"PTI, PPP,PMLN Ko Baith Kar Baat Karna Paregi...." Miftah Ismail's Statement

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#miftahismail #muhammadzubair #ptiprotest #pti #imrankhan #pmlngovt  #sawalyehhai #mariamemon   "PTI, PPP,PMLN Ko Baith Kar Baat Karna Paregi...." Miftah Ismail's Statement

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00:00Let's do some strategizing from here, Mr. Miftah.

00:04If we want to reduce the rate of corruption, how will that happen?

00:07What concessions will Mr. Khan have to give?

00:10Because both sides have to give face savings to each other.

00:13Let's start with Mr. Khan.

00:14If he has to give face savings to the government,

00:16what can he give or what can't he give?

00:19To what extent can he go?

00:23Look, Maria, remember one thing.

00:25If we call ourselves a democracy,

00:28whether we are or not,

00:30if we call ourselves a democracy,

00:32then the decision of the people should be the decision of the government.

00:37So whatever decision you make,

00:40you will have to keep a new election in it.

00:42That we will have an election again.

00:44A free and fair election.

00:46It won't be like what happened on 8th February.

00:48The election was free and fair.

00:50The results won't be of your choice.

00:51The results will be of honesty.

00:53So you will have to talk about that.

00:54Then you will have to talk about

00:56that we won't have a free and fair election.

00:57We will have it after a year,

00:58after a year and a half.

00:59Within a year and a half,

01:00we will give a share to Mr. Imran Khan's party.

01:04It is possible that you will tell Mr. Shahbaz Sharif

01:06that you should leave it.

01:07Someone else should come from Noon.

01:09A more acceptable face like Ahsan Iqbal.

01:12Or someone from People's Party,

01:13or someone from PTI,

01:14like Gaur Ejaz,

01:15or Mr. Naveed Qamar.

01:16Such a Prime Minister should be in the interim.

01:18Or someone like Akhtar Mangal.

01:21And he should take out a year.

01:24And after a year, you should have elections.

01:25With a new election commission.

01:27If this is ever their decision,

01:30then it can be around this.

01:32This will be its basic.

01:34As far as PTI has made one mistake,

01:36if I may take permission,

01:39they have focused on leaving Imran Khan.

01:43Shah Mehmood Qureshi has been in for so long.

01:45Yasmeen Rashid Sahiba has also been in for so long.

01:47To say that the whole of Pakistan is in turmoil

01:50and only Mr. Imran Khan is a flower.

01:52This is not appropriate.

01:53There are many other Pakistanis who are good people.

01:57And they should talk about elections.

02:02They should talk about democracy.

02:04And they should also bring other parties together.

02:06But if they don't come out in front of Imran Khan's cult of personality,

02:09then this is also their mistake.

02:11And that's why I have told PTI friends,

02:14that you think that you are the most accepted Jamaat in Pakistan.

02:17The biggest Jamaat.

02:18Imran is the most accepted leader.

02:20But he has been in jail for a year.

02:21And all your efforts have been in vain.

02:24Because you have only taken the path of war.

02:26Pakistan has the most expensive electricity in the world.

02:31We have never asked the PTI leader not to talk about it.

02:35There is so much expensive gas in Pakistan,

02:37that it is not found anywhere in the region.

02:39Never did the PTI leader talk about it.

02:40And I must say Mr. Mirza,

02:41when the budget came,

02:42when the budget came,

02:43your party's press conference was more lively.

02:46I don't think there was such a lively opposition to it.

02:49It's not that you are sitting.

02:50This is the right thing.

02:52No, no.

02:53The point is that PTI is just focused about PTI.

02:57They just say,

02:58that this has happened to us.

03:00Our sister Maryam also used to do it.

03:02Mr. Zubair will tell you.

03:03They were also oppressed.

03:05There was injustice on them without a doubt.

03:07But you can't just focus on that,

03:09that what has happened to us.

03:10You have to talk about the nation.

03:12PTI has not talked about the nation.

03:14If today in Punjab or in the whole of Pakistan,

03:16they say that we will not give gas to the captive power,

03:19or we are doing this,

03:20they are doing other things,

03:21then they never talk about it.

03:23They talk about Imran Khan.

03:24Yasmeen Rashid Sahiba,

03:25who is a cancer survivor,

03:26and is in jail,

03:27an old woman,

03:28they don't talk about her.

03:29They don't talk about Shah Mahmood.

03:31So I think PTI will have to take its statement

03:33towards democracy.

03:35Imran's focus will have to be reduced.

03:37And when Imran's focus is reduced,

03:39then we will have to talk about finding a solution.

03:42But Mr. Zubair was absolutely right,

03:45that the onus is on the government.

03:47It is the government's job to bring down the temperature.

03:50It is the government's job to increase the time.

03:52But Mr. Mufti, the problem is that the government is also stuck right now.

03:55Mr. Mufti, Mr. Vendapur's statements come that

03:57we will not leave this,

03:58we will come,

03:59we will take over,

04:00we will do this,

04:01we will do that.

04:02This is a political bravado,

04:04you are telling your voters that

04:06you are a Moula Jath of KP.

04:09But then it becomes easy for the government to say

04:12that they are coming to spread the movement,

04:14they are coming to make a mess right now.

04:23Look, Maria, the government is not wrong.

04:25They do come to spread the movement,

04:27they do break up,

04:28they do make a mess.

04:29The request is that,

04:30look, there are two things.

04:32When there was a little negotiation going on,

04:34or it seemed like there was a negotiation going on,

04:36then Salman Raja sahib,

04:38he went to the ARY itself probably,

04:40and he said that yes,

04:41Imran Khan sahib said that

04:43the protest on May 9th,

04:45he said that yes,

04:46we will do it in the cantonment,

04:48and we will do it in front of the commander's house.

04:50Salman Raja sahib said that himself.

04:51And then after a day or two,

04:52when their negotiation did not reach anywhere,

04:54Salman Raja sahib withdrew from his own statement

04:56that no, this was not his intention,

04:57this was his intention.

04:58The truth is that,

04:59look, the leadership of the army is stuck on this,

05:02that you people have attacked our homes,

05:05our shelters on May 9th,

05:07and in Pakistan,

05:08the Pakistani people have not done this with their army.

05:11They do not consider this acceptable,

05:14and you will have to get down to that hurdle.

05:17It is not enough to say that

05:188th February gave the answer of 9th May,

05:20you have to say one thing,

05:22and basically you say that

05:24yes, we said peacefully,

05:26what Salman Raja said was like this,

05:27and on the basis of that,

05:28you should not lie that we did this forceful suppression,

05:31you did not do it,

05:32it was not our people.

05:33You will have to give closure there too.

05:36And secondly,

05:37look, I will tell you seriously,

05:39Imran Khan sahib has Gaur Khan sahib,

05:42he has Asad Kaisar sahib,

05:44he has Salman Raja sahib.

05:46To make a committee of these three and say

05:48that we have given you three months,

05:49so find a way out from the government.

05:51This is a lie above the government,

05:53look, in reality,

05:54the matter will be with Asad Malkan.

05:56The government,

05:57you know,

05:58he is a sailor,

05:59he is not a manager,

06:00so the matter will go back,

06:02but to make a committee of these three people

06:04and after 2-3 months,

06:05you will be free from the protest.

06:07You should think that

06:08they have a lot of resources from you,

06:10they have ISI,

06:12now you cannot do things,

06:14this is not 2014.

06:16In this new reality,

06:17you should take a little political space,

06:19you have serious,

06:20solid people with you,

06:21you should work with them.

06:22Right,

06:23the serious,

06:24solid people,

06:25the political space.

06:26The things that you insist on,

06:27that I will see.

06:28Yes, yes.

06:29Anyway,

06:30the problem from both sides is that

06:31there is such a maximal position from both sides

06:33that I think

06:34there is no room for sanity

06:36if there are any doves in between.

06:38Yes,

06:39I want to say a point.

06:40Yes, Mr. Zubair,

06:41I want to ask you,

06:42what can be the solution

06:43to the problem of

06:44solid political space

06:45which will take 3 months

06:46and a solution will be found?

06:47Mr. Zubair,

06:48I want to know this too.

06:49First,

06:50let me tell you this,

06:51see,

06:52earlier,

06:53the government of the time

06:54and the establishment

06:55had decided to end PTI.

06:57The by-elections in Punjab

06:59were supposed to happen in April 2023,

07:01before May 9th.

07:03You had snatched that mandate from them.

07:05So,

07:06when you say

07:07that until the closure of May 9th,

07:09it is absolutely right

07:10that the person who played the role in May 9th,

07:12should be punished.

07:13But,

07:14don't say that

07:15May 9th,

07:16you had already decided that.

07:18You said that

07:19the elections will not be held

07:20which was constitutionally mandated

07:22and was the gravest constitutional violation.

07:25So,

07:26when one thing comes out in this,

07:28then everything is lost.

07:29But,

07:30Mr. Zubair,

07:31two wrongs do not make a right.

07:32If you,

07:33the vandalism that has happened.

07:34Don't.

07:35But,

07:36when we analyse Bangladesh,

07:37Maria,

07:38when we analyse

07:39East Pakistan separation,

07:41then we bring everything into it.

07:43Yes.

07:44But,

07:45Sir,

07:46I would say,

07:47what Mr. Mifta is saying,

07:48that somewhere or the other,

07:49to move forward,

07:50closure will have to be given.

07:51Sir,

07:52everyone needs face-saving.

07:53Even Mr. Khan needs face-saving.

07:54Prosecution should be done

07:55and punishments should be given.

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