34:03question and are these bad fit
34:06habits forming. Because of the
34:10situation he's in. You know
34:13yes he yes he tended to be play
34:15hero ball but- has that like
34:20grown because he really has to
34:22play hero ball in this
34:23situation because it he's it.
34:26There's nobody else. And I
34:28think to a different degree you
34:31saw that with Matt Jones. The
34:34difference is Matt Jones
34:35doesn't doesn't have the
34:36ability that Drake may has. You
34:39know. Matt Jones thrown across
34:42his body to the other side of
34:44the field when he's on running
34:45to the right I mean. That was
34:47like criminal for him. Really
34:51stupid for him to be ahead of
34:53Karen. But yet he yet that's
34:55what he was trying to do to to
34:57try and lift the team that was
34:59liftless. Basically Drake may
35:02has the ability to make those
35:05type of sensational plays I
35:07think you're right I think he
35:09needs to pick his spots better.
35:12But the other part that's a
35:13little concerning to me is he's
35:15like careless with the ball. In
35:18terms of you know that that
35:20sack fumble. You know he was.
35:24Trying to get out of the way
35:25but when you're trying to get
35:26out of the way you don't leave
35:28the ball. Hanging out in your
35:31right hand. You know I think he
35:34can fix those things I mean
35:37he's a fast learner he's a good
35:39learner. And I I think. You
35:43know I think he will be better
35:45about it. But by the same token
35:48you you don't want to totally
35:50take away. That quality in him
35:55that's a bit of a gunslinger.
35:58You know because he can make
35:59those plays. But he just has to
36:02learn. The time to do that you
36:05know the timing of it. In the
36:08situation. Yeah it's a fine
36:10line and there he's got more
36:11done his plate than he should
36:13and in those situations where
36:14he is creating. He's still
36:16among the more efficient
36:17creators when you look at stick
36:19quarterbacks who are past their
36:20first read and they get outside
36:22of the pocket like usually you
36:23lose some efficiency the more
36:25that you do this. But the elite
36:27best quarterbacks in the league
36:28right now. Patrick Mahomes Josh
36:29Allen's even. Jalen Hurts not
36:31historically but this season has
36:32been really good. Lamar Jackson
36:35obviously. Like those are the
36:37elite guys that are creating
36:38he's doing that and maintaining
36:40his efficiency in a way that you
36:41would say about an NBA team. Oh
36:43when so and so even Kobe Bryant
36:45at the peak of his powers was
36:46running isolation offense. Like
36:47the Lakers defense took a hit
36:49okay I should have given the
36:50Paul Pierce description. But
36:51like generally isolation
36:52offense. Is more inefficient
36:54you're not rooting for that.
36:55It's what happens at the end of
36:56games. But you can't build the
36:57whole plane out of that. And so
36:59even if the numbers are still
37:00good. He's he's at such a point
37:02in his career. You need to build
37:04the habits that fixes footwork
37:06to begin with. That had him
37:07playing. Not more conservatively
37:09but taking a profit when it was
37:10there. And again a lot of this
37:11is. Is motivated by circumstance
37:13the fact that they're behind he
37:14doesn't have protection. It's
37:16not a wagging his finger. The
37:17point is I hope the Patriots
37:18don't drag him back in the way
37:20they also help prop him up. With
37:21these better habits in the first
37:23place. Alright specific to the
37:24Colts give me one- matchup that
37:26you're watching on Sunday.
37:29Anthony Richardson versus the
37:31defense. Okay. Period. Big ones
37:33good one. He's I think he has
37:37like eight. Passing touchdowns
37:40and seven rushing touchdowns.
37:43And while the Patriots have
37:46faced a few mobile quarterbacks
37:47in there nothing like this guy.
37:51There are their offense half of
37:53it is design runs for him. So
37:57he he's gonna run he's a he's a
37:59big guy. And the Patriots have
38:03had a hard enough time stopping
38:06running games in particular. But
38:09if you add this quarterback into
38:11the mix. Again he might be able
38:16to be beat them single handed.
38:19Single handedly. Unless he gets
38:21tired and has to take a playoff
38:23or two here there you know from
38:25all the running. Running he's
38:28going to blow care. Well I'm
38:32sorry. It's true. They got a
38:35bench the next week yeah it did
38:37happen. But I I would be
38:40concerned that- you know they
38:44they fixed some of their edge
38:46issues and holding the edge but
38:49they haven't been consistent
38:51with it. So we'll see what
38:55Anthony Richardson can do or
38:57what kind of plan they have to
38:59negate his threat. It's a it's
39:03a good I mean this is like a
39:04matchup the key this might be
39:05just the whole game unto itself
39:07right like you're not expecting
39:08the Patriots offense. Bottom
39:10five scoring the entire NFL did
39:11pop off. Against Cole so let's
39:13say that they get to. Twenty
39:15degeneracy gets twenty points.
39:17What do you need to do then to
39:18hold the calls under that. And
39:20it is as I asked today is this
39:22a GTFB game. Get the F. back as
39:25Belichick used to say all the
39:26time to safety yes. He leads the
39:28league in yards per completion
39:30it's fifteen point eight it's
39:31insane. Yeah nobody's not
39:34throwing the ball deep he's
39:35doing exactly as you said. It's
39:36a quarterback run game. So he's
39:38a second leading rusher by
39:39design or sometimes scrambling
39:40is a very fundamental game.
39:42Keep him in the pocket. Make
39:44sure you're the deepest player
39:46on the field at all times over
39:47the Patriots defense are you
39:48have the deepest player. And
39:50that's it. If you just wait him
39:51out. He's gonna pull the pin.
39:53Hold the grenade. And implode.
39:55With one of eleven fumbles that
39:57he's got this year. Or the
39:58interceptions that you
39:59mentioned. You just have to do
40:01the simple things well stay back
40:02deep. And keep in the pocket is
40:04that too simple. Well we thought
40:07some of those game plans were
40:08simple for others. Miami's got
40:12the shifts in the motions in
40:13your eyes over here. But yes you
40:18know it would help if the
40:20defense again. Played well that
40:23you know. This guy's along with
40:26having a great rifle for an arm
40:29and can run all day long. As you
40:32said he's in these interception
40:34pros well the Patriots have had
40:36like. Created just two turnovers
40:39in the last six games or
40:40something ridiculous like that.
40:42Their turnover numbers are way
40:44down. Yeah two and six. So I
40:47think. You know again. He's a
40:51young quarterback if you get
40:53him into making mistakes they
40:55tend to multiply. So you know.
41:00Pick off a pass force a fumble
41:02do something. Just to you know
41:04just to kind of knock him off
41:06of getting. On a roll and in a
41:09rhythm you know where he can
41:11just basically pick you apart.
41:14All right two more matchups and
41:15I want to get to your key- for
41:16me Alec Pearson Michael Pittman
41:18junior six three. And six four
41:21versus one of Marcus Jones for
41:22Jonathan Jones five eight and
41:24five nine respectively is a big
41:26problem so Anthony Richardson
41:28yes as a completion percentage
41:29below fifty. He's got more
41:31interceptions than touchdown he
41:32fumbles a lot the dude. Knows
41:34who to throw to and with Josh
41:36downs out. So far right now-
41:38because he's not gonna play
41:39Coltsley receiver. Works over
41:41the middle field he's gonna go
41:42outside to his big giant targets
41:44against Patriots little corners.
41:45How often they play man how
41:47often they matched up. And you
41:48throw enough jump balls enough
41:49fifty fifty balls. They're gonna
41:51come down with one or two so
41:52it's a big matchup for me the
41:53second one is on. Offense for
41:55the Patriots because like I said
41:57even if they just get to twenty.
41:58They're gonna real problems in
42:00the middle of the line. DeForest
42:01Buckner. It's been Brent.
42:04DeForest Buckner a eats against
42:05Patriots every single year.
42:07Because that's what they played
42:08them the last the last three
42:09years in a row. And he only has
42:11four and a half sacks is pine
42:12queen pays got five and a half.
42:13He's a higher sack percentage.
42:15Okay based on games played. And
42:17he's a freaking stud. So I'm on
42:19the Colts you play a lot of.
42:21Even fronts lot of four down.
42:22But when they get into obvious
42:23passing situations. They'll put
42:25one over the center with a guard.
42:27And over the tackle. And then
42:28one defensive end of the opposite
42:30side to get him. Theoretically a
42:32one oh one if not one's left.
42:34If I'm the Colts. I play that
42:37front. Or version of it. All the
42:39time. Put pressure on Ben Brown.
42:41A small center against DeForest
42:42Buckner. Or Lane Robinson and
42:44pass protection. Because it's a
42:45problem the Patriots need to
42:46have an answer for. And not just
42:47an answer probably plan B and C
42:49and maybe D. Yeah I. You're
42:52preaching to the choir. I can't
42:54argue with any of that. That
42:55those those things were on my
42:57list too. I just wanted to pick
43:01the sexier one. Go ahead. No you
43:03did. Key to the game. Patriots
43:06have to do this one thing. And
43:07it's not score more points. And
43:09you can do the turnover thing
43:10which is fair. But what what's
43:12the one key to this game for
43:13them. Well it it revolves around
43:17what you just said. They have to
43:18protect Drake. Because again as
43:23we've seen. You know him having
43:25to constantly leave the pocket.
43:30Or him having to constantly try
43:32and get away from free rushers.
43:36Has led to mistakes. Right. So
43:39and you know it's kind of the
43:41overall thing. They have to sort
43:42of win the turnover battle. So
43:45you know that's one of them.
43:47They have to stay on side.
43:49That's another one. But you
43:52know ultimately. They the
43:55offensive line has to protect
43:57better. You know let the kid
44:02have a chance to make plays.
44:04You know that aren't these all
44:06worldly plays that he's that
44:08they're forcing him to have to
44:11make. Because I think he can be
44:13pretty darn good if he gets a
44:15few seconds in the pocket. Sits
44:17back there reads the field and
44:18throws the ball. I mean I think
44:21he he has that ability too. We
44:23just haven't been able to see
44:24much of it. Because he's
44:26constantly having to run away.
44:30To avoid sacks. Or just to try
44:33to make a play. It's probably
44:37the most salient point. It's
44:38just going against an average
44:40defense. Against a run in the
44:41past. I've just given up on the
44:43idea that the Patriots can get
44:44to 30 points or 27 or 24. So I
44:45just I just say I've accepted
44:47low 20s. High teens. Which to
44:49me points back to the defense.
44:50Because to to your point. Back
44:52up for a second. I would love to
44:54go hey you gotta go tempo.
44:55Right like you can't block
44:56these guys. You gotta tire them
44:58out. They're gonna play that
44:59same four down front. Like go a
45:00little no huddle. See what
45:01happens. But what happened last
45:03week. At a very normal regular
45:05speed. Was five pre snap
45:07penalties on offense the first
45:08half. Can't go fast. If you
45:10don't know how to go slow.
45:12Can't run. So you learn how to
45:13walk. So I went defense. I've
45:16already said it. GTFB. You
45:18cannot let out Pierce or Michael
45:20Pittman Junior. Beat down the
45:21field. Adonai Mitchell. Also
45:23hanging around. Second round
45:24pick of the Texas. Big fast
45:26dudes. You gotta have answers.
45:28Christian Gonzalez World Race
45:29one. What are you doing the
45:30other side of the field. And.
45:31Are you sure. I saw a whole. I
45:34saw a whole game against the
45:36Rams where. He didn't go
45:38against. Their top two guys.
45:39Well I did say one side of the
45:41field. You know. He'll be.
45:43Whether it's. You know what I
45:44mean. Like. Unless they're
45:45gonna. Put them all in a stack
45:47or a bunch. You know. Which the
45:48Rams also did a ton of them.
45:49I wonder why. You think they're
45:50too negative. I can't. I can't
45:53right now. Anyway. Get the.
45:55Back. That is my key to the
45:56game. Wild card thought. I. I'm
45:59excited to hear what you say on
46:00this. Because you know the rule
46:01for this is it's anything
46:02tangential to the game. It
46:03could be off the field. Could
46:05be historical. As long as you
46:06say Patriots or Colts. It
46:07counts. But one thought we
46:09haven't talked about. About
46:10this game. The coaches. Beyond
46:14Gerard Mayo. I mean I think.
46:17Despite the record. Despite how
46:18it's looked. I. I cannot see.
46:21The crafts. Let him go. After
46:24one year. Right. But. God we
46:28just. Saw what happened in
46:29Chicago. With. A head coach
46:32who. Had no clue. No idea what
46:33clock management was at the end
46:35of a game. But. That being said.
46:40Gerard. I believe has to take a
46:43look at his own staff. As well.
46:46Does. Demarcus Covington need
46:49help. Does. Alex Van is Alex
46:53Van Pelt. The guy he wants
46:56leading Drake May over the next
46:58few years. You know. I think
47:03Gerard has to has to come to
47:05grips with. You know perhaps
47:08some changes being. You know.
47:12Needing to be made. But I think
47:16I mean he said. Earlier in the
47:18week that everyone's being
47:20evaluated. Well I hope that
47:23that means he's evaluating to
47:26his coaching staff. Going
47:29forward in the next five games
47:31let me put it to you like this.
47:33In a very twenty twenty four
47:34sports podcast way over under.
47:37Three and a half assistants gone
47:39heading into next year over
47:40under half a coordinator. Gone
47:44heading into next season. I'm
47:50gonna go. Over now I'm gonna go
47:56under on the assistance. And
48:00over on the coordinator okay
48:03all right. My wild card thought
48:05is completely self indulgent
48:07this is going to be my one
48:08hundredth game covering the
48:10Patriots in person. Underscore
48:12in person regular season or
48:14postseason which I know for you
48:15has a second making you think
48:17how many games it's been- you
48:19don't have to give an answer or
48:21guess but I just- you know in
48:23the spirit of the week and
48:25exceptionally. Grateful and
48:26thankful and that is something I
48:28said to you at the top which you
48:29know that there's nothing I can
48:30say now that I haven't told you.
48:32Off the air or you know in
48:33person and just. How long we
48:35work together but even my star
48:36at mass live with Jim Pignatello
48:38and- you know working with.
48:40Nick O'Malley and that Matt
48:41Vautour and all those guys it's
48:42just been. An incredible ride
48:46and it's one of those numbers
48:46that makes a pause makes a stop
48:48and I had to count and figure it
48:49out because COVID eight into
48:50this number quite a lot twenty
48:51twenty we didn't travel. As you
48:52know with the Herald always in
48:54twenty twenty one. We're back at
48:55in twenty twenty two and twenty
48:56twenty three. You miss a game
48:58here there for a wedding- but it
49:00just. I don't take a whole lot
49:03of time generally to sit and
49:04reflect on anything and- this is
49:06making me do that and- feeling
49:08is overwhelming gratitude so
49:09thank you for being there for
49:10for more than half of those and-
49:12you know just just help along
49:14the way. That's a it's a big
49:15number. It is- and just to add
49:19to that. From my own side- I've
49:23been around a little longer. A
49:25little over under five and a
49:26half five hundred. Well I've
49:30been covering sports for about
49:32forty years for zero. It's my
49:38phone getting very excited to
49:39hear you say that. Is that
49:40applause. I was reminded radio
49:43I'm not supposed to do today
49:44anyway just let me. With more
49:46annoying sounds. I couldn't
49:47have dropped into the Boston
49:50sports scene. Parachuted in at
49:53a during a better forty year
49:56span- and that includes you
50:00know it's almost like book
50:01ending. The bookends were boy
50:04everyone was terrible when I
50:05started in. Boy most of the
50:08teams are bad now. But the time
50:11in between. I mean I literally
50:13covered the entire. Belichick
50:16Brady run for those twenty
50:18years. I all but maybe one or
50:20two games. Out of that twenty
50:22year span that's insane. I was
50:25earning Reese. I yeah maybe
50:27Perlow and- that's it. I was
50:30there I was just watching the
50:32Red Sox series on Netflix. And
50:37I was at all those games when
50:39they came back. To beat the
50:41Yankees and when that first
50:43World Series. I mean so that
50:46you know between that. I was
50:48there for Bruins winnings
50:50Stanley Cup I was there when
50:52the Celtic I was just there
50:53last year. But the Celtics one
50:56can you know covering not a
50:57spectator. Covering these
50:59events. And I feel so
51:04incredibly blessed- to be
51:08doing what I'm doing and forty
51:10years later still loving what
51:12I'm doing. Good we love having
51:15you- I don't know how many
51:16people are sick of hearing us
51:17but- this is the week. The
51:19people and- also blessed for
51:21everyone who's been listening.
51:22The thousands on listeners and-
51:24viewers and just. Really
51:25appreciate it it's a fun form
51:27where you know. Typical fashion
51:29until you are a camera going.
51:30Hard cap thirty five minutes and
51:31whether it's you. Or Ted
51:33Johnson- I draw out the longest
51:35and most hot air. Out of anyone
51:37across from me because we've
51:38gone over fifty one now. So
51:40let's get out on this let's get
51:41out on the game pick. And then
51:43we will not have a long winded
51:44goodbye. It will just be very
51:45quick. So give me who do you
51:47think wins on Sunday. Well I'm
51:50gonna drop my pessimist cap and
51:52I'm gonna have the Patriots
51:54squeaking by. The Colts. Score
52:00out. Twenty three twenty. Nice
52:06I'm with you. And there are
52:08a lot of us last I checked
52:09over two and a half point
52:10underdogs at home. Nineteen
52:11sixteen it is sloppy as hell
52:13but they get to celebrate and
52:15laugh and joke. Much as they
52:16want locker room which they can
52:17always do I'm just gonna.
52:19Port about it. After the game
52:21but I'm sure Mark Daniels and
52:22Greg Bidart and I will get. A
52:24couple cracks or two which
52:25might happen this week as well.
52:27She's Karen Gregan reader as
52:29always reader sooner than I did
52:30this week but I'm so glad you
52:31could take time today after
52:32Thanksgiving. Dr peppers talk
52:34Pat's Colts is by we coming up
52:36much deserve for you I know I'm
52:37looking forward to it but more
52:38so looking forward to this game
52:39on Sunday should be fun. Thank
52:41you Karen. Thank you Andrew.