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00:00I can make the confession now, if you want.
00:08I have a death squad, but not the police.
00:15They are also the gangsters.
00:19I order one gangster, kill him, because if you don't kill him, I will kill you now.
00:27This is the confession of former President Rodrigo Duterte about the Davao Death Squad
00:31when he faced the Senate Blue Ribbon Committee that is investigating his war against drugs.
00:36You mentioned that you have your own hit squad.
00:40Is that what you're trying to tell us?
00:43So we won't get confused.
00:45Can we be very clear?
00:47This is not a death squad.
00:49This is a direct statement.
00:53This is not a death squad.
00:55As long as the people in Davao know that I am there,
00:59and you commit a heinous crime,
01:04and no one can go to the aggravated,
01:11that's me.
01:13What is the structure of that death squad?
01:17Structure against crime and criminals.
01:21And who is the victim?
01:22They all seem to be dead.
01:24It's okay, sir. What are their names?
01:27I cannot remember the name.
01:29I am 73 years old.
01:33I don't know why I am here in front of you.
01:37Are there rewards for those 7 people when they are killed?
01:42No, ma'am. They are rich.
01:44There are many idiots who are rich in Davao.
01:47What is the connection between the rich in Davao and the members of the death squad?
01:50They want to die.
01:52Because they want their safety to be safe.
01:55They are giving the rich people rewards for the death squad?
01:59Duterte is angry. As the president, he has no order to the police to kill those involved in drugs.
02:05Call of duty of the president.
02:08That's me.
02:10Because I was the president at the time.
02:13And I didn't just call, Mr. Senator.
02:20I warned all Filipinos.
02:26If you are involved in drugs, let it go. Drop it.
02:33Because we will have problems.
02:37There was a murder.
02:39But it was not a state-sponsored killing.
02:46But Duterte said that he asked the police to take care of the criminals involved in the fight.
02:51He also told the former police generals who came as part of the death squad.
02:56All of these on my right side,
03:00were taken by the chief of police, police director.
03:07All of them were commanders of the death squad.
03:14Senator de la Rosa.
03:18That's a death squad.
03:21Because they were police directors handling the controlling crimes in the city.
03:34So when you say death squad, it's a very loose term.
03:40I mind very much me being associated with the DDS.
03:44Because during that time, when I was the city director,
03:47it was really a problem for us.
03:50Especially the unsolved killings.
03:53I think he's just joking, sir.
03:55There's nothing to say that you killed him.
03:58There's nothing like that, sir.
03:59So it's just a matter of taking things on your hand.
04:02He really said it as a joke.
04:04And in fact, he replied afterwards.
04:07He said that the police and death squad are not together.
04:10Earlier, you said that you encouraged the PNP to encourage the suspect to fight.
04:18Yes.
04:19To kill.
04:20Yes.
04:21To say that it's a fight.
04:22Correct.
04:23Correct.
04:24To minimize.
04:25It was very incorrect.
04:26Correct.
04:27Yes.
04:28Let me go back, sir.
04:29I will do it again.
04:31Double.
04:33Duterte also faced the hearing of former Senator Laila Dilima.
04:36Just one seat between the two.
04:39In front of Dilima and the relatives of those who died under the Duterte drug war,
04:43Duterte said that he will not apologize,
04:45even though he promises responsibility for the campaign.
04:48Do not question my policies.
04:52Because I offer no apologies.
04:57No excuses.
05:00I did what I had to do.
05:04And whether you believe it or not,
05:08I did it for my country.
05:12For all of its successes and shortcomings,
05:18I and I alone take full legal responsibility.
05:28I will be held accountable.
05:30And I will be jailed.
05:32Not the police who followed my orders.
05:35Pity them.
05:37They are just working.
05:39He was inducing, encouraging the killings.
05:45And it cannot just be purely rhetoric.
05:49Because he followed his promises.
05:54He followed his promises to kill those people.
05:59Whether they fight or not,
06:02we will not be able to answer him.
06:04After all these years.
06:06And these killings had started
06:09when he was still a mayor.
06:12I think that's too much to say that everyone fought.
06:17We don't even have the death penalty.
06:20There is no honor in punishment like tokhang.
06:25It should not be an honor to be called the punisher
06:29when thousands of innocent people, including babies,
06:33have died in your name.
06:35The war on drugs will never be raised by the Filipinos.
06:41Some of the children of those killed in the drug war are in custody.
06:44Including Kian De Los Santos,
06:46a 17-year-old student who was shot and killed by the police in Caloocan
06:50because he fought back in 2017.
06:53It was proven that he did not have a gun
06:55and that he did not fight the police.
06:58My brother, the President-elect, is ashamed of what happened.
07:02We have not yet obtained justice.
07:08We won the RTC.
07:10We have not yet obtained justice.
07:14The President-elect directly asked
07:17if he accepts the full responsibility for the death of Kian
07:20and the other people who were killed in the war on drugs.
07:23I take full responsibility for that.
07:26Yes, and what about the result of the police
07:28that thousands of people were killed, including Kian De Los Santos?
07:32Do you also take full responsibility for that, Mr. Chair?
07:35No.
07:36No?
07:37How about Carl Anthony Nunez?
07:41Before you ramble on those many things.
07:43No, no, no. I'm not rambling, Mr. Chair.
07:45My questions are very specific.
07:47No, the law is specific.
07:49Guilt is personal.
07:52Ask the lawyer first.
07:54It's okay. I can ask the lawyer.
07:56Go ahead.
07:57Ask him first before we proceed.
07:59No, no, no.
08:00I have prepared these questions with my legislative staff.
08:03Guilt is personal.
08:04Yes, it's very personal.
08:06You can't pass that to others.
08:08No, no, no. This is not passing.
08:10Blue Ribbon is investigating the war on drugs
08:13and the result of extrajudicial killings.
08:16Now, let me ask you about Carl Anthony Nunez.
08:19Do you take responsibility for his death?
08:22You didn't get the policy of the President.
08:26I got it. I'm also a policymaker.
08:28I was talking about the policy.
08:30I take full responsibility for what I said about the war on drugs.
08:36You said, sir, you can hold me responsible for any death.
08:41Yes, sir. You spoke about specific crimes.
08:45If I say I will take full responsibility,
08:49when we go to court, they won't accept it.
08:54Well, Mr. Chair, and if the resource person could keep his volume and pitch to a normal level.
09:01Mr. Chairman, you are trying to pin me down.
09:03Mr. Chair, you are pinned down by your own statements of October.
09:08No, no, no, Mr. Chair.
09:10I'm not trying to pin you down on air.
09:13I'm no longer productive.
09:15Do not pin me down on semantics.
09:18Retired Col. Ruyina Garma, who has a reward system for the police for the drug war, also agreed.
09:25Former Mandaluyong Police Chief, Col. Hector Grijaldo, also agreed.
09:29He said, he was ordered by the House Squad Committee to confirm the so-called reward system.
09:34If Dan Fernandez put the paper he was holding on the table and told me,
09:39this is what you will say in this statement.
09:43This is the supplemental statement of Col. Garma.
09:48Tell me you know the reward system.
09:52Just confirm it.
09:54They want to lie to me, Your Honor.
09:59Congressman Dan Fernandez and Benny Abante could deny this.
10:03The statement of Grijaldo was called and falsified by Fernandez.
10:07According to Fernandez, Grijaldo was called because according to Garma,
10:11he can support his statement about the reward system.
10:14But Grijaldo did not insist on saying that he does not know about this.
10:18The statements against them were discredited by the committee.
10:22Abante said that he did not insist on signing any affidavit in exchange for the possibility of promotion.
10:28In the Senate hearing, Ermina Espino alias Mooking also denied Garma's allegation
10:34that when the Assistant Secretary of the Presidential Management Staff was Espino,
10:37he was the one who issued the fund for Pabuya.
10:40Some former PNP chiefs in the Duterte administration were also denied,
10:43including Senator Bato de la Rosa, who held a briefing between them
10:48and former Col. Edalberto Leonardo about the drug situation of the country
10:52before they became chiefs of police.
10:54For GMI Integrated News, I am Rafi Kim, your witness.
11:00You said, sir, you can hold me responsible for any specific crime.
11:06Yes, sir. You spoke about...