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Harrison Ford and Phoebe Waller-Bridge on Indiana Jones
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5/19/2023
"He's never been a perfect hero."
Harrison Ford and Phoebe Waller-Bridge talk about bidding farewell to the world's most famous archeologist in the final chapter of the franchise, "Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny," at Festival de Cannes.
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Give them hell, Indiana Jones!
00:06
One of the first lines that your character says to Elena is, whatever I said, I'm sorry.
00:14
Is that something your hero does?
00:16
He accepts his weaknesses and his flaws?
00:19
Yes, I think so.
00:23
Except, you know, he's still troubled by some of his domestic issues.
00:30
And he's in the midst of a very hard time.
00:39
And he is revivified by his relationship with the character that Phoebe plays.
00:45
Yeah, she gets him just at the right time.
00:48
For what she needs.
00:50
In what way do you think that the figure of the hero changed since the first Indiana Jones?
00:56
Well, he's never been a perfect hero.
00:59
At heart, he's a mixed character, you know?
01:04
There's a little larceny in him, in his soul, and in his pursuit of valuable archaeological
01:13
articles.
01:16
But there's also a soul to the man that we begin to understand in the first film.
01:25
But throughout the development of that character, I feel that each film has developed the character
01:31
in a way that advantages that character in the film.
01:37
And so I always wanted to see him at the end of his career, since we saw him, you know,
01:43
in his youth.
01:45
We've been making this film for 40 years.
01:49
What I love about the character, and all of the characters, and in this script as well,
01:55
they're all a little bit broken in a beautiful way.
01:58
And I think in a film that promises fun and adventure, the courage for it also to have
02:03
such emotional gravitas in each character makes the action more exciting, makes the
02:09
relationships more exciting.
02:10
And I think we all will Indy to have a love story, and we will him to have happiness and
02:18
to find satisfaction.
02:20
And that sometimes he's his own worst enemy in attempting to get that for himself.
02:27
And Mads Mikkelsen said in previous interviews that he's been a huge fan of Indiana Jones
02:32
since he was a kid.
02:34
What kind of relationship did you have with Indiana Jones growing up?
02:38
Well, I, as Harrison keeps reminding me, was four when it came out.
02:46
But I remember it being so in the DNA of my upbringing and so in the DNA of culture that
02:51
I sort of grew up with, I believed that Indiana Jones was real, you know, for many years.
02:56
It turns out he is, which is great.
03:00
But I think that sense of adventure and humour and mischief that the films had have never
03:06
really been captured in any way by any other franchise.
03:09
And I've always dreamed of having an adventure, never imagined I'd have one with Indiana Jones
03:14
himself.
03:15
But it's a dream come true.
03:19
Indiana Jones has been ranked second best hero of all times by the American Film Institute.
03:25
How do you feel about that?
03:26
Second?
03:27
Well, it depends on who the first one was.
03:32
Doesn't matter.
03:33
I mean, I'm pleased that we've been able to bring five really great movies to the culture.
03:44
You said it.
03:45
It's the last Indiana Jones for you.
03:49
How does it feel to say goodbye to Indiana Jones?
03:54
It feels like a wonderful chapter in my life, a chapter that was opened doors for me and
04:03
allowed me to work with other wonderful directors and make other films that I'm very pleased
04:12
to have had the chance to make, be part of.
04:19
But I mean, this character is singular in my experience and the most, I mean, I have
04:30
not made five films, you know, of a series with any other character.
04:38
So I know, I feel grateful that we had the opportunity to make this film.
04:44
I'm very proud of the script that Jim developed, Jim Engle developed to round out the story
04:53
of Indiana Jones.
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