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SBI Chairman CS Shetty On Ratan Tata: 'Every Lender Knows Tata Group Always Honours Commitments' | NDTV Profit
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CS Setty, chairman of SBI, who tells us about his experiences and interactions with the
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visionary leader Ratan Tata.
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Yeah, it's indeed a great loss to the nation in general and the industrial landscape in
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the country.
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We have a very deep relationship as SBI with the Tata Group dating back to early 20th century.
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And we've been associated with Tata Group across their business segments, be it steel,
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Tata Motors, you name the company.
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I think most of the major companies of Tata Group, we are the bankers to them.
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And what is very striking in our relationship is the mutual understanding and mutual respect
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for each other's values and the protection of that value system of SBI as well as Tata
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Group has been phenomenal.
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I think I'm sure the personality behind this extremely valuable corporate governance in
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the Tata Group has been Sri Ratan Tata, to that extent, yes, it is a great loss for all
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of us that we lost an iconic leader in the industry.
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So based on your interactions with Tata Group, as well as Mr. Tata himself, what were the
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two, three standout circumstances, situations with regard to corporate governance or beyond
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from a value system perspective that maybe you can highlight, would be great perspective
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for viewers and us on a day like this?
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No, no, sure.
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I think the comfort most of the lending community, almost, almost every lender in the system
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had with the Tata Group is their commitment to honoring their obligations to the lenders,
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come what may.
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Under most difficult circumstances, also, they've never had a rethinking and honoring
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their commitments.
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I think we've been part of many of their acquisitions and new age business segments, which they've
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entered.
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For instance, we were part of Korus Acquisition, we were part of JLR Acquisition.
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Whatever the difficulties, these post acquisitions have happened, they never have come back to
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the lenders and said that, you know, we will not be able to meet any obligations.
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The most important event, which I would like to share with all of you is when Tata Tele
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Services was not doing very well, they came back to the lenders and said that, you know,
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we would like to pay back all the loans.
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In fact, every rupee under Tata Tele Service debt obligations were met.
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Not only that, the way the Tata Tele Services business has been handled in terms of protecting
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the employees, protecting the lenders, protecting the vendors, I think it was an amazing chapter
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in the Indian corporate history, in my view, in terms of how the corporates have to deal
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with the Indian banking system is something which is to be written in golden letters,
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the way they handle the Tata Tele Service.
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There are many such incidents where, you know, we have been time and again, have been conveyed
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that the value system of Tata Group is paramount to them than anything else.
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I think this has been the greatest legacy Ratanji has left for all of us to emulate.
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Case study in itself, right, sir, and the fact that he actually handed over leadership
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to someone who was independent, who's not essentially from the family, but is independent
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and of course, has taken up the role with such great capability and has done so well
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over the last, you know, maybe four to five years, the way in which Tata Stocks have performed,
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this goes on to prove, right, sir, that, you know, some of the decisions they make really
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stand out.
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Absolutely.
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Absolutely.
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I fully agree with you.
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I think it is also a foresight.
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I think many, many of you have written and said that the Tata Group not only had continued
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to improve upon their conventional industries, but they brought a lot of innovation.
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And I also have been pioneering entering into many industries, which are sunrise industries
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as we speak now, whether it is semicon industry or defence industry.
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I think they've done phenomenally well in terms of reimagining and staying relevant
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to the changing times.
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I think that is a greatest, you know, compliment, which we can always pay to the Tata Group
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under Sridhar Sanjay and of course, Mr. Chandra.
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Right.
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And so my last question is on the fact that both SBI and Tata Group are known for two
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major pieces.
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One is the kind of scale both of you as organizations have.
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And second is the longevity of both SBI as well as Tata Group.
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Just talk us through what you believe was the secret sauce.
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And isn't Mr. Tata really the essence of that to try and kind of eclipse that?
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Just give us some perspective.
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You know, you are very right.
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I think both the groups have the legacy, which every one of us try to improve upon.
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I think the effort of the leadership in both the groups has been that, how do you maintain
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the DNA of the value system and live up to the expectations of the people?
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Apart from the size and longevity, let me also tell you that both of us are household
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names in various forms, you know, we are associated with every Indian family and we touch several
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Indians every day and every moment of their life.
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And this casts a greater responsibility for groups like SBI and Tata Group.
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And I think the leadership and every one of the employees who work in these groups strive
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to live up to that expectation that there are crores of people who are consuming our
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services and goods and they trust us.
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And this trust can never be belied or, you know, denied.
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And that is the fundamental DNA of these groups for their successful reinvention and
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reimagination, staying relevant across the generations.
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