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When Imran offered to debate Modi on TV
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2/22/2022
"I know India better than most people." Imran Khan also said he wants to debate Narendra Modi on live TV. Should our PM accept his offer?
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Listen, I would love to debate with Marendar Modi on TV, but you know when when my party
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came into power in 2018, first thing I did was to reach out to India.
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So I immediately reached out.
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But then I discovered through my horror that this is not the India I used to know.
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It's not the India I used to know, it's not the India I used to love, it's not the India
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I used to hate, it's not the India I used to love, it's not the India I used to hate,
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it's not the India I used to love, it's not the India I used to hate, it's not the India
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I used to love, it's not the India I used to hate, it's not the India I used to hate,
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it's not the India I used to love, it's not the India I used to hate, it's not the India
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I used to love, it's not the India I used to hate, it's not the India I used to love.
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You have your own conflict to solve and it may be a very stupid question on my part but
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because we all know that, you know, bad peace is better than a good war.
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But still, historically, do you think it's better to leave a conflict in the limbo for
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decades on end?
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Or do you think issues should be solved when they are hot?
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You see, if humans want, they can solve any conflict.
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The problem is that the humans, the leaders, and I'm talking about the leaders, I'm sure
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people in Ukraine and in Russia, everyone understands that if there's a conflict, there
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will be consequences.
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Everyone will be worse.
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But it's not about the people.
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People on either side don't want this conflict to happen.
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Exactly.
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But I think that the leadership in the countries is then stuck.
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That if we withdraw from this position, what will be the consequences to us politically?
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Because politically there are consequences always.
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And I think it takes very powerful, great leaders who rise above this and who think
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about the effects on the human beings.
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I do want to ask you about great leadership, but very quickly, I know that you have tried
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to deal with your mutual grievances with India over Kashmir, and I'm sure you're not satisfied
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with the results of those efforts.
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Are you going to leave that issue to your successors, or are you still hoping to try
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something new?
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Do you know, when my party came into power in 2018, first thing I did was to reach out
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to India.
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And I told them, you know, our only issue is Kashmir, let's sit down on the table and
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resolve it.
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Let's have a roadmap.
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But I didn't realize, you know, and remember, I'm the one who knows India better than anyone
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because cricket is a passion, you know, in the subcontinent.
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And because of, you know, me being captain of cricket here and sort of playing lots of
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over 10 years against India, I know India better than most people.
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So I immediately reached out.
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But then I discovered, to my horror, that this is not the India I used to know, because
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it's been taken over by this mad ideology.
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It's a racist ideology, which was inspired by the Nazis.
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The founding fathers were inspired by the Nazis.
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You can Google on your phone and you can, the founding fathers praised the Nazis, racial
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superiority.
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And you see, there's a negative nationalism, there's a positive nationalism.
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You must distinguish between the two.
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I can inspire my people by saying, look, you were a great nation, let's now get back again.
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But if I say you were a great nation, but because of these other human communities,
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you could not reach the top, so shift the hatred towards them, there is always bloodshed.
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Prime Minister, I'm sure your counterpart in New Delhi would disagree, but if Prime Minister
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Modi wants to share his own views, we would be more than happy to travel to New Delhi
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and interview him on that very…
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Listen, listen, I would love to debate with Narendra Modi on TV.
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It would be so good for over a billion people on the subcontinent, if we can resolve our
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differences through a debate.
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