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00:00:43Week 11, Dave is here for Will, because Will's wife just had another baby.
00:00:48Yes, Will, yep.
00:00:49Bigger news, John Gruden, officially the newest Barstool Sports employee.
00:00:53Coach.
00:00:54Coach.
00:00:55I'm fired up.
00:00:55I've been on some big teams before, but this is a great team.
00:00:59I'm honored to be here.
00:01:00So you talk about team.
00:01:02I wanted to just real quick before we get into the games.
00:01:05I'm not trying to say that there's any locker room dissension here,
00:01:08but I wanted to read something very that was written by someone in this room.
00:01:12OK, someone on the show.
00:01:14Someone on this show.
00:01:15It wasn't me. So it has to be Jerry.
00:01:17This is from September 19th, 2021.
00:01:20Let's see. The the handle says Jersey Jerry.
00:01:25He said, I love to put the pads on and crack that motherfucker,
00:01:28John Gruden.
00:01:30Guys, a scum crumbum.
00:01:31I break his back.
00:01:33Hey, what do we think about when we went to Pittsburgh
00:01:36on a short week and shredded you guys?
00:01:39I was looking for you in the parking lot too, Jerry.
00:01:42I was going to kick your ass on the way to the airport.
00:01:45I don't even know if that was me.
00:01:50I mean, Jerry, you got to you got to we got to put the pads on.
00:01:53No, I said I'd love to put the pads on and crack that motherfucker.
00:01:56John Gruden. Guys, a scum crumbum.
00:01:59I break his back.
00:02:03That sounds like you.
00:02:04What is the rate? What is the Raiders game?
00:02:07It must have been.
00:02:08We went down to Pittsburgh. It was your home opener.
00:02:10I saw you in the parking lot with all your weird friends.
00:02:14What's the date of the tour?
00:02:15September 19th, 2021. Yeah, yeah.
00:02:18Wow. Oh, yeah.
00:02:20Yeah. It's like three twenty four p.m.
00:02:23So probably right at the end of the game, fourth quarter.
00:02:27Jerry. I don't remember.
00:02:30I don't remember. I mean, I say a lot of crazy stuff.
00:02:32Yeah, but I'd like to put the pads on.
00:02:40Oh, yeah. Welcome to the team.
00:02:42Welcome to the team.
00:02:43I was so excited when Dan showed me that tweet.
00:02:45He's like, look at what Jerry did.
00:02:46How'd you find it? Someone sent it to me.
00:02:48Someone like responded.
00:02:50They're like, can't wait for the pro football show.
00:02:53I got one better for you than that.
00:02:54Last night when I met Jerry, he says, boy, you smell good.
00:02:57I he knew my cologne. Yeah.
00:02:59And then he gave you some.
00:03:00He gave me some cologne this morning.
00:03:01He gave him some cologne.
00:03:02Off to a good start.
00:03:04No, I gave him a different one. Baccarat.
00:03:05Yeah. Oh, that's a good one.
00:03:09He walked over and just handed him a little vial.
00:03:10It's like, here, try this.
00:03:12I knew when Dave said he was excited for the start of the show
00:03:14and he had the Dave smirk.
00:03:15So I mean, I did not expect that.
00:03:18So good. And Jerry's crying.
00:03:20Well, I mean, I just, you know, I say in the heat of the moment,
00:03:22Steelers lose a game. It's just tough.
00:03:28That's amazing. Welcome, coach.
00:03:30Yes, we're happy to have you.
00:03:32This is the way of Barstool sports work.
00:03:33So should we get straight into the games?
00:03:35Yeah, let's do it.
00:03:36And the first one, Jerry, is the Steelers.
00:03:38Yeah, I know that coach asked for you to come stand next to him.
00:03:40So I don't know if you're going to or not after that tweet.
00:03:42I'm a little intimidated by John.
00:03:46All right, let's get to the storyline.
00:03:47Games Week presented by the Chevy Silverado.
00:03:48We'll start with the Ravens at the Steelers.
00:03:50The Ravens minus three.
00:03:52Coach, I'll just go ahead and start with you.
00:03:53The Ravens get the win last week against Cincinnati.
00:03:56The Steelers also get a win.
00:03:57What are you seeing from this matchup?
00:03:59I think this is an old school mashup,
00:04:01not two teams that can really run the football.
00:04:04And I love the Steelers because Russell Wilson is in control.
00:04:07He's reinvented himself and he's opened up the offense.
00:04:10And with Mike Williams on one side and you have Pickens on the other,
00:04:14if you try to load the box to stop this running game,
00:04:17there's not a better deep ball passer over the years than Russell Wilson.
00:04:20And this Ravens secondary has really struggled.
00:04:24I'm going to count on the Steelers to win this game.
00:04:26They've had the Ravens number in years past.
00:04:29They can stop the run.
00:04:30I don't think Derrick Henry is as effective against the Steelers as most teams.
00:04:34And I just think Mike Tomlin has this team rolling right now.
00:04:37Yeah.
00:04:38Gary, you have to like that.
00:04:39I agree with coach.
00:04:40I don't want Gary to kick my ass.
00:04:42Yeah, I agree with coach.
00:04:44I think he's spot on.
00:04:45Nobody has done a better job over the years than the Steelers against Lamar
00:04:48Jackson.
00:04:49Worst passer rating against any team when he plays the Steelers.
00:04:53I really, I think Russell Wilson is good.
00:04:56A lot of people counted him out.
00:04:57I think he's still really good.
00:04:59I think coach is spot on.
00:05:00I don't think Derrick Henry is going to be able to run the ball great
00:05:02against this defense and defensive line.
00:05:05Probably one of the best defensive lines in football.
00:05:07So I'm going with the Steelers this week as a dog.
00:05:09I got a question.
00:05:10I'm going to take the Steelers too.
00:05:11This is just a numbers game for me.
00:05:14They have played in the last 20 years.
00:05:17The underdog in this matchup is 28 and 10 against the spread, 74%.
00:05:22And it's just like, just take the dog whenever these two teams play.
00:05:24Tomlin against Harbaugh is 12 and 2 against the spread as a dog.
00:05:29They've coached against you 36 times.
00:05:3136 times.
00:05:33Second only to George Hallis and Curly Lambeau.
00:05:36My question though for you, so I'm taking the Steelers.
00:05:38George Pickens, how do you coach a guy like that to not go over the line?
00:05:43Because he wants to.
00:05:44Did you see him do a wrestling move in the middle of a play on Sunday?
00:05:48I love Pickens.
00:05:49I mean, the catches he makes last week in Washington, only Pickens is making.
00:05:52Yeah, he's a dog.
00:05:53And Russell Wilson has given him shots, which he hasn't had before.
00:05:56But he's also crazy.
00:05:58Well, I'm crazy too.
00:05:59And if he can make plays, if he can make plays,
00:06:01go make, you know, keep feeding this monster.
00:06:05Dave?
00:06:06Yeah, I think the line, the spread is crazy to me
00:06:09that the Steelers are catching three.
00:06:11To me, this should be a pick-em, like a coin flip game, both like same records.
00:06:16So that worries me.
00:06:19I do like always taking the underdog.
00:06:21It almost seems obvious.
00:06:22Pittsburgh at home, these teams always play close games.
00:06:26So that scares me.
00:06:27You guys are all taking Pittsburgh.
00:06:29That scares me.
00:06:34I feel like I'm walking into a trap taking Pittsburgh here.
00:06:37And it's a little different.
00:06:38Like these games, the Pittsburgh, when I think Pittsburgh Ravens,
00:06:41I'm thinking low scoring.
00:06:42I'm thinking like 10 points may win the game.
00:06:44I don't think that's the case here.
00:06:45No, I agree with you there.
00:06:47I think because you have Kyle Hamilton out for the Ravens.
00:06:49They're really, really good safety.
00:06:51And then Highsmith's out for the Steelers.
00:06:52So there might be a little more points than usual.
00:06:55I'm going to take the Ravens, just based on the fact.
00:06:59Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh.
00:07:00And to me, it screams Pittsburgh.
00:07:02Like at home, Tomlin's always better as an underdog.
00:07:05But they should, doesn't this seem like a coin flip to you?
00:07:08Oh yeah, definitely is a coin flip.
00:07:09If it's a coin flip, why wouldn't you take the three?
00:07:11Exactly.
00:07:13What was the logic?
00:07:14Exactly.
00:07:15Exactly.
00:07:15Just take it.
00:07:16Don't think about it.
00:07:17But exactly.
00:07:19Let me tell you again, the underdog in this matchup
00:07:21is 28, 10, and 3.
00:07:23But usually it doesn't scream.
00:07:25Tomlin is 12, 2, and 2 against.
00:07:27But I think it's screaming Pittsburgh.
00:07:28Don't think, just throw.
00:07:29I'm taking the Ravens.
00:07:30OK.
00:07:31So you're like over it.
00:07:33I think this game, they are begging you to take the Steelers.
00:07:37I really do.
00:07:38At home, Tomlin as an underdog.
00:07:40These two teams are always close.
00:07:42Similar records.
00:07:43Everything coach said, Russ is playing great.
00:07:46Pittsburgh looks great.
00:07:49Baltimore is coming off a game they could have lost.
00:07:50He gave up 100 points.
00:07:52Yeah.
00:07:53Something's not right.
00:07:54Something's not right with that spread.
00:07:57Something's not right with that spread.
00:07:58I'm taking the Ravens.
00:07:59Taking the Ravens.
00:08:00Overthinking it.
00:08:00No, I will.
00:08:01OK.
00:08:02But he's overthinking the overthinking, right?
00:08:04I think you might, best case scenario,
00:08:06you'll have a push.
00:08:09I don't know.
00:08:09Maybe, Dan.
00:08:10OK.
00:08:11We'll see.
00:08:12All right, Sunday night football.
00:08:13The Bengals at the Chargers.
00:08:14The Chargers minus 1 and 1 half.
00:08:16Dan, we talked a lot about this.
00:08:17I mean, the Bengals obviously lose the game
00:08:18to the Ravens last week.
00:08:20Joe Burrow is playing out of his mind.
00:08:22Yeah.
00:08:22The fact that they are having the season that they are
00:08:24has to be pretty frustrating for them.
00:08:26Yeah.
00:08:27The Bengals, they've been in basically,
00:08:30like, you have to win every single week since whatever
00:08:33it has been, week five.
00:08:34For three years.
00:08:35Yeah.
00:08:36The Chargers are a really good football team
00:08:38that I don't think are getting enough credit.
00:08:39Their defense has been elite.
00:08:42I think they've held everyone under 20 points.
00:08:43Maybe the Titans in garbage time last week.
00:08:46But Justin Herbert has been playing such good football.
00:08:51I'm sure you've seen it on the tape.
00:08:52That guy, like, he is in, they know exactly
00:08:55what they want to do.
00:08:56They want to pound the rock.
00:08:57They'll be able to pound the rock on this Bengals defense.
00:09:00And Justin Herbert hasn't thrown an interception since week two.
00:09:03He's just playing phenomenal football.
00:09:05I'm going to take the better all-around team.
00:09:07And I'm done.
00:09:08I think I'm done doing the, like,
00:09:10the Bengals are going to win because they have to win.
00:09:11I think I'm just going to take the better
00:09:13team here in the Chargers.
00:09:15I think the Chargers are one of the great mysteries
00:09:17I have seen.
00:09:18I'll bet there's fans out there, me included,
00:09:20that can't name four LA Chargers on defense.
00:09:24And they're giving up 13 points a game.
00:09:26They've got 11 different players with the sack.
00:09:28And it's not Bosa.
00:09:29Bosa has two sacks.
00:09:31They got guys like Bud Dupree, five and a half sacks.
00:09:34I mean, they're coming after you on defense.
00:09:35Now, they haven't seen a lot of top flight quarterbacks.
00:09:38They saw Mahomes and Murray, and that's it.
00:09:41A lot of guys they played against aren't Joe Burrow.
00:09:44This is my favorite game of the week.
00:09:46I love Joe Burrow.
00:09:48After watching him last week against the Ravens,
00:09:52I mean, I sat down and watched that game.
00:09:53The plays he's making, that was the best game
00:09:55played by a quarterback this year.
00:09:57And I think if they get T. Higgins back,
00:09:59the Chargers are missing Asante Samuel,
00:10:01one of their top corners.
00:10:03Christian Fuller is just coming back the other corner,
00:10:05who's missed two weeks with a hamstring.
00:10:08I'm looking for Joe Burrow to come in here
00:10:10really pissed off like he was last week.
00:10:12And I think they're gonna shred this number one defense
00:10:14here at the Chargers.
00:10:15Okay, you're right that Joe Burrow's like,
00:10:17I bet him to win MVP, which he's not going to
00:10:20because his record's not gonna be there,
00:10:21but he's been playing better than anyone else.
00:10:23Yeah, out of his mind.
00:10:24The only thing I'm worried about,
00:10:26and I'm taking the Chargers, you're taking the Bengals,
00:10:28I think the Chargers are gonna be able to play keep away.
00:10:30I think they're gonna just be able to run the ball
00:10:32down their throat over and over.
00:10:34And Harbaugh will have a plan like,
00:10:36hey, we have to make this a seven, eight possession game
00:10:39for Joe Burrow, otherwise he's gonna torch us.
00:10:40Well, time of possession is gonna be huge.
00:10:43But I'm telling you, Joe Burrow, he is playing,
00:10:45and he has an arsenal.
00:10:47This chase, what he did last week, phenomenal.
00:10:50And I know their back is against the wall.
00:10:53I saw Max Crosby of the Raiders hit Joe Burrow
00:10:56harder than any quarterback has been hit.
00:10:58And it really ticked Burrow off.
00:11:00A lot of guys would crumble and fall apart.
00:11:02He's at a different level right now,
00:11:04playing-wise and emotionally.
00:11:06And I think he's gonna will it out of his teammates.
00:11:08From a coaching standpoint, too,
00:11:09I mean, you look at the Bengals being four and six,
00:11:11like, and you see how Joe is playing.
00:11:13Like, what do you say to your quarterback in that situation?
00:11:15Like, they're just not winning these games they should be
00:11:17because he's playing the way he is.
00:11:18Just keep it going, Burrow, just keep it going, Joe.
00:11:20I think the Bengals are,
00:11:21and Dave and I were talking last night,
00:11:23I think they're one of the sleepers
00:11:25to not just get into the playoffs.
00:11:26I think they're a problem.
00:11:28I think they could still end up in the Super Bowl.
00:11:30That's how much I love their quarterback.
00:11:31Dave?
00:11:32Yeah, I agree.
00:11:33I agree, they need this game.
00:11:35Have to.
00:11:35Yeah, if they lose this game,
00:11:37most likely they're gonna have a hard time
00:11:40at four and seven making the playoffs.
00:11:42But if they make a playoffs,
00:11:43they're the team nobody wants to see.
00:11:44I mean, everyone is still saying the Ravens
00:11:47are one of the Super Bowl favorites,
00:11:48outside the Chiefs, obviously.
00:11:50Could've beaten the Ravens twice.
00:11:51I don't know what happened to the defense.
00:11:53I know they lost a couple guys,
00:11:55but their defense was actually really good.
00:11:57The Bengals the last couple years,
00:11:58that's what made them so dangerous.
00:12:01I'm gonna take the Bengals here,
00:12:02because it's the Joe Burrow factor.
00:12:04I can't see a world where he's not involved,
00:12:08provided he's healthy.
00:12:09Like, the only time he hasn't been involved
00:12:11is when he's been hurt.
00:12:12When he's been healthy,
00:12:14they've been a play away from winning the Super Bowl
00:12:17or getting to the Super Bowl.
00:12:18So I just don't see a world he's not involved.
00:12:21I'll take him based on that.
00:12:22I'm excited, because I-
00:12:23What are they right now?
00:12:24Everything you guys said about the Bengals,
00:12:26and that's how I feel about the Chargers.
00:12:28I think they're the team that,
00:12:30they're not explosive, they're not flashy,
00:12:32but they do the fundamental things correctly,
00:12:34and they're a very tough out.
00:12:36Even that game against the Chiefs,
00:12:37which you mentioned,
00:12:38they've only played two elite quarterbacks.
00:12:41The Chiefs didn't blow them out.
00:12:42They were in that game.
00:12:43That was when Justin Herbert was still dealing with-
00:12:44I've never been a Herbert guy.
00:12:46Oh, I think he's been awesome.
00:12:47Never been a Herbert guy.
00:12:48I think he deserves a ton of credit.
00:12:49He's got, I mean, Quinton Johnson-
00:12:50He's a Harbaugh guy.
00:12:51Quinton Johnson didn't know how to catch a football
00:12:52last year, and he's got him catching footballs.
00:12:54Yeah, he didn't know how to catch a football last year.
00:12:55He didn't know how to catch a football.
00:12:56He's catching footballs.
00:12:58Justin Herbert.
00:12:59Are you looking at what the-
00:13:00I'm looking at the future.
00:13:01Yeah, the Bengals right now.
00:13:02What are-
00:13:0350 to one?
00:13:0350 to, 45, yeah.
00:13:0445 to one.
00:13:0545 to one.
00:13:06That is, that is something.
00:13:08Yeah, I mean, it's worth a flyer,
00:13:10but there's a very good chance, you know-
00:13:13They don't even make the point.
00:13:14They can't, they gotta get to 10 wins.
00:13:16I don't think you're gonna get,
00:13:17maybe you get in, see if you can-
00:13:20I mean, the AFCs, there's a lot of bad teams.
00:13:22Yeah, I think the Broncos,
00:13:24the Chargers and Broncos right now,
00:13:25I believe, would be the six and seven, so.
00:13:27But yeah, I know there are a lot of bad teams.
00:13:28Well, here's some of the quarterbacks,
00:13:30other than Murray and Mahomes.
00:13:31Now, remember, the Chiefs are decimated with injuries.
00:13:34They've seen Jameis Winston, Will Levis,
00:13:37Spencer Rattler, Bo Nix, Justin Fields,
00:13:40Bryce Young, and Gardner Minshew.
00:13:42Okay, not the best.
00:13:43Now, you can't judge.
00:13:43I used to coach a team that had a great defense in Tampa.
00:13:46You can't judge a great defense until you see the best.
00:13:50And here is what the Chargers have in front of them.
00:13:54They get the best, I think.
00:13:55Burroughs coming to town.
00:13:56You want to claim to be the great defense?
00:13:58You shut down Cincinnati at full strength.
00:14:00Yeah, I don't think there's a defense in the league
00:14:02that if the Bengals' offense is healthy
00:14:05can stop that offense.
00:14:06I think their offense is that good.
00:14:07The Philadelphia Eagles did, though.
00:14:09The Eagles went into Cincinnati and shut them down.
00:14:12Were they fully healthy?
00:14:13I mean, T. Higgins hasn't played in four weeks, but I-
00:14:16I mean, he's important.
00:14:18He is, but the Eagles did shut him down.
00:14:20So I- I- I just think the Bengals-
00:14:23I love Joe Burrough, but I just, I don't know.
00:14:25I think they're going to be able to pound the rock.
00:14:27That's what the Eagles did to them.
00:14:28Yeah, we'll see.
00:14:30Let's go to Jerry's Picking Zoo,
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00:14:52Who do we have this week, Jerry?
00:14:54Leia.
00:14:54Leia's back.
00:14:55She's 2-0.
00:14:56Leia's 2-0.
00:14:57Got the Steelers last week.
00:14:58All right.
00:14:59Let's run the tape.
00:15:01All right, welcome back.
00:15:01Pro Football Football Show, week 11.
00:15:05Leia is 2-0.
00:15:08Undefeated, never lost, no bias last week
00:15:11with the Steelers pick.
00:15:11And look at this one.
00:15:12It's going to go on the Steelers, okay?
00:15:14It's going to go on the Steelers, right?
00:15:16Go, go.
00:15:17Boom, it's the Steelers.
00:15:18Zero bias there.
00:15:19We're going to go another zero bias pick this week.
00:15:21KC against Buffalo.
00:15:23If it was up to me, I'd pick Buffalo.
00:15:25That's just what my heart says.
00:15:26My heart said Steelers last week,
00:15:28but it was an unbiased pick.
00:15:29She's 2-0.
00:15:31Undefeated.
00:15:32We're going to go for 3-0.
00:15:33I think she can do it.
00:15:34Leila the queen.
00:15:36She, I mean, she's such a pretty woman, though.
00:15:39Can I get a little knuckle?
00:15:40Oh my God.
00:15:43Leia.
00:15:44Shake.
00:15:45Okay.
00:15:47Stay, stay, stay, stay, stay.
00:15:50We're going to put this down here.
00:15:51And then we're going to put this down quick.
00:15:53Oh, it's the Bills.
00:15:54It's the Bills.
00:15:55The Bills this week.
00:15:57Book it.
00:15:58We'll be back next week.
00:15:59Leia guaranteed 3-0.
00:16:03Okay.
00:16:04Great job, Jerry.
00:16:05Yeah, great job, Jerry.
00:16:05So the Chiefs and the Bills,
00:16:06we know it's always an exciting game.
00:16:07Dave, I'll start with you.
00:16:09Mahomes versus Josh Allen.
00:16:11You want to talk about teams that aren't getting respect.
00:16:13In my mind, it's the Bills.
00:16:15Sitting here at eight and two,
00:16:16but you don't hear them in Super Bowl conversations
00:16:20very often.
00:16:20They lost some guys off season.
00:16:22They're eight and two.
00:16:23What, what, I love Josh Allen.
00:16:26For some reason, I don't consider the Bills
00:16:28the Super Bowl threat.
00:16:31I had them as a window-closing team.
00:16:33It seemed like, you know, the year they lost to the Chiefs
00:16:36in what was it, the nine seconds or whatever it is.
00:16:3713 seconds.
00:16:3813 seconds.
00:16:39After that, it seemed like they regressed a little bit,
00:16:42but here they are, eight and two.
00:16:43I'll take the Bills here.
00:16:47The Chiefs remind me of the old Patriots.
00:16:51They're just finding different ways to win.
00:16:53They sit there, they play their game.
00:16:55They wait for the other team to shoot themselves in the foot
00:16:57and then they take advantage.
00:16:59And you know, look, if they win this game 10 and 0,
00:17:02I don't think they're,
00:17:03I don't think they're the 16 and 0 Patriots.
00:17:05I don't think they're that good.
00:17:06They got to lose somewhere.
00:17:07This seems like an obvious spot.
00:17:09Part of me is like when the Chiefs lose,
00:17:10it won't be an obvious spot,
00:17:12but they keep winning in the non-obvious spots.
00:17:14So I'll take the Bills at home.
00:17:18Tough, tough game.
00:17:19Tough, tough game.
00:17:21Obviously a tough game.
00:17:22Dan?
00:17:24It's brutal because I feel like it's groundhogs, Dan.
00:17:26I've been here a million times.
00:17:28Patrick Mahomes is an underdog.
00:17:29He's 12, one and one against the spread as an underdog.
00:17:32But every time I'm like,
00:17:33oh, this is the one that he's going to lose.
00:17:36I, the Keon Coleman and Dalton Kincaid injuries
00:17:39make me very nervous.
00:17:40Because I do think the Bills are a Super Bowl
00:17:42contending team, but they need to be healthy on offense
00:17:44because they actually do have some sneaky weapons.
00:17:46Is Cooper playing?
00:17:47Do they know that yet?
00:17:48I don't know.
00:17:49I know Coleman is out.
00:17:50Coleman's out.
00:17:51And then the Chiefs, the problem is the Chiefs
00:17:54run defenses very good.
00:17:56I do think the best version of the Bills,
00:17:59they have to pound the rock.
00:18:00I'm going to pass and see what coach says.
00:18:02You know, I love you guys.
00:18:03You guys really take this personal.
00:18:04Yeah.
00:18:05I don't make sense.
00:18:06You know, some people feel pressure.
00:18:09Some people apply pressure.
00:18:10It's like, you're feeling the pressure.
00:18:12This Bengals Chargers game.
00:18:13If you don't, if the Chargers win that game
00:18:15and you don't think you're getting a text message
00:18:18on Sunday night.
00:18:19That's the way it goes.
00:18:20Yeah.
00:18:21I love watching both of these two teams.
00:18:23You know how you get the films.
00:18:24I'm at my office and I love to study the films.
00:18:26And I usually start with Detroit Lions
00:18:29and I start with Kansas City.
00:18:30And I really like watching Buffalo.
00:18:31I love watching them.
00:18:32Both great coaches.
00:18:34Offensive head coach, Andy Reid,
00:18:35defensive head coach, McDermott.
00:18:38But I do think the Chiefs win this game.
00:18:40And the reason is I watched that Miami Dolphin Buffalo game
00:18:43two weeks ago and I thought Buffalo was going to pound Miami
00:18:47and Tua completed 25 out of 28 against this zone coverage.
00:18:51I think Andy Reid gets Juju Smith-Schuster back this week.
00:18:56Hopkins knows the offense better and better.
00:18:59And guess who I'm seeing catch a lot of passes
00:19:01the last few weeks.
00:19:02A guy named Kelsey.
00:19:03Yeah, he's getting a lot more involved.
00:19:04Pacheco's in the bullpen.
00:19:05He's about to come back.
00:19:06I don't think he's going to play this week.
00:19:08I just think the Chiefs, they have a great kicker, Butker.
00:19:12They got a great coaching staff
00:19:14with this special teams coach.
00:19:15He won a game for them last week.
00:19:17Mahomes is Mahomes.
00:19:19Andy Reid is Andy Reid.
00:19:20And their defense, man.
00:19:21The Chiefs defense, they just get key stops
00:19:25when they need them.
00:19:25I'm taking the Chiefs on the road.
00:19:27They seem to love the misery.
00:19:29That's what I love about them the most.
00:19:31When they're beat up, when they're considered an underdog,
00:19:34it just seems to bring out the best in them.
00:19:36If they win this game,
00:19:37you got to start looking at perfect season again.
00:19:39Don't you?
00:19:40Yeah.
00:19:41They still got the Steelers on Christmas.
00:19:43Where's that game?
00:19:44Pittsburgh.
00:19:44Oh.
00:19:45That's a tough game.
00:19:46All right, I'll ride with coach.
00:19:48I'm just going to, listen, I'm going to do this.
00:19:50This is one of those bets where I'm going to take the Chiefs
00:19:5412, one and one against spread Patrick Mahomes.
00:19:57If the Chiefs end up losing,
00:19:58I'll be happy for the Bills and Josh Allen.
00:20:00But I can't, I can't lose another bet
00:20:02where I don't take Patrick Mahomes as an underdog
00:20:04and then have it happen and be like,
00:20:07why did I do this again?
00:20:07You can't bet against him.
00:20:08I just can't do it.
00:20:09I've done it.
00:20:10I think Patrick Mahomes is 12, one and one
00:20:12against spread as an underdog.
00:20:13I think I'm one, 11 and one betting against him.
00:20:16Like I bet him in the Super Bowl as an underdog.
00:20:18That's the only time.
00:20:19Every other time, I'm an idiot.
00:20:21So I'm going to go with Mahomes.
00:20:22And then if it doesn't work for you,
00:20:24then at least you don't feel.
00:20:25Yeah, right.
00:20:26Exactly.
00:20:27Exactly.
00:20:28But I think when you're picking these games,
00:20:29not to interrupt,
00:20:30there's a thing called the money line
00:20:31where you just pick the winner.
00:20:33Yeah.
00:20:33See, I'm just learning these things.
00:20:34I never thought about these things.
00:20:36That's what I do.
00:20:37I pick winners.
00:20:38I don't get into the spread.
00:20:39I don't think the Chiefs could care less, Dave.
00:20:41But they went 10 to nine or 30 to 29.
00:20:44Yeah, the odds are.
00:20:45And I'm picking the Chiefs to win the game.
00:20:47Well, if you got, in this game,
00:20:49if you get the money line right,
00:20:50the odds are you get the game right.
00:20:52Because the spread's so minimal.
00:20:53Two points, right.
00:20:54They're saying we don't know who's going to win this game.
00:20:55Yeah, and it is just an insane stat
00:20:58to be 12, one and one as an underdog.
00:20:59Yep.
00:21:00That's crazy.
00:21:01That's nuts.
00:21:02It's crazy.
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00:21:30All right, Dan, I know it's been tough for you.
00:21:32And we were on the college football show last night,
00:21:34and Dave brought up the Bears,
00:21:36and you said, not on this show.
00:21:37I'm gonna give you your time.
00:21:38And before he starts, I want to say,
00:21:40as I've said from the beginning,
00:21:42we're in Chicago, it's the Chicago office.
00:21:44I've had my success.
00:21:46I've drank the champagne six times at the Patriots.
00:21:49I've hoisted the Lombardi.
00:21:51I've been at the Super Bowl parties.
00:21:52I've seen their misery,
00:21:54and nobody's rooting for Caleb Williams and the Bears
00:21:57to be decent more than me out of the kindness of my heart.
00:22:02Dan.
00:22:03This is, I mean, it's a mess.
00:22:04It's a mess.
00:22:05It's a mess.
00:22:06Everything's a mess.
00:22:06It was all over.
00:22:07The worst part about the Bears' mess is it was avoidable,
00:22:10and we all saw it coming, and it still happened.
00:22:13They did everything wrong for a rookie quarterback
00:22:16in keeping Matt Eberfloos,
00:22:17getting a lame duck head coach to get a lame duck OC
00:22:20who's now fired in Shane Waldron.
00:22:23I am, the only way I can get myself up off the mat
00:22:26is I am just gonna assume that Shane Waldron
00:22:30is the worst person in the world and the problem to ever,
00:22:34he's the reason for every problem that's ever been created.
00:22:37Every war, every tragedy, everything.
00:22:39Shane Waldron's at fault, so now that he's gone,
00:22:42the Bears are gonna be awesome and win this game.
00:22:45Do you really believe that?
00:22:46No, but it's the only way to get off the mat.
00:22:49I can't, there's no other way around it
00:22:51where you see Keenan Allen.
00:22:53Dak, did you see the Keenan Allen quote?
00:22:55No.
00:22:56They fired Shane Waldron.
00:22:57They asked him after in the press conference this week.
00:22:59They're like, why do you think it didn't work?
00:23:01He said Shane Waldron was just too nice of a guy
00:23:04and they just let things slip
00:23:06and they just kind of got fat and happy,
00:23:10which is crazy because the Bears never won anything.
00:23:13Shane Waldron was the problem.
00:23:14Now that it's gone, we're good.
00:23:16We're gonna win this game.
00:23:17Can I ask coach a question?
00:23:18This is aside from me,
00:23:19but this has nothing to do with anything.
00:23:21But coach, you're back in the war room.
00:23:25It's the NFL draft.
00:23:26You're sitting there.
00:23:27You have the number one pick.
00:23:28You see Drake May on the board.
00:23:30You see Caleb Williams on the board.
00:23:33Who are you taking?
00:23:34Wow, that's a good one.
00:23:35You know, I did not have Caleb as my number one guy.
00:23:38I love Drake May.
00:23:39I loved his post-game press conferences the most
00:23:42after they lost.
00:23:43I thought he could handle the adversity
00:23:45and the tough times that are gonna be coming.
00:23:48And I loved his size.
00:23:49And I liked the guy at LSU that their commanders took.
00:23:52The only question I had really with Caleb
00:23:54is the weather hasn't even gotten bad yet.
00:23:56No, I know.
00:23:57I mean, can a kid from Southern California,
00:23:59remember Cade McCown?
00:24:00I know you did.
00:24:01Yes, yes, yes.
00:24:02You go play in Chicago.
00:24:03Yeah, but okay.
00:24:04Hold on, hold on, hold on.
00:24:06I mean, the weather hasn't even gotten bad yet.
00:24:08Time out, time out, time out.
00:24:09You know the answer to that?
00:24:11Jim Kelly.
00:24:12There you go.
00:24:13Okay?
00:24:14Well.
00:24:14Because that was the story with Jim Kelly.
00:24:16Can't play in the cold, you know.
00:24:17He's also one of the baddest asses
00:24:18to ever walk on the face of dirt.
00:24:19Okay, well, maybe Caleb Williams is, too.
00:24:21But your body language is so bad.
00:24:23It's bad.
00:24:23I used to tell our players,
00:24:25don't have that.
00:24:26You're like bad luck Sleprock.
00:24:28I can't do it.
00:24:29I can't do it.
00:24:30You look like you have the flu.
00:24:30I'm beaten, I'm beaten.
00:24:31You gotta get a positive attitude.
00:24:33Shane Waldron was the problem.
00:24:34That's the positive attitude.
00:24:36It's bad.
00:24:37They are a non-serious organization.
00:24:40They have never hired a football guy.
00:24:42I got a bunch of tweets today
00:24:43when we announced that you were hired at Barstool Sports.
00:24:45People were like,
00:24:46I can't believe that Barstool got the best coach
00:24:49in Chicago.
00:24:50Like, they're like,
00:24:50how can Gruden go to Barstool
00:24:52and the Bears can't hire a coach?
00:24:54They don't, they're not a serious organization.
00:24:56They do everything ass backwards.
00:24:58It's a joke.
00:25:00Shane Waldron was the problem though,
00:25:02and everything's gonna be fixed.
00:25:03And you've said that you don't think
00:25:05it's just because it's Caleb,
00:25:06but any quarterback would have been.
00:25:07Anyone, anyone.
00:25:08This is the mom's thing.
00:25:08But you mix a quarterback,
00:25:09you mix a quarterback who's crying in the stands
00:25:13with his mom.
00:25:13I was okay with that.
00:25:14I liked that.
00:25:15Listen, that's a guy who's passionate.
00:25:16He's passionate.
00:25:17He cried to his mom.
00:25:18What's wrong with that?
00:25:19No, this is my whole thing.
00:25:19What's wrong with that?
00:25:20He went to Italy, supposedly.
00:25:22That's just fake news that you've thrown out there.
00:25:24Propaganda.
00:25:25This is my whole, Mitch Trubisky,
00:25:27if the Bears had taken Patrick Mahomes,
00:25:29he would have failed too.
00:25:31He'd be out of the league,
00:25:32because that's what the Bears do.
00:25:33They kill quarterbacks.
00:25:34They just ruin everybody.
00:25:35They kill quarterbacks.
00:25:35What a terrible attitude.
00:25:37Yeah, it sucks.
00:25:38Well, bad attitude.
00:25:39I mean, when you look at the film,
00:25:40let's be honest.
00:25:41The receivers, they have.
00:25:43They got Moore.
00:25:43They got a high pick.
00:25:45What's his name from Washington?
00:25:47Yeah, Roma Dunze.
00:25:47Aduze.
00:25:48They have Keenan Allen.
00:25:50They got a great tight end.
00:25:51The receiver's gotta get open.
00:25:53Yes.
00:25:54The quarterback has to get rid of the ball.
00:25:55Yes.
00:25:56He's carried it 40 times.
00:25:57Agreed.
00:25:58He's been sacked 40 times.
00:25:59Agreed.
00:26:00Get open.
00:26:00Get rid of the ball.
00:26:01Agreed.
00:26:02And get the ball to Swift.
00:26:03If you can't do that.
00:26:04Agreed.
00:26:05Get your asses going.
00:26:05Yes.
00:26:06Yes.
00:26:07Did you know that?
00:26:08Yes.
00:26:09Good God.
00:26:10That has a lot of fire under your ass, Danny.
00:26:10He's right.
00:26:11Everything he says is right.
00:26:12Get rid of the ball.
00:26:13Get guys open.
00:26:14DJ Moore, go back in the slot.
00:26:16I don't know why he's out wide.
00:26:17Can I ask another question?
00:26:19What I've seen reports that the veterans
00:26:24want Badgett to be in the squad.
00:26:26Fake news.
00:26:26Absolutely fake news.
00:26:27Why do you say that?
00:26:28Because it's been proven to be fake.
00:26:29Maybe DJ Moore.
00:26:30Maybe one.
00:26:31Maybe one veteran.
00:26:33Is there a chance?
00:26:34Now, coach, you got this guy, a backup,
00:26:37that has proven success.
00:26:38He played pretty well with the team.
00:26:40It seems like they rally around this guy.
00:26:42The other one's saying, oh, you're signing bonus.
00:26:45I made more than the entire team.
00:26:46He's bragging as a rookie.
00:26:48No, no.
00:26:48Will you ever let this kid have a chance?
00:26:51No.
00:26:52The kid, Badgett.
00:26:53Okay.
00:26:54Let me ask you this.
00:26:54No, no, no.
00:26:55Before you answer this, before you answer this,
00:26:57before you answer this, let me ask you this question.
00:26:59I like Tyson Badgett, great backup quarterback.
00:27:02If you had to pick two attributes for a quarterback,
00:27:05what are the two, what are the top two that you need?
00:27:08Well, you gotta be able to throw the ball.
00:27:09There it is.
00:27:10Okay, so then that's it.
00:27:11Just one.
00:27:12I should have said one.
00:27:13Arm strength.
00:27:13He doesn't, Tyson Badgett doesn't have the arm strength.
00:27:15Jamarcus Russell.
00:27:15What I'm saying, he doesn't have the arm strength.
00:27:17You gotta beat the Packers.
00:27:18You're gonna, Caleb Wynn's gonna beat the Packers.
00:27:20Shane Waldron.
00:27:22I almost said did 9-11, but I'm not gonna say that.
00:27:25I think we gotta get behind Caleb Williams.
00:27:27We gotta support him.
00:27:28Yes.
00:27:29Yes.
00:27:29Support him.
00:27:30Support him.
00:27:31We gotta get him.
00:27:32They got it all pros all over the place.
00:27:33They have no offensive line.
00:27:34They have a fucking idiot coach.
00:27:34You're pulling up some cryptic tweet
00:27:37from some player that wants a bet.
00:27:39It's not even true.
00:27:40It's not true.
00:27:41You're spreading the fake news.
00:27:42Thank you, fake news Dave.
00:27:44Fake news.
00:27:45Propaganda.
00:27:46I read it somewhere.
00:27:46It didn't come from fake news.
00:27:47He's also really never liked Caleb Williams.
00:27:49No, he's never.
00:27:50He's always hated him.
00:27:51I have not been, I said I was not a Caleb Williams guy,
00:27:54but I'm rooting for him.
00:27:55Everything is broken.
00:27:56You can't point, and you can tell me if I'm wrong on this.
00:27:58Everything's broken.
00:28:00The receivers don't get open.
00:28:01The line doesn't block.
00:28:02Caleb holds onto the ball too long.
00:28:04You gotta find a way.
00:28:05You can't run the ball effectively.
00:28:06Everything's broken.
00:28:08Get back to basics.
00:28:09Pound the rock.
00:28:10Hit the fucking guy like you said.
00:28:12Hit the guy underneath.
00:28:13Get the easy throws.
00:28:14Get some quick slants going.
00:28:16Put DJ Moore in the slot.
00:28:18Now you got me fired up.
00:28:19Or just get some guys off the practice squad
00:28:22that have a better attitude than Dan.
00:28:24I'm pissed off.
00:28:25Play some guys that'll bust their ass.
00:28:25It's hard to have a good attitude when you've,
00:28:28it's just hard.
00:28:29It's hard.
00:28:29It's crazy because when they played in London,
00:28:33the entire office is like, you've seen this better scene.
00:28:36Isn't it true though, the Hail Mary?
00:28:39Yeah.
00:28:39I mean, if they don't lose that game,
00:28:41we're not having some of these conversations.
00:28:42That broke it.
00:28:43That broke the locker room.
00:28:44100%.
00:28:45100%.
00:28:46Well, yeah, I mean.
00:28:46You gonna blame Caleb Williams for that?
00:28:47He had a hell of a drive.
00:28:48No, I blame Matt Eberth who's a doofus
00:28:51who shouldn't have been hired.
00:28:52He got a nice haircut and everyone thought
00:28:53it'd be different.
00:28:54I gotta get a haircut.
00:28:55Who did you say?
00:28:56No, you don't.
00:28:57Your hair looks great.
00:28:57Thanks.
00:28:58I put a lot of effort into it.
00:28:59Who did you say you wanted to coach
00:29:00last night for the Bears?
00:29:02We're in college.
00:29:02You were like, we're gonna get a new coach.
00:29:03Oh, I want Dan Lanning.
00:29:05I want a football guy.
00:29:06I want him.
00:29:07I want Mike Vrabel.
00:29:08I want Dan Lanning.
00:29:09I want a football guy.
00:29:10I want a Jim Harbaugh.
00:29:12I want someone who'll come in,
00:29:13stuff everyone in a locker,
00:29:14and be like, this is what we're gonna do.
00:29:17Dave, are you gonna take the Bears?
00:29:22I asked, no.
00:29:24I'm not gonna.
00:29:24I can't.
00:29:25Listen, I thought the Bears were gonna kill
00:29:30the Patriots last week.
00:29:31I did.
00:29:32See, I didn't.
00:29:33That was one of the worst.
00:29:34If you didn't know who Caleb Williams was
00:29:36and you watch him play,
00:29:37and I'm being serious.
00:29:40Some guys were open.
00:29:41He was, that was one of the worst QB performances
00:29:43I've ever seen.
00:29:44I don't know how I can take him.
00:29:46Now, the NFL is one of those leagues
00:29:49where you watch one thing one week,
00:29:50and then it's like, it's totally different the next.
00:29:53It's crazy that way.
00:29:54But I can't after seeing what I saw.
00:29:56So I'll take the Packers here.
00:29:58Six and three, yeah, I'll take the Pack.
00:30:01Coming off a bye, too.
00:30:02John?
00:30:03Well, after listening to him,
00:30:04I'm taking Green Bay.
00:30:05Coming on a bye week.
00:30:06It's fine.
00:30:07Green Bay's had a bye to get ready for this.
00:30:09They're getting healthy.
00:30:10Josh Jacobs is running the ball.
00:30:12Love, Jordan Love has gotta play better.
00:30:15He's had some injuries.
00:30:17He's had multiple injuries,
00:30:18but he's turning the ball over.
00:30:19That's the only chance the Bears have.
00:30:21I think if Brisker, your safety, was playing,
00:30:23it would sure help.
00:30:25But I think the Packers come in here
00:30:26as a fresh football team on the road,
00:30:29and they beat the Bears like they always do, Dan.
00:30:31We've never beaten Matt LeFleur.
00:30:32I mean, I coach for the Green Bay.
00:30:33I know.
00:30:34We kicked your ass once or twice a year.
00:30:35We've never beaten Matt LeFleur.
00:30:36He's 10 and 0 against the Bears.
00:30:37That is an incredible stat.
00:30:39Yeah, I mean, we've won like three times
00:30:41in the last 15 years.
00:30:43It's crazy.
00:30:43It's hard to be positive.
00:30:44I get it, Dan.
00:30:45Yeah, it is.
00:30:46It's very hard.
00:30:47They churn through.
00:30:48They're turning, you know,
00:30:49that old Cleveland Browns jersey.
00:30:52All the quarterbacks, that's becoming the Bears.
00:30:54This is one after another.
00:30:56Sad.
00:30:57I still believe in those words.
00:30:58And he's right.
00:30:59He's right.
00:30:59You always have these conversations,
00:31:00like Mahomes, Brady.
00:31:02If they get drafted to the Bears,
00:31:04we just know who they are.
00:31:06Can anybody win with the Bears?
00:31:07Three years in a row, three quarterbacks in a row,
00:31:10we've drafted a quarterback,
00:31:11and then fired the head coach
00:31:12the year after they got drafted.
00:31:14That you can't win like that.
00:31:15They just get all their timelines wrong.
00:31:17They had a chance to fix it.
00:31:18They didn't.
00:31:19It just sucks.
00:31:20I'm sorry, Dan.
00:31:21It's okay.
00:31:22Okay, Dave.
00:31:23They're gonna win this game.
00:31:24You guys are gonna look stupid.
00:31:25Dave, what's your playbook pick?
00:31:26So, the Patriots-Rams.
00:31:28I came into this season really,
00:31:32I was playing for the number one pick.
00:31:34I did not want Drake May to play.
00:31:36Our offensive line seemed so bad.
00:31:39I was like, let's wait till next year.
00:31:41And I didn't know what we had in Drake May, to be honest.
00:31:44Suddenly, the Patriots are in a better spot
00:31:47than the Bears and a lot of teams.
00:31:49And you got guys like Coach Gruen said,
00:31:50we love Drake May.
00:31:51He's looked great.
00:31:52And it looks like, all right,
00:31:54maybe we're on the right track here.
00:31:56We were talking, I was talking to Nicky Smokes
00:31:58with the Dolphins.
00:31:59I'd rather be the Patriots than the Dolphins.
00:32:01Outside of really the Bills,
00:32:03who still have Josh Allen and the AFC East,
00:32:06the Jets are a joke disaster.
00:32:08Dolphins are a disaster for the most part.
00:32:10The quarterback, the Bears, they look around.
00:32:12I'm happy with the Patriots.
00:32:14I've given up now.
00:32:15It doesn't look like we can get the number one pick.
00:32:17We may win this game.
00:32:18We're not gonna make the playoffs.
00:32:20But for the first time in a couple years,
00:32:22since post-Brady, we can be excited.
00:32:24So I'm excited to see what Drake does.
00:32:27I think the Patriots could win this game.
00:32:28And if they do,
00:32:30you're gonna start seeing kind of cocky Dave
00:32:32start pumping his chest out a little bit.
00:32:35Start peacocking him a little bit.
00:32:37I haven't had that in a couple years.
00:32:39With the Patriots.
00:32:40With the Patriots.
00:32:41Yeah, you had Michigan.
00:32:41Well, Michigan national champions.
00:32:42But, you know, I'm back.
00:32:44Well, yeah, I win in everything for the most part.
00:32:46But to get them back, I feel very good.
00:32:50It, the NFL, if you hit on your quarterback,
00:32:54it's a decade.
00:32:55You have a decade of relevance just on that player.
00:32:58So I'm happy with Drake May.
00:32:59I'm excited for this game.
00:33:01I'm far more excited.
00:33:02If you told us three weeks ago,
00:33:04I'm gonna be the happy, cheery guy up here,
00:33:07and Dan's gonna be crying, and oh my God,
00:33:09and we're at square one.
00:33:11I'm very happy.
00:33:12It's been a pleasant surprise.
00:33:13So I'm taking the Patriots here.
00:33:14This is just like repeating groundhog day for you, Dan.
00:33:17Yeah.
00:33:18Are you taking the Patriots?
00:33:19I mean, it's crazy.
00:33:19No, the Rams are gonna win this game.
00:33:21The Patriots, listen, the Bears are a disaster.
00:33:24The Bears quit last week.
00:33:26The Patriots had 16 sacks going into the game.
00:33:28They had nine on Sunday.
00:33:30That's not what they are.
00:33:31The Rams offensive line's got a little healthier.
00:33:33They had a bunch of guys back on Monday Night Football.
00:33:35I think it'd maybe take a game
00:33:36to get everyone back up to speed.
00:33:39The Rams are in the gotta start winning now mode
00:33:43because they started slow this season.
00:33:45I think the Rams take care of business.
00:33:47Coach?
00:33:48The Rams bothered me on Monday night against Miami.
00:33:50Yeah.
00:33:51They bothered me, and I don't know
00:33:52if the Rams travel very well and play outdoors.
00:33:55No disrespect to Dave, but I hate the Patriots.
00:33:58I was trained to hate the Patriots,
00:34:00but the weather's gonna be crappy.
00:34:03Stafford and this dome operation they have in L.A.
00:34:06is gonna struggle.
00:34:07I think it's gonna be a gloomy, crappy day in New England.
00:34:09I think it's gonna be an ugly 16 to 10 type game,
00:34:13but I don't think the Patriots
00:34:15can block the Rams defensive line.
00:34:17This rookie from Florida State, he's something else.
00:34:20And he's got the other guy from Florida State, yeah.
00:34:22I call him enter at your own fisk.
00:34:24Yes, I love that.
00:34:25He is a hell of a young player.
00:34:26They have a very good front.
00:34:28I think the Rams can run the ball
00:34:30a little bit better than you think,
00:34:31and I just think Matt Stafford's gonna make
00:34:33two or three throws that piss you off, Dave,
00:34:36at the end of this game.
00:34:37I got the Rams winning ugly.
00:34:40You're still, you're staying with Patriots
00:34:42no matter what, right?
00:34:43Yeah, and listen, we're at the point of saying,
00:34:45am I gonna be devastated if the Patriots
00:34:47don't win this game?
00:34:47No, it's more, as a Patriot fan,
00:34:50really you're watching one guy, Drake May.
00:34:54You're like, that's what I'm trained on.
00:34:55That's what I'm watching.
00:34:56The results, sort of, they don't really matter.
00:35:00You wanna win, but it's like,
00:35:01we're not playing for anything right now.
00:35:03You're watching him.
00:35:05I want him to stay healthy, and I want every week
00:35:07to be like, yup, this is our guy.
00:35:08Let's build around him.
00:35:09And cocky Dave will come back if they win,
00:35:11or he'll start to come back.
00:35:12Cocky Dave's sort of like.
00:35:14Cocky, cocky.
00:35:15I mean, I just met Dave, really.
00:35:17I'm on the airplane last night.
00:35:18He said, I got six championships.
00:35:20I'm like, who?
00:35:22He said, I.
00:35:23Look behind you.
00:35:24He goes, I'm okay with losing.
00:35:26I have six championships.
00:35:27That's a real quote.
00:35:28That's Robert Kraft.
00:35:30You've given your life to football,
00:35:31and all you can do is win one.
00:35:32I know.
00:35:33He won six.
00:35:33You're an amazing guy.
00:35:34And then Austin, we were talking first football memories.
00:35:37Mine was the Super Bowl 20, Bears 85.
00:35:42And Austin says, my first memory was Tuckerville.
00:35:45Right in his face.
00:35:46Oh, right in his face.
00:35:48Damn, damn.
00:35:50Thanks a lot.
00:35:51Damn.
00:35:52Good one.
00:35:52Okay, coach, what's your playbook pick?
00:35:54Well, my playbook pick, last week I was at the game live.
00:35:57I saw Tampa Bay play the 49ers.
00:35:59So I'm gonna go with the Seahawks at San Francisco,
00:36:02and I'm gonna go with the San Francisco 49ers.
00:36:05I got a chance to see them offensively at full strength.
00:36:09McCaffrey played.
00:36:10Jawan Jennings was back.
00:36:12They still got Deebo Samuel,
00:36:13and the tight end Kittle's right now unstoppable
00:36:16in the red zone.
00:36:17They can run the ball.
00:36:18Mason's a hell of a back.
00:36:19McCaffrey can run it, so they keep each other fresh.
00:36:22They can control the game with their offense.
00:36:25I'm worried about their kicker.
00:36:26He missed a few last week.
00:36:28Now he just got off the injured list, Moody.
00:36:30Their defense is not what they once were.
00:36:33Tampa ran the ball down their throat.
00:36:35I was surprised by that.
00:36:36Moses got a little bit of a groin.
00:36:37They miss Armstead in there,
00:36:39but I still love Fred Werner.
00:36:41I think the 49ers are still gonna rise in the West
00:36:45and be a factor in the playoffs.
00:36:47I love Purdy, too, man.
00:36:48He's playing awesome.
00:36:49He can scramble and make plays.
00:36:50He's a lot better than advertised.
00:36:52The, yeah, Christian McCaffrey coming back,
00:36:54obviously, is huge.
00:36:55The 49ers are one of the six teams in the NFL
00:36:58that are under 50% in the red zone
00:37:00in terms of scoring touchdowns.
00:37:01You have to think that's McCaffrey, right?
00:37:03Yes, I do.
00:37:04Yeah, I think the Niners win the game,
00:37:08but I'm gonna take the Seahawks plus 6 1⁄2.
00:37:10They need these games.
00:37:11They're off a buy.
00:37:12I think you're just gonna get an all-out effort.
00:37:13The one question I had for you, Coach,
00:37:15I took notes about this.
00:37:18What do we make of the Seahawks
00:37:20releasing their leading tackler
00:37:22in the middle of the season?
00:37:23What is that?
00:37:24I don't buy, you know,
00:37:25your Bears have terrible body language.
00:37:28You have bad body language.
00:37:30So do the Seattle Seahawks.
00:37:31Their players are beating each other up on the sidelines.
00:37:34I just don't like them.
00:37:35They started off 3-0 for crying out loud.
00:37:38They have really slid,
00:37:40and I don't think Geno's taking care of the ball.
00:37:42I don't know if Metcalf's 100%.
00:37:45I just don't like the Seattle Seahawks at all
00:37:47going into San Francisco with the return of McCaffrey.
00:37:50Dave?
00:37:51I'm taking San Fran.
00:37:52I've never been a huge Seattle guy,
00:37:54and I think they're night and day road home,
00:37:56so I'll take San Francisco.
00:37:58Let's go to Fireball Rapid-Fire Picks of the Week.
00:38:01Dan?
00:38:02I will take it for Will.
00:38:03Cheers to Will.
00:38:04Congratulations to the family.
00:38:05Congratulations, Will.
00:38:06Congrats, Will.
00:38:07Congrats.
00:38:08The Rapid-Fire Pick segment is presented by Fireball Whiskey.
00:38:10So many things make football great,
00:38:11but what the best thing is
00:38:12is kicking the living shit out of your rival,
00:38:14and there's no better feeling as an athlete or a fan,
00:38:16and this week we've got the classic rivalry.
00:38:18Sorry, Dan.
00:38:19Packers at the Bears, as we mentioned.
00:38:20Fireball Whiskey is here to give you the spark
00:38:22to ignite that rivalry.
00:38:24All season long, grab your football buddy,
00:38:25buy a round, and reignite that rivalry flame.
00:38:28Dave, I'll start with you.
00:38:28The Jags at the Lions.
00:38:30Lions, minus 13.
00:38:31Massive line.
00:38:32Yeah, I mean.
00:38:33Mack Jones.
00:38:35Listen, he...
00:38:37Pro bowler.
00:38:38He is a pro bowler.
00:38:39Mack Jones is a pro bowler.
00:38:41That's a fact.
00:38:43Take the Lions here.
00:38:4513 points is a ton.
00:38:47One of the worst teams versus Super Bowl favorite.
00:38:51What more can you say?
00:38:52I mean, what else?
00:38:54This is quit watch for me, for the Jaguars.
00:38:56They have a bye next week.
00:38:57Trevor Lawrence is out.
00:39:00If they go down big to start this game,
00:39:02Doug Peterson's probably gone.
00:39:04Quit watch.
00:39:05And if a team quits, you've probably seen it.
00:39:08You know when a team quits.
00:39:09I can't wait to watch football with you.
00:39:11Yeah, I mean, listen.
00:39:12Quit watch, quit watch, quit watch.
00:39:14You are the most negative human being.
00:39:17Well, the Lions are incredible.
00:39:19The Lions do everything.
00:39:20The Lions threw, golf threw five picks,
00:39:23and they won the game.
00:39:24Against Houston on the road.
00:39:25Now that's insane.
00:39:27That was their defense was phenomenal.
00:39:29You know what Dan Campbell said at his press conference?
00:39:31I wish we could get that sound bite
00:39:32about we're gonna get knocked down.
00:39:34And when we're on our way up,
00:39:35we're gonna take a bite out of your kneecap.
00:39:37And that's just what they're doing.
00:39:39They are a bitch right now, to be honest with you.
00:39:42And I love the acquisition that they just made
00:39:45getting Smith from the Browns.
00:39:48And I think the Detroit Lions at home are gonna roll.
00:39:51Yeah, that second half.
00:39:53I mean, CJ Stroud looked like he could do anything
00:39:56in the first half.
00:39:56And then the Lions,
00:39:57they don't let him score in the second half.
00:39:59It was, that is, they're just a tough football team.
00:40:02You sold those t-shirts.
00:40:03Oh yeah, these were great t-shirts.
00:40:04By the kneecaps.
00:40:05I also think the Lions, like.
00:40:07I gotta get one of those.
00:40:08I love those, man.
00:40:10They're in like a fuck you tour
00:40:12where it's like 13 points seems like a lot,
00:40:14but I think the Lions just, they pour it on teams.
00:40:17Lions across the board.
00:40:18Okay, Dan, the Raiders at the Dolphins.
00:40:20The Dolphins minus seven.
00:40:21This game is tough.
00:40:22This game is tough.
00:40:24Raiders off a bye.
00:40:26They obviously get rid of Luke Goetze,
00:40:28go to Scott Turner.
00:40:29I think they're gonna try to run the ball a lot.
00:40:32Two is good, though.
00:40:33He's good.
00:40:35Where did Luke Goetze come from?
00:40:37Wasn't he with the Bears?
00:40:38Yeah, Matt Iberflug's had two offensive coordinators
00:40:41in his tenure and both have been fired this season.
00:40:44So that's good stuff.
00:40:46It's good stuff.
00:40:47I mean, maybe you're ruining these offense.
00:40:49No, maybe I'm right.
00:40:52You're saying that I'm right.
00:40:52The reason why I'm negative is because I'm right.
00:40:54You know that.
00:40:55It's tough.
00:40:55To his defense, it's tough not to be negative
00:40:58when you have two decades of-
00:40:59And it keeps doing the same thing.
00:41:01It's literally Groundhog's Day.
00:41:02It's Groundhog's Day.
00:41:03Why don't you go buy some White Sox tickets?
00:41:05Yeah, no, I got Cubs tickets.
00:41:07They gotta spend, sign Juan Soto.
00:41:09All right, so, hmm.
00:41:13I'll take the Dolphins.
00:41:14I don't love it though,
00:41:15because I think the Raiders do a pretty good job
00:41:17of limiting explosive plays
00:41:18and that's obviously what the Dolphins want to do.
00:41:21I love the Raiders.
00:41:22My son is with the Raiders.
00:41:24So out of loyalty, I should pick the Raiders.
00:41:26But since I'm on your show,
00:41:29I like what Miami's doing.
00:41:30Honestly, they went to Buffalo
00:41:32and could have won that game on the road.
00:41:34Then they went on the road in LA and beat the Rams.
00:41:38And now they're getting a home game.
00:41:39I think two is warming up.
00:41:41The Raiders fired not only their offensive coordinator,
00:41:44they fired their offensive line coach
00:41:46and their quarterback coach.
00:41:48And unless they had two-a-days during the bye,
00:41:51that's a tall order.
00:41:53I got the Dolphins trying to claw back into this race.
00:41:56I think they're gonna win this game at home.
00:41:57Yeah. Dave?
00:41:58Three and six Dolphins,
00:42:00just fundamentally touchdown favorite.
00:42:02Three and six, nope, can't do it.
00:42:03Can't take a three-win team laying a touchdown.
00:42:06I'll take the Raiders just to muck it up,
00:42:09stay within the number.
00:42:11Okay, coach, the Browns at the Saints.
00:42:13The Browns minus one.
00:42:15You know, after watching New Orleans last week,
00:42:16I know they'd made a coaching change.
00:42:19But the first five or six plays,
00:42:21the Saints came out
00:42:22and they looked like they looked the first two weeks.
00:42:24Their offensive line was coming off the ball.
00:42:27They ran the ball six out of the first eight times
00:42:29and they punished Atlanta.
00:42:31They set a tone.
00:42:32Their defense played with energy
00:42:34and Derrick Carr threw a couple deep, accurate shots.
00:42:37They're playing with receivers.
00:42:39I didn't even know were with the Saints.
00:42:41Mark has got him by the skin.
00:42:43Where'd they get him from?
00:42:43Yeah, he got him off the street two weeks ago.
00:42:45But they're finding a way to run the ball.
00:42:48Derrick Carr is still a very good quarterback.
00:42:50I'm taking the Saints at home.
00:42:52And their schedule is pretty favorable
00:42:54down the road as well.
00:42:55Yeah.
00:42:56Dan?
00:42:57Okay, so here's your first lesson.
00:42:58So you know football very well.
00:43:01Listen, we've been gambling on football our entire lives.
00:43:03You made a mistake here.
00:43:05What you said was right.
00:43:07The first quarter, first two quarters,
00:43:09Saints are flying around.
00:43:11That's Darren Rizzi, interim head coach.
00:43:13You always get that interim head coach bump.
00:43:15Second half, they had to hold on for dear life.
00:43:18They gave up over 100 yards more to the Falcons.
00:43:21I think it was 11 more first downs to the Falcons.
00:43:23The Falcons, on the box score, won that game.
00:43:26They had to hold on.
00:43:27The Saints did.
00:43:28They had that great pop.
00:43:29I think the pop goes out.
00:43:30I think the Browns are gonna win this game.
00:43:32You get one game with an interim head coach.
00:43:34Okay.
00:43:35Did you see him get the stinger after?
00:43:37Yeah.
00:43:37He was like dying on the field.
00:43:40One of his players hit him in the back
00:43:41and his whole left side went numb.
00:43:43Just a great, I like Darren Rizzi.
00:43:45He's got weird ears, but I like the guy.
00:43:47But it's over.
00:43:48The pop is over.
00:43:49Yeah, it's done.
00:43:50The Browns off a bye.
00:43:51Nick Chubb is back.
00:43:54He's got a couple games under his belt.
00:43:55I think the Browns are gonna pound the rock.
00:43:56The Saints can't stop the run.
00:43:58Interim head coach.
00:44:00We'll sit down and I can explain to you.
00:44:01Ed O.
00:44:02Coach Ogeron.
00:44:03The best interim head coach of all time.
00:44:05You get that one game pop.
00:44:07You get that one game pop.
00:44:09You know, you really do have issues.
00:44:11I do, I do.
00:44:12But you get that one game pop.
00:44:13Sometimes you get more pierced with the Raiders.
00:44:15Had it a little, but it got him the job.
00:44:17Really, the interim.
00:44:18Yeah, yeah.
00:44:19But he also, I can't remember what his first game.
00:44:22I know he won in the first game.
00:44:24I can't remember what the second game was.
00:44:25I think he won pretty decent on the stretch.
00:44:27This game I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.
00:44:29This is just a game that I have no interest in
00:44:32on either side, both teams.
00:44:34I mean, I heard coach say the Saints
00:44:35have a favorable schedule.
00:44:37I don't know what the hell that means.
00:44:38They're three and seven.
00:44:38They're dead.
00:44:39Like, get up to six wins.
00:44:42These are two teams that put them out to pasture.
00:44:45That was like when the Saints lost to the Panthers
00:44:48two weeks ago, and all the Saints players were like,
00:44:51man, we just lost to the Panthers.
00:44:52I can't believe this.
00:44:53And a Panther player responded to the tweet.
00:44:55He was like, we're both two and six, dude.
00:44:58What are you talking about?
00:45:00It was the same record.
00:45:01These are two bad football teams.
00:45:02I'll take the Saints because it's in the dome.
00:45:05But I mean, this is a gross football game.
00:45:08Yeah.
00:45:09Okay, Dave, the Vikings at the Titans, Vikings minus six.
00:45:12Vikings have slowed down, come down to earth
00:45:14after that fast start a little bit.
00:45:17I think the Titans stink, but I think they keep it close.
00:45:21Six points, I think the Vikings squeaked this one out.
00:45:24I mean, beat Jacksonville 12-7.
00:45:28The Vikings, I didn't know what to make of them
00:45:30with that fast start.
00:45:31I'm beginning to think they are exactly
00:45:33kind of what I think they are.
00:45:34I don't have, like, I don't put the Vikings
00:45:36as a true Super Bowl threat.
00:45:38So I think this is a close game.
00:45:40Vikings win, go to eight and two.
00:45:42I would put them in a fraudulent eight and two team.
00:45:45They are not an eight and two team
00:45:46that I think is eight and two good.
00:45:48Dan?
00:45:49I need your help here, coach.
00:45:50What are you seeing with Sam Darnold?
00:45:52Because that's the thing with the Vikings.
00:45:54Their defense, Brian Flores, the Blitz.
00:45:56I love Brian Flores.
00:45:57Their defense is winning them games.
00:45:59But Sam Darnold, this great start,
00:46:01and you've seen it slip the last couple weeks.
00:46:03Is it like, oh, that was a couple bad games?
00:46:07Or are you seeing the bad tendencies come back
00:46:09and it's now, they're gonna struggle?
00:46:11I just gotta clear my mind.
00:46:13A fraudulent eight and two team.
00:46:14I mean, a fraudulent eight and two, that is.
00:46:17That's a fact.
00:46:18Three syllable words are tough
00:46:19when you're talking football.
00:46:21I mean, if you look at all the teams in that,
00:46:23there's not one that I think I'd expect them to beat.
00:46:25It was the Vikings.
00:46:26Sam Darnold turned the ball over too much at USC.
00:46:29Yes, he did.
00:46:30He went to the Jets, he turned the ball over there.
00:46:32He's had some issues with turnovers.
00:46:34I've said it a lot to the people
00:46:36that I talk to about football.
00:46:38Can Darnold stay away from the turnovers?
00:46:41He intercepted three times last week against Jacksonville.
00:46:45I worry about that in the long run.
00:46:48I don't think they're fraudulent
00:46:50because they can play defense.
00:46:51Their kicker is hurt too, Minnesota's.
00:46:53I'm concerned about that.
00:46:54But I think they win an ugly football game.
00:46:57They have an excellent defense.
00:46:59I just, I don't trust Darnold with the ball.
00:47:02When I say fraudulent,
00:47:03do you think they're a legit Super Bowl contender?
00:47:05I really don't think there's many teams
00:47:07in the league that are.
00:47:08And I think in the NFC.
00:47:10Ooh, I like this.
00:47:11Give me the list.
00:47:12Well, I mean, there's Detroit.
00:47:14Yep.
00:47:15There's San Francisco.
00:47:16Yep.
00:47:17I'm starting to look at Arizona
00:47:18because of the quarterback.
00:47:20I mean, you want to be honest.
00:47:21They got a guy, my favorite player in the league
00:47:22is Buda Baker.
00:47:23You guys, no one really ever watches him.
00:47:25He's a weapon.
00:47:25He's unbelievable.
00:47:26Then he does back flips when he gets up.
00:47:29He knocks your ass off
00:47:30and he flips around right on his feet.
00:47:32Yeah.
00:47:33So when I say fraudulent,
00:47:34like if you told me the Cardinals met up
00:47:37with who you just said,
00:47:38a Detroit, a San Francisco,
00:47:39pulled a huge upset,
00:47:42that to me is believable.
00:47:44If you said the Vikings pulled a big upset,
00:47:46I'd be like, no shot.
00:47:47Yeah.
00:47:48So that's what I mean.
00:47:49I don't think so.
00:47:50Are the Eagles in your list?
00:47:51I think the Eagles are definitely in my list.
00:47:52And I'm interested to see that game tonight
00:47:53with Washington.
00:47:54Yeah, yeah.
00:47:55So then you agree with me.
00:47:56It's just different terminology.
00:47:58For eight and two,
00:48:00generally you would think,
00:48:01oh, that team could win the Super Bowl.
00:48:02I don't think that with the Vikings.
00:48:03That's what I mean.
00:48:04It was the Vikings from two years ago,
00:48:06whatever it was,
00:48:06when they won 12 games
00:48:08and they won everything by one score.
00:48:11And I was like,
00:48:12this is a fraudulent team.
00:48:13Then they lost to the Giants.
00:48:14Daniel Jones won a playoff game.
00:48:16That's insane.
00:48:17All right, wait,
00:48:18when you say win an ugly game,
00:48:19you thinking they're going to win like seven, eight?
00:48:22You know, they have the over and the under.
00:48:23I think it's going to be a very 13 to 10-ish,
00:48:2616 to 13 type.
00:48:2716 to 13?
00:48:28All right, so I got to take the Titans.
00:48:29It's going to be tight.
00:48:30I got to take the Titans.
00:48:31Yep, and under.
00:48:32Yeah.
00:48:32Okay, Dan, the Colts at the Jets,
00:48:34the Jets minus four.
00:48:36Hmm.
00:48:37I don't know what the Colts were doing with,
00:48:41I understand if the Colts,
00:48:42if Shane Steichen had said,
00:48:43we're putting Anthony Richardson,
00:48:45we're sitting him down
00:48:45just because we want to let him see
00:48:48some things from the sideline.
00:48:49But the message was,
00:48:50they're sitting Anthony Richardson
00:48:52to make a playoff push.
00:48:53And then Joe Flacco, who I love,
00:48:55goes, you know, oh and two.
00:48:57And now they're like,
00:48:58all right, now we're back to Anthony Richardson.
00:48:59It doesn't really make sense.
00:49:01It feels like he's coaching off vibes.
00:49:03The Jets are just a disaster.
00:49:06I guess I'll go with the Jets,
00:49:07but God damn, do they suck.
00:49:09They suck so bad.
00:49:10Actually, you know what?
00:49:11I'm going with the Colts.
00:49:12I'm going with the Colts.
00:49:14Why did you flip?
00:49:14You just flipped.
00:49:15Because I remembered,
00:49:16when Anthony Richardson is playing in the game,
00:49:18it opens a lot of lanes for Jonathan Taylor.
00:49:20You look at his rushing,
00:49:21when Joe Flacco's under center
00:49:23and when Anthony Richardson's under center,
00:49:25it's like a very, very big difference.
00:49:27I think the Jets cannot stop the run.
00:49:30They quit a little bit against Arizona.
00:49:33I think the Colts plus four,
00:49:34I think they'll be able to run the ball.
00:49:36Coach?
00:49:37I just can't believe I'm sitting here
00:49:38talking about the Jets.
00:49:40I picked the Jets preseason to be really good.
00:49:42I have no idea what is going on up there
00:49:45with their offense, with their team.
00:49:48I'm going to take the Jets.
00:49:49This is Aaron Rodgers.
00:49:50It's still Aaron Rodgers until the season is over.
00:49:53They just got Devontae Adams.
00:49:55And I know Adams is still Devontae Adams.
00:49:57Now they got to get their shit going.
00:49:59They got a good running back.
00:50:01I do not like what Anthony Richardson
00:50:03has put on tape this year at all.
00:50:04I mean, in one game, he was one for 15.
00:50:06It was so bad.
00:50:07And you can hand the ball off
00:50:08and carry out your fake
00:50:09and be a threat doing all that for so long.
00:50:12Sooner or later, Dan,
00:50:13you have to throw the ball to win games in the NFL.
00:50:16And I don't think the Colts can throw it
00:50:18right now with any confidence
00:50:20when Richardson is in the game.
00:50:21I'm taking Aaron Rodgers, Jets.
00:50:25I'm going to call fireman Ed.
00:50:26I got his number.
00:50:27You do?
00:50:28Yeah, I do.
00:50:29Yeah, you did the interview.
00:50:30Patriots actually, they murdered him the first time.
00:50:34They made him retire.
00:50:35Butt fumble game.
00:50:36He retired.
00:50:37He retired as a fan for a while.
00:50:38Yeah, the Patriots beat him up so bad,
00:50:40he's like, I'm done with this stuff.
00:50:41Dave, who are you taking?
00:50:42I'm going to take the Colts because of the points.
00:50:45I can't take the Jets right now
00:50:46as a four-point favor versus anybody.
00:50:48The Colts are a dead franchise.
00:50:49I do not believe when you draft a guy
00:50:52like they drafted Richardson,
00:50:53you can do what we said, which is bench him,
00:50:55put him back in.
00:50:56I feel like that's done.
00:50:57You basically have written the obituary.
00:51:00There may be facts of that happening.
00:51:02I can't remember a top draft pick coming back from that,
00:51:05but having said that, four points too much,
00:51:07I'll take the Colts.
00:51:08It also didn't make sense they drafted him that high.
00:51:09He wasn't good in college.
00:51:10I agree with that.
00:51:11He wasn't good.
00:51:12Okay, Coach, the Falcons at the Broncos.
00:51:14The Broncos minus two and a half.
00:51:16Man, this is a tough game.
00:51:17You know, the Denver Broncos quietly
00:51:19have put together a top 10 defense.
00:51:21I call them the anonymous crush
00:51:24because a lot of people, other than Sertan,
00:51:25you really can't name any Denver Bronco defensive players,
00:51:28but they're tough, man.
00:51:29They're tough on defense.
00:51:31Bo Nix is getting better.
00:51:33The Falcons, to me, have Kirk Cousins.
00:51:36They can score.
00:51:37They got a great runner.
00:51:38They got two very good running backs,
00:51:40but I don't like their defense.
00:51:41No.
00:51:42I don't like the way this Falcon defense is playing at all.
00:51:44I think Denver finds a way to win this game late.
00:51:47I think Bo Nix will make some plays with his legs.
00:51:50I think Denver gets back into the West race
00:51:52with a win at home.
00:51:54Dan?
00:51:55The defense is what you just said,
00:51:57and I completely agree.
00:51:58The Atlanta Falcons are 32nd out of 32 in pass rush.
00:52:02They don't get pressure on the quarterback.
00:52:03They don't get sacks.
00:52:05They just, it's just non-existent.
00:52:06They don't blitz.
00:52:07They don't do anything.
00:52:08Bo Nix, the Broncos offensive line
00:52:10is fourth in pass rush blocking.
00:52:13Bo Nix, when he's had time, has looked good.
00:52:16I love the Broncos in this game.
00:52:18Dave?
00:52:19Yeah, this is one of those watching football,
00:52:21just I'm trained for decades and decades
00:52:25that mile high is a tough place to play.
00:52:27So I look at their minus 2 1⁄2, 500 team.
00:52:30I give them more than the three points
00:52:33that most people save for home.
00:52:35I'll take the Broncos because I just think
00:52:36it's a very tough place to play,
00:52:38and they're a pretty good team.
00:52:39Yeah.
00:52:40Okay, Dan, Monday night football,
00:52:40the Texans at the Cowboys, the Texans minus 7 1⁄2.
00:52:43Okay, question for coach to start this one off.
00:52:46Saw a report, the Texans had a players only meeting
00:52:52on Monday, and they also had one on Saturday night,
00:52:57and there could be a third players only meeting
00:52:59in the coming days.
00:53:00That's too many players only meetings, right?
00:53:02Yeah, that's a lot of players.
00:53:03That's a lot of players.
00:53:04Where the hell are the coaches?
00:53:06That's a lot.
00:53:07What would your philosophy be when a leader of your team
00:53:11says, hey, coach, we want to do a players only meeting?
00:53:13Because my theory, and you can tell me I'm way wrong,
00:53:15I'm stupid, I think you get one shot.
00:53:17I think you get one players only meeting a year.
00:53:20After that, it's like, what are we doing here?
00:53:22You know, sometimes it's constructive,
00:53:23it's good for the team, it's healthy,
00:53:25because the players need to collaborate with each other.
00:53:28Sometimes the offense is over here
00:53:29with the offense all the time,
00:53:31the defense is over here with the defense.
00:53:32I remember in Green Bay when I was coaching,
00:53:35we just got Reggie White,
00:53:37and we were supposed to win the Super Bowl,
00:53:38and we started off bad.
00:53:40Holmgren was in a bad mood,
00:53:42and we had a players only meeting,
00:53:43and I can remember people calling out Reggie White
00:53:46in that meeting.
00:53:47I was told, hey, you got to quit talking
00:53:49and get to the quarterback.
00:53:50So sometimes these players only meetings are good.
00:53:53The Texans offensive line
00:53:55is supposed to be highly decorated.
00:53:57They got a lot of high picks.
00:53:59Everybody was talking about how great Stroud is
00:54:02and how great their protection is.
00:54:04They can't pick up a blitz right now.
00:54:07They are getting their ass kicked
00:54:08on the films I'm looking at.
00:54:10So maybe a players only meeting is a healthy thing,
00:54:13but three of them.
00:54:14Three of them.
00:54:15Three of them.
00:54:16Three of them.
00:54:17That's a problem.
00:54:18What are you going to do?
00:54:19How much do you need to talk?
00:54:20Yeah.
00:54:21Talk is cheap.
00:54:22Get out on the grass and beat the Cowboys.
00:54:24The Cowboys look like they need a fork put in them.
00:54:26Yeah.
00:54:27Oh, that was negative of you.
00:54:28Well, that was poor last week.
00:54:31Yeah, no, it was.
00:54:31I coached for the Philadelphia Eagles,
00:54:33and I didn't care what your record was.
00:54:35When you play the Dallas Cowboys,
00:54:37it brought out the best in everybody,
00:54:39and that didn't bring out very much good stuff.
00:54:42That was bad.
00:54:43They look like shit.
00:54:44All right, so you're taking the Texans?
00:54:45I'm taking the, well, he told me,
00:54:47was there three meetings or four?
00:54:49I'm going to take the Texans.
00:54:50Okay.
00:54:51I just pick teams to win.
00:54:52Yeah.
00:54:53I want to make sure I'm clear.
00:54:54I don't know all these spreads.
00:54:55Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:54:56You know, these high flares.
00:54:57I'm going to take the Cowboys to cover.
00:54:59Cowboys to cover?
00:55:00If you have three to cover, plus seven and a half,
00:55:03Cooper Rush.
00:55:05They may be better with him than Dak.
00:55:08I don't know about that.
00:55:09They may be better.
00:55:10They may be better.
00:55:11You're through for 41 yards, and he has 50, at least 41.
00:55:14Yeah, listen, I'm not Dak guy.
00:55:16He was all right last time.
00:55:17I'm going.
00:55:18Three, three, Dave.
00:55:20Three players, only me.
00:55:22Well, two pending ones.
00:55:23Two and then one pending, yeah.
00:55:24Texans were my preseason Super Bowl pick.
00:55:27I got caught up in the hype.
00:55:29However, they benefited from their division as trash.
00:55:33So they are going to be in the playoffs,
00:55:34and they still have time to figure it out,
00:55:37get the protection right.
00:55:38I still think, I think C.J. Stroud,
00:55:40any issues he's had has just been zero protection.
00:55:43So I'm going to take the Texans here.
00:55:45I hope they get back on the right side of things,
00:55:48but they got to start figuring it out fast.
00:55:50This is the time of year, week 10, week 11,
00:55:54teams that are for real start asserting themselves.
00:55:58Obviously, we know the ones that you get the Lions
00:56:00and the Chiefs.
00:56:01There's going to be teams that start getting hot now
00:56:03that we got to watch.
00:56:04Hopefully, the Texans are one, for my sake.
00:56:06The Cowboys are just...
00:56:07They suck.
00:56:08Let's just act like we're in a players-only meeting.
00:56:10Yeah.
00:56:11Let's say you're with the Texans.
00:56:12We're all Texan players, okay?
00:56:14They shut the door.
00:56:14We're all into Texans.
00:56:15We just lost on national TV after throwing,
00:56:18after we received five interceptions.
00:56:21Yep, yep.
00:56:21So what are you saying?
00:56:22What are you, what are we saying here?
00:56:23Block.
00:56:24Hey, you know, why don't you start blocking somebody?
00:56:26Hey, why don't you start, you know, get open.
00:56:29Yeah.
00:56:29Well, what the hell are we talking about here?
00:56:31I would probably say we fucking suck.
00:56:34Let's just, let's just go to Cabo.
00:56:36Yeah.
00:56:36Get your head out of your ass.
00:56:38Get a better attitude.
00:56:39To say that on Saturday night, though,
00:56:41and then to turn around and say it again on Monday?
00:56:43Yeah, bad.
00:56:44Like that doesn't make sense.
00:56:45Too many players-only meetings.
00:56:46Too many.
00:56:47Weird.
00:56:48Listen, Stephan Diggs, the bills are better.
00:56:53Texans seem worse.
00:56:54I don't know.
00:56:55He may be an addition-by-subtraction type guy.
00:56:58Yeah, Nico Collins will hopefully come back.
00:57:00Yeah, he's a monster.
00:57:01He is, he is, makes everything go.
00:57:04Okay, Dan, it's time for hot takes.
00:57:06Do you have a week 12 hot take?
00:57:10I think the Bears are gonna win outright.
00:57:14There's positivity, coach.
00:57:16You know, that's just pulling it out of his ass.
00:57:17I don't believe it.
00:57:19I don't believe it.
00:57:20You don't even believe what you're saying.
00:57:22Listen, here's, okay, all right, all right, all right.
00:57:24Hold on, I'm gonna tell you real quick.
00:57:26So you guys have a schedule in the NFL.
00:57:28You know, Monday, you let the players,
00:57:30you give the players off.
00:57:31You get in, you watch tape.
00:57:33Tuesday, what, they come in, they do a little light work.
00:57:35Wednesday, walk through.
00:57:37Thursday, pray, all that.
00:57:38I have a similar thing.
00:57:40Monday, I wanna put a gun in my mouth.
00:57:43Tuesday, I'm like, all right,
00:57:46what's the closest bridge I can jump off?
00:57:47Wednesday, I start to say, hmm, is there a chance?
00:57:50Thursday, I'm like, oh, maybe we could do this.
00:57:53And then when we get to Sunday morning,
00:57:55even though I know deep down
00:57:58the Bears aren't gonna win this game,
00:57:59I've told myself they're gonna win this game.
00:58:01So it's a process.
00:58:02So I'm working through the process.
00:58:04We're taping this on Thursday.
00:58:06The Bears are gonna win this game.
00:58:07You just seem to really set yourself up for discipline.
00:58:10Yes, yes, I do, time and time again.
00:58:12You know, you need to lower the bar.
00:58:14I do.
00:58:15When you trip, it doesn't hurt.
00:58:16Yes, yes.
00:58:17I did that, actually, last Sunday.
00:58:19I walked into the cave, and Hank was looking to, like,
00:58:21you know, get up.
00:58:22I was like, we're gonna lose this game.
00:58:24I called it right before.
00:58:25Yeah, that surprised me.
00:58:26Dave, do you have a hot take?
00:58:27Well, yeah, Connery said it.
00:58:28I think the Bengals win this week,
00:58:30and I think at those odds, what we say, 45 to one,
00:58:34that is a good pair.
00:58:35The Bengals are a team that you do not wanna mess with
00:58:39come playoffs.
00:58:39Coach said it earlier.
00:58:40He thinks if they get in, they're a Super Bowl contender.
00:58:42I still believe that, because that is how good
00:58:43Joe Burrow is, and they're loaded with weapons.
00:58:46Okay, Coach, do you have a hot take?
00:58:48That was really, that was really good, Dave.
00:58:51I mean, analysis was excellent
00:58:53compared to your comrade here.
00:58:56I'm still gonna say, my pick, really,
00:58:59is the San Francisco 49ers.
00:59:02Just seeing them live.
00:59:04You talked about the red zone offense.
00:59:06They were one of the top red zone offenses
00:59:07in the league last year.
00:59:08And when you study the red zone offense,
00:59:10like a sick human like me, just look at the red zone.
00:59:13McCaffrey running, catching the ball.
00:59:15The play action fakes to McCaffrey.
00:59:18I just think the 49ers are gonna smoke Seattle
00:59:21and really get going.
00:59:22Okay, all right, Dan, the survivor pool.
00:59:25So you and Jerry are both eliminated.
00:59:27Will has made his pick.
00:59:28He's taking the Dolphins.
00:59:30And, Coach, you get to pick.
00:59:32So you have to pick a team that's not the Chargers,
00:59:35the Bengals, the 49ers, the Jets, or the Commanders.
00:59:39To just win.
00:59:39To just win.
00:59:40Just to win.
00:59:41Just to win.
00:59:42Well, I'm gonna, can I say the Lions?
00:59:44Yeah, of course.
00:59:45I'm gonna say the Lions.
00:59:45Yeah, the guest chair is there.
00:59:47I'll bite your kneecap if they don't.
00:59:49Do we have Will's picks?
00:59:50Yeah, Will did send in all his picks,
00:59:52so we'll put up a big graphic with all of them.
00:59:53The only note that I thought I should share,
00:59:56he did all his research in the hospital room.
01:00:00For the Colts game, he said Aaron Rodgers is done.
01:00:03Blindfold him and take him out back.
01:00:05The real AR this week is wearing a Colts uniform
01:00:07as long as he hands the ball off.
01:00:09That last sentence.
01:00:10That's a very Will Consonant sentence.
01:00:13Anthony Richardson is the real AR
01:00:15as long as he doesn't throw it, ever.
01:00:16Yeah, no, the group text was going off last night
01:00:19because he said he's going crazy in the hospital room,
01:00:21and Dan, you immediately were picking apart his picks.
01:00:23You're like, this is wrong, this is wrong.
01:00:25Listen, we got some big, like,
01:00:27the Chargers-Bengals game is a big pick
01:00:29between the three of us.
01:00:30Yeah, that's a big pick.
01:00:31And that's a big disagreement.
01:00:32That's a big game in shaping the future of the season.
01:00:34Correct, correct.
01:00:35Because, yeah, we're the winner of that game, yeah.
01:00:38All right, anything else?
01:00:39No.
01:00:40Great to have you.
01:00:41Welcome, coach.
01:00:42Just one more thing with Jerry.
01:00:43What was this quote again?
01:00:44You wanted to kick my ass.
01:00:44Oh, I got it for you.
01:00:45Hold on, hold on.
01:00:46I'll read it, I'll read it.
01:00:47I don't want to mess it up.
01:00:48All right.
01:00:49I love to put the pads on
01:00:50and crack that motherfucker John Gruden.
01:00:52Guys, a scum crumb bum, I'd break his back.
01:00:56I love it.
01:00:57You know what we did after we beat your ass?
01:00:59We told the bus driver to drive around the stadium
01:01:02four or five times just so we could relish it
01:01:05while we drink another cold victory beer.
01:01:08Oklahoma drill later.
01:01:09No, I'm out, I'm out, I'm out.
01:01:11He wouldn't even go stand next to him.
01:01:13He's so scared of him.
01:01:14Yeah, I'm intimidated.
01:01:16It's all right, all right.
01:01:17Thanks, everybody.
01:01:17We'll be back next week.