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Bernie Sanders perfectly sums up Trump’s 2024 game plan in decades-old video
The Independent
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11/9/2024
Bernie Sanders perfectly sums up Trump's 2024 game plan in decades
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The question is, how does the Republican Party do so good?
00:03
And now I'm going to tell you something that very few people in Congress will tell you.
00:09
If you are the Republican leadership, and this is what your goals are.
00:13
Your goals are to give huge tax breaks to the very richest people in this country.
00:16
Your goals are ultimately to privatize Social Security so that Wall Street can make money from that.
00:22
Privatize Medicare so the insurance companies can make more money.
00:26
Privatize education. Do away with public schools.
00:29
If those are your goals and you said that to the American people, you think you got a lot of...
00:34
There are many members of the Congress today, Republicans, who not only will not raise the minimum wage,
00:38
which is $5.00, $15.00 an hour, you know what they will tell you, honestly?
00:41
They believe in abolishing the minimum wage. Did you know that?
00:44
Check it out. I'm telling you the truth.
00:46
So that if Americans can work for $3.00 an hour or $2.00 an hour, not a problem.
00:51
Now if you had an agenda like that and you went before the American people,
00:55
tax breaks for the rich, destruction of Medicare, destruction of Social Security as we know it,
01:02
lowering the minimum wage or abolishing it, how many votes do you think you'd get?
01:06
Not a whole lot. Maybe the richest 1% would vote for you.
01:10
That's not a lot of votes. So what do I do? I've got a problem.
01:13
You package it. How do you package it? And here I want you to pay attention to me.
01:18
This is bad stuff. I don't mind debating people who say, I was on the Hannity show, Sean Hannity yesterday,
01:24
and Hannity, extreme right wing guy, he loves these tax breaks for the rich and so forth,
01:30
so we had a little bit of a discussion about that. Actually it was a loud discussion.
01:34
But I don't mind people who are up front about that.
01:40
Give the rich more tax breaks, we can argue that.
01:43
But that doesn't win you elections. So this is what you do.
01:46
What you do is divide people up.
01:50
When you ask me your question, how do I get elected, I try to bring people together.
01:55
We fight for women's rights. We support the rights of minorities.
01:59
We support the rights of workers. We bring the majority of people together.
02:02
And occasionally honest people will have differences of opinion. In this room there will be differences of opinion.
02:06
But everybody in this room is in agreement that everybody should have health care, right?
02:10
Question number two, should we increase funding for education or should we lower funding for education?
02:15
Raise your hand if you think we should increase funding for education.
02:17
Okay, you're on the side of the vast majority of Americans.
02:21
So on those issues we bring people together.
02:25
Now what do the Republicans try to do?
02:27
And they use it in what we call, you know, kind of language that they're not up front about.
02:34
What do we do? We divide people up by races. Affirmative action becomes one issue.
02:38
All them black people are getting the jobs that we white people used to have.
02:42
Split people, working class, white against black.
02:45
Instead of working together to create decent jobs for all.
02:48
Those uppity women now, they want the right to choose.
02:52
We'll split people up on the abortion issue.
02:54
We'll split people up on the gun issue.
02:56
We'll split people up on religious issues.
02:58
You follow what I'm saying?
03:00
So you split people up and then they end up, if you're a middle class person,
03:04
voting against your own interests and the rich go laughing all the way to the bank.
03:09
Okay?
03:10
And they very often play white workers off against everybody else.
03:14
And we try to bring people together to say, look, we're all in this boat together.
03:19
Whether you're black or white, whether you're Hispanic, whether you're Muslim, whatever you may be.
03:24
Everybody needs healthcare.
03:26
How do we create a healthcare system that works for all people?
03:28
Not divide people up.
03:30
Everybody knows that the kids, young people, do not make it into the middle class
03:35
unless they have a decent college education.
03:38
So how do we make college education accessible to all people?
03:41
Not an expensive proposition.
03:42
A tiny, tiny fraction of the President's tax breaks for the rich,
03:45
if we put into financial aid, would make sure that every young person in this country
03:50
could go to college without going deeply into debt.
03:53
You know what? The vast majority of the people support us.
03:55
But in order to do that, we've got to bring everybody together.
03:58
And many of these, not all, and I'm not here to disparage all Republicans.
04:01
Some very decent people happen to be conservative.
04:03
I respect that.
04:04
But some people who I don't respect will play off women against men, black against white.
04:09
Oh, the gay issue. Very, very big issue.
04:11
Okay?
04:12
Straight against gay, right?
04:14
We're all supposed to hate gay people.
04:15
So we split that group up.
04:17
And then the argument, some of us are not patriotic.
04:20
We have concerns about the war in Iraq.
04:22
I voted against giving the President authority to the war in Iraq.
04:25
Well, that makes us unpatriotic.
04:26
We hate America.
04:27
Divide those things up.
04:28
And that's how they succeed.
04:31
And they succeed with the help of the media.
04:34
Because the media will not talk about how, in a sense,
04:37
the common problems that Americans face and how we bring people together.
04:41
And that's what I believe.
04:43
I believe that on issues like everybody in this room thinks, I think,
04:47
that instead of giving tax breaks to the rich, we should increase federal aid to education.
04:51
Anyone disagree with that?
04:52
Well, you know what? Most Americans agree with that.
04:54
All of you think that every American should be entitled to health care.
04:58
I suspect most of you think we should not have a trade policy
05:01
which allows corporations to throw American workers out on the street and run to China.
05:05
Most Americans agree with that.
05:08
And our job is to bring people together on common interests
05:12
and some of these extreme right-wing people.
05:15
You watch the issues that they talk about.
05:17
Affirmative action they use to divide.
05:19
The issue of abortion they use to divide.
05:21
The issue of guns they use to divide.
05:23
And our job is to say, let's focus on basic economic issues.
05:27
How do we expand the middle class?
05:29
This is a great country.
05:31
Why is it the average American is working longer hours for low wages than 30 years ago?
05:35
Let's talk about that.
05:37
Okay?
05:38
Okay.
05:39
That was a long answer to a good question.
05:41
I apologize for going on too long.
05:42
Other questions?
05:43
Yes.
05:44
Let me get to...
05:45
Did you ask the first one yet?
05:46
No, you didn't.
05:47
She did.
05:48
Okay.
05:49
Yes.
05:50
I just wanted to know how you feel about school vouchers
05:52
and do you feel that they benefit public schools?
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