VILLA GESELL: "NO TENÍAN AUTORIZACIÓN Y SIGUIERON IGUAL"

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Hablamos con Facundo Díaz Anzorena, abogado querellante. Se investiga la posible implicación de la corrupción en La tragedia ocurrida en Villa Gesell. El director de obras particulares del lugar, quien también figura como arquitecto de la obra, es objeto de sospechas. Mientras tanto, tres o cuatro albañiles están detenidos y se desconoce la situación del resto del personal. Se cuestiona por qué el arquitecto y el dueño no están detenidos a pesar de las evidencias que apuntan a su conocimiento sobre la falta de autorización para continuar con la construcción.   Seguí en #QuienCuandoDonde #QCD

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00:00Look, I have to tell you, the same thing Ale Puebla just told me,

00:05about the suspicions that corruption may have been the cause of this tragedy,

00:10according to the information we received,

00:13regarding, for example, the fact that the director of private villages

00:16appears in one of the posters as the architect of the building.

00:21And he became the director of private villages

00:24from the sale of the hotel,

00:26that is, when the Spanish businessman buys it.

00:29You, I don't know if you had this data,

00:31do you think it is logical that there are three or four albaniles arrested

00:35and the rest, we don't know what the situation is?

00:41Well, the situation, I tell you, Pablo,

00:43I still don't have total access to the file.

00:46This trip was precisely to meet, let's say, in person,

00:51our clients and our representatives.

00:54And as you say, now we have an albanile,

00:57and we have certain accusations,

00:59but this is a chain of accusations,

01:01because we can't basically blame the albaniles,

01:08the destruction or, let's say, that the building itself has fallen.

01:13This is a higher responsibility,

01:15and it goes from architects, engineers,

01:17to the lack or not of approval by the municipality.

01:21This is the very meticulous study of the responsibility of each person,

01:27and even of the owners themselves, right?

01:29Of course, of course. Fito?

01:31Facundo, who are you going to represent specifically?

01:39Hello, dear, how are you? Good afternoon.

01:42We are going to represent, well,

01:45the sister of the lady who passed away, Estefanik.

01:49Ah, look, the family that owned the building.

01:54That is, they are going to be...

01:56That was the owner, exactly, yes.

01:58They are going to be like creditors in this case.

02:02Of course, well, the code here is particular damaged.

02:05Yes, particular damaged in the province.

02:07We are going to be like creditors, yes.

02:09Yes, but people get lost.

02:11Yes, practically, yes.

02:13We all get lost, that's true, yes, of course.

02:16Excuse me, Facundo, you are going to have privileged information

02:18regarding how the hotel was, for example, at the time of sale.

02:22I think it is important, because it is being said

02:24that the hotel was in good condition,

02:26they wanted to do a business, and everything went very badly.

02:31Exactly, here, let's see, as you say,

02:35here you have to see first the state before and post

02:40of the repairs and all kinds of conduct

02:44that was carried out on the building,

02:47which, well, has ended with this disastrous and sad fact,

02:51with the loss of life, right?

02:53Especially with the loss of more furniture nearby, right?

02:57And I'll ask you a question,

02:59are you going to be in contact with the prosecution tomorrow?

03:05Yes, we are going to talk to the doctor who is intervening,

03:08with whom, well, our correspondent on the coast,

03:12Dr. Bravo, has already had contact.

03:15What I can tell you is that, basically,

03:18the justice, what it is trying now,

03:20is to try to get all the victims out

03:22who are inside the ruins, yes?

03:25Once this is done, it will be easier to carry out

03:28the corresponding inquiries.

03:30Imagine what inquiry can get a good result

03:34with what you are seeing behind me, right?

03:36No, Facundo, but that is clear, of course.

03:39Now, why are the Albañiles arrested?

03:42Why?

03:45What is the accusation, since they spoke?

03:48They managed to escape from an earthquake that fell on them.

03:52Because, in reality, those people are the ones who escaped.

03:55We are not talking about the man who made the hole in the elevator.

03:57No, we are not talking about...

03:59I have...

04:02Well, I have information, sorry, I'm talking to you.

04:04Yes, yes, yes.

04:05I have information in which, apparently,

04:08they were aware of the lack of sufficient authorization

04:12to continue building, and despite that,

04:15they continued with the order, let's say, of the superior,

04:18that at this moment we will have to see

04:20who was acting as the superior of these people.

04:23They are going to make me angry.

04:25That is the foundation.

04:27Facu, they are going to make me angry.

04:29This is the foundation, in the end.

04:31Do you hear me? They are going to make me angry.

04:33They are going to make me go to Gesell

04:35and assist those poor Albañiles

04:39who go out to earn a living, to work,

04:42and the architect is not arrested.

04:45The owner is not arrested.

04:47The owner is not arrested.

04:48The director of private works is not arrested.

04:50I tell you, really.

04:52And I ask you, Fito.

04:53Do you want me to go and present?

04:56I totally agree with you.

04:57I totally agree with you.

04:58Because we are already talking about Perejiles,

05:00and we don't have time to talk about Perejiles.

05:02Of course.

05:03And what we need is to get to the truth.

05:05I understand that the moment is the one of the search

05:07for the missing people, but I ask Fito

05:09and I also share with Facundo Díaz-Sanzorena.

05:11Can it be a strategy of learning,

05:14stopping, during the time given to me,

05:16the processing times, a little to the Albañiles,

05:19to get information, and in reality the final goal

05:22is to have the film clear to go in search of the owner

05:25and the architects?

05:26No, Bobby.

05:27Can't you do it with them freely?

05:28No, Bobby.

05:29You can't stop anyone.

05:30This is a practice.

05:32Exactly.

05:33No, no.

05:34Go ahead.

05:35I know what you are going to say.

05:37Say it yourself.

05:38Say it yourself.

05:39Whatever you want.

05:41I say it?

05:42Yes.

05:43It is a usual practice today of each court

05:45and of each public prosecutor's office

05:47that detention has been made common

05:49and then investigation.

05:51One knows here that if the person has roots,

05:53there is no risk of escape.

05:54And he cannot obstruct the process,

05:56he has to be free, whatever the crime,

05:59because that person, you can tell me,

06:01yes, but he killed 200 people.

06:03And if he was innocent and I had him arrested

06:06for so long.

06:07It is seen that you don't care.

06:08I am a very objective person.

06:10But here what is objected is the responsibility, doctor,

06:12and I think that in this I agree with Fito,

06:14and I give Fito a pass,

06:15who will have more legal foundation

06:17than I can have from the common sense.

06:19He is not a plumber who changes ceramics,

06:21he is not a carpenter,

06:22he is not an albanil who makes decisions.

06:25He is an architect.

06:26So it is rare that they are detained

06:29and they are not going to look for those

06:31who put the hook in this situation,

06:33unless they were not clear,

06:34or unless they are people who are on both sides of the show.

06:38Look, if it is an extortion method

06:40of the prosecutor's office intervening,

06:42it is wrong.

06:43Because if you are put in jail one day,

06:45or the prosecutor, or the prosecutor,

06:47they put you in jail one day,

06:48nobody wants to be in jail one day

06:50if he is innocent.

06:52If it is a method of investigation that exists,

06:55I don't say here because I don't know yet,

06:57if I didn't say it,

06:58if the method is extortion,

07:00it is wrong to the point that it deserves a dismissal.

07:04If they are really investigating,

07:08let those poor fried potatoes go to their house,

07:12put them in a home prison.

07:15If he was a worker,

07:16he was not a guy who was stealing,

07:18he was a guy who came to work

07:20and who almost pays more with his life.

07:22Do you think that person can know

07:25that he is taking a risk or something

07:27to put his own life at risk?

07:31And tomorrow I'm not going to...

07:33Wait a second.

07:34Yes, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.

07:36Tell us and now we continue.

07:37Well, I interrupt you there

07:38because what was taken into account

07:40and why the detention continues

07:43is because all the witnesses said

07:45that they did not know absolutely anything that was happening,

07:47they were surprised, the same Sonia.

07:49On the other hand, one of these fried potatoes

07:51what he continued to do was to know that he was going to fall.

07:54For some reason, his instinct was that the building was falling.

07:57He was afraid that the building would fall.

08:00That he was already living.

08:01And that's why, what they want to know is why.

08:03Since when, of course.

08:05Ale, Ale, Ale.

08:08Yes, but wait, Ale.

08:10You can't use the statement,

08:12you can't use the statement

08:14because if he kept quiet, he's free

08:16and because he told his feelings, he's going to be in jail.

08:19Well, first it is forbidden to use for detention.

08:23No, I'm telling you, I'm answering the prosecutor.

08:26Yes, yes, go ahead.

08:28I'm telling the one who made that decision.

08:30Fito, dear, excuse me.

08:34Likewise, you know, dear Fito,

08:37how this issue is,

08:39that in the face of a detention, I don't need so many elements

08:42to maintain the private measure, right?

08:45We have to see how it is defined

08:47and if it turns this detention

08:49into a preventive prison for the accused.

08:51Facu, I appreciate you,

08:53but you stay in jail.

08:57But you, as the role of the victim,

08:59you have to look for the architect,

09:02the civil servant, you go up there.

09:05Stay.

09:06I already know.

09:08It's like in the case of Maradona,

09:10we're going to touch on it later.

09:12Catch us with the nurse when there are doctors.

09:14It's exactly the same.

09:16Besides, in this scene, unfortunately,

09:18Facundo, Ale and Fito,

09:20let's see, there are workers who were saved

09:23because they noticed, in fact,

09:25they got under the bed,

09:26they got to, in some case,

09:28they saw that the problem was still going on

09:30and they came out shooting.

09:31But there are workers who are dead.

09:33Workers who are buried.

09:35The same situation.

09:36If they were free,

09:38those who are dead today,

09:40if they were alive, they would be in jail.

09:42Those who are dead.

09:44That's what I want to tell you.

09:45That's the illogical thing I think.

09:47But well, nothing,

09:48it's a discussion that I think

09:50the prosecutor's office will have to explain

09:52how it's going to be handled.

09:53And what's going to happen to the businessman,

09:55who is the owner,

09:56what's going to happen to the employees,

09:58and what's going to happen to the architects

10:00who were employees.

10:03Well, if the employees are there,

10:05the workers will have to be in jail.

10:07From my point of view,

10:09yes, if you allow me, look,

10:11I think this is a moment

10:13not to remember the causes of this same year

10:16and the events that have happened.

10:18The first moments are fundamental

10:20to be able to maintain an indictment.

10:23Because if not, then there are still people

10:25detained without being able to form

10:27or concretize a solid argument

10:29and say, you committed such a crime

10:31and you are reproached for such conduct.

10:33Period.

10:34Now is the right time.

10:36We are an assistant

10:38of the Prosecutor's Office.

10:40Yes, in the role we occupy,

10:42and we are going to help in the way we can

10:44if we are allowed, if the code allows us.

10:46But the investigation has to be precise,

10:50concrete and adequate from the first moment.

10:53That is what will allow us to say,

10:55here is the criminal responsibility of such a person.

10:58We will release him,

11:00we know that he has to go.

11:04Stay a little longer,

11:06because I want to consult you.

11:08They will let him in, Pablo.

11:10I wanted to ask you...

11:13Yes.

11:14Meanwhile, are you with Diego Traferi?

11:18Yes, we are with Diego.

11:20Greetings to Diego, who is doing a great job.

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