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10 Creepiest Lyle and Erik Menendez Interview Moments
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10/3/2024
When the Menendez brothers give interviews, creepy things tend to be said. Welcome to WatchMojo, and today we’re breaking down the most chilling moments from the Menéndez brothers’ case — in their own words.
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We turn next tonight here to the case that captured the attention of this country,
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the Menendez brothers, Eric and Lyle.
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Welcome to WatchMojo, and today we're breaking down the most chilling moments
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from the Menendez brothers' case, in their own words.
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I learned from the time I was a small boy to hold in pain and not express it physically.
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August 20th, 1989. The Menendez murders. Eric tells all.
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Later that night, my dad was pounding on my door, telling me to open up the door in my bedroom.
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I remember holding the gun, sitting on my bed, waiting to see if he was going to break down the door.
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As we'll get into a little later, the Menendez brothers have always said
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that Jose and Kitty Menendez's abuse was so bad that it caused them to fear for their lives.
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To that end, Eric's comments about the night of the murders themselves will put a chill down your spine.
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I remember this terror coursing through me that this was it. It was all going to happen now.
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You know, for the first time, I was going to confront my dad, not back down.
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Eric asserts that in the midst of building family tension, Jose pounded on his door.
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Eric feared that he would be killed.
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As the younger brother elaborates, Eric claims to have been sitting in bed with his gun in hand,
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waiting for his father to make a move.
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While, per Eric's account, Jose eventually gave up, this incident foreshadows the horror that was to come.
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In my mind, it didn't even matter that I was holding this gun.
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I felt like as soon as dad broke through that door, I was going to die.
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But I didn't care, because I was never going to let dad come in my room and do that again.
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It was the same life before or afterwards.
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With more money.
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With more money.
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Speaking to Barbara Walters for ABC's 2020 after their stunning sentence had been handed down to them,
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Lyle and Eric answered some of the nagging questions that remained after their years-long ordeal in court.
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Walters' characteristically blunt interviewing style left no stone unturned,
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nor did it let the Menendez brothers off the hook.
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It got to a point where I have all this money and so much pain, I don't know what to do with it.
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And eventually...
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I don't know, you're losing me.
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At one point, the veteran journalist drilled down on the brothers' $700,000 spending spree.
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Walters demanded answers as to how two people could even feel like shopping for luxury items
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after having committed such a heinous crime.
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In response, Eric revealed that no amount of money could fill the hole they had created,
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and that it might have simply been a coping mechanism.
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I don't think that it's understandable.
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People react to a traumatic event like that in different ways.
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Just a normal kid. 2020.
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I don't know if anyone can be portrayed fairly in the media who they are.
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Well, let me say it.
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There are people, a great number of people, who think that you two are spoiled brats.
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In the same 2020 interview, Walters asked the brother about media speculation regarding the case,
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their upbringing, and even themselves.
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Lyle and Eric commented that this speculation did not affect the facts of the case,
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nor did it imply their guilt.
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That's not who I am, but I can't defend that.
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Because I came from a family of wealth, it doesn't make me spoiled.
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In response to Eric's claim that he's a quote-unquote normal kid,
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Walters is bewildered and reminds him that he is a convicted murderer,
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found guilty of having taken both of his parents' lives.
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While Eric's statement may seem absurd on the surface,
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his follow-up, in which he declares himself to be a normal person
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who has gone through abnormal experiences, places it in context.
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Appearances are indeed often deceiving.
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But I don't think you aren't guilty because they found you spoiled.
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Or evil.
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Or evil.
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Just a normal, just a normal kid.
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Oh, Eric, you're a normal kid who killed your parents.
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Preparation for prison. ABC World News Tonight.
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I am the kid that did kill his parents,
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and no river of tears has changed that,
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and no amount of regret has changed it.
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Lyle's 2017 press interview,
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his first in over 20 years since the in-person Walters interview,
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revealed a calmer, more mature Menendez brother.
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While sticking firmly to his long-held positions regarding the case,
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Lyle expressed remorse and lamented the futility of the case,
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sharing that he and his brother's decision to kill their parents
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could likely have been avoided with greater forethought.
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My own childhood prepared me surprisingly well
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for the chaos of prison life.
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The elder brother's more revealing quote from the interview, however,
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was a remark that illustrated the depths of Jose's depravity.
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That is, Lyle's childhood had essentially trained him to handle prison.
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It's still a failed, destructive ending.
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That's part of the tragedy of it.
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It could so easily not have happened.
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New allegations against Jose. 48 hours.
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For me, it was very meaningful to just have things come out
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that caused people to really realize,
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okay, at least this part of what it's about is true.
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Throughout the Menendez brothers' trial,
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a massive obstacle that they ultimately failed to overcome
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was the lack of physical evidence of the alleged abuse they suffered.
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While those allegations were backed up by court testimony,
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as well as written and verbal accounts on Lyle and Eric's part,
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they were still found guilty and sentenced to life in prison
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without the possibility of parole.
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What do you remember about the Menudo Band members going to your home?
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Only that my father had sort of intimate involvement
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with that particular group.
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They usually would not have too much involvement
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with groups other than negotiations.
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However, in 2023, new evidence came to light
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that tentatively carried the potential of freeing the brothers.
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Roy Rossello, a member of Puerto Rican band Menudo,
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claimed that Jose Menendez had drugged and assaulted him as a minor.
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Lyle's recollection of Menudo visiting the family home
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will surely creep you out.
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People in the industry were talking about
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that maybe something had happened
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because there was a sex scandal in the group.
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Trading it all away.
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Dateline NBC.
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I would trade my entire defense for a 30-second video of my father.
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In a phone interview with Dateline NBC's Keith Morrison,
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Lyle Menendez put the abuse his father inflicted upon him
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in no uncertain terms.
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When asked by the investigative journalist
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if he was avoiding responsibility by blaming the aforementioned abuse,
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the elder Menendez brother asserted that, in essence,
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a video of his father's atrocious behavior
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would trump any legal defense and convince any juror.
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I would trade my whole case for it
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because I think it's so sanitized and so easy to use the word abuse
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over the abuse that abuse wasn't so bad.
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Pressed by Morrison as to why the brothers didn't simply pack up and leave,
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Lyle countered by declaring that no matter where they tried to run and hide,
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their father would catch them,
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and that the consequences would be dire.
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We finally just kind of got overwhelmed with this panic and emotion
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and made the decision to run in that room.
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Lyle's devil's pact. Dateline NBC.
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I said nothing.
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And I just feel like part of that pact I have with my dad
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is I'm keeping this secret.
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Lyle commented on the events of the case with years worth of hindsight.
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Perhaps one of the interview's most chilling moments
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was Lyle's articulation of his feelings regarding Jose's alleged abuse.
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And for you to have done this to my brother,
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it was like I kept my part of that sort of devil's pact.
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And you didn't.
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Reflecting on keeping the abuse under wraps,
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Lyle described feelings that are unfortunately all too common
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for victims of such mistreatment.
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Most uncomfortably of all, Lyle stated that his mother felt
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that the boys had somehow come in between her and her husband.
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While, of course, the truth in the Menendez case is likely unknowable,
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details like these provide uneasy insights into the minds of abusers.
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You know, reflecting afterwards, you know, it haunts me.
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It does haunt me.
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on taking their mother's life, 2020.
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And my mother was on the couch, and she had been drinking.
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And she said, what's wrong with you?
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And I said, nothing, nothing. You wouldn't understand.
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It's inarguable that the Menendez case has been endlessly debated,
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scrutinized, poured over, and analyzed.
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What is often easy to forget, however,
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is that there are real human players at its core,
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not just characters in a Netflix miniseries.
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As such, hearing about the actual abuse that the boys are alleged
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to have suffered will tend to remind you of that.
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What do you think? I'm stupid.
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And she told me that she knew,
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that she had known all my life what my father was doing.
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When prompted by Walters to explain why they had decided to kill their mother,
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Eric's response is stomach-churning for a number of reasons,
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chief among them, a clearly emotional Eric's account
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of confessing the abuse to Kitty Menendez goes terribly awry,
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with his mother revealing that she had always known,
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and that she blamed her sons for it.
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And I just saw dad and mom as the same person at that point.
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I saw them as a single person.
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Why they did it, 2020.
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Do you still think about the night of the murder?
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Every day.
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You both do?
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Since their 1990 arrest, the Menendez brothers have maintained
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that their decision to permanently take care of their parents
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was motivated not by greed or bitterness,
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but retribution for past abuse,
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as well as alleged threats on their lives.
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First thing that comes to mind is terror.
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I was so afraid.
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A few days before, I had said to myself,
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I'm never going to let my father touch me again,
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after I told Lyle that it had been continuing on.
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When prompted by Walters to comment on what had caused them to snap,
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Eric and Lyle shared that in their view,
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they were afraid that their father, Jose Menendez, would snap first.
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It goes without saying that while the events as described by the brothers
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are horrifying and heartbreaking,
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it is shiver-inducing to hear the reasoning, rationale,
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and level of insight that would lead to such an atrocity.
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But you'd bought the guns.
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It wasn't something that just happened that moment.
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You'd thought about it.
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No.
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You bought the guns in advance.
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They just weren't in the house.
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Yes, we bought the guns in advance.
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So, this didn't just happen that moment.
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I learned from the time I was a small boy
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to hold in pain and not express it physically.
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Regardless of personal beliefs,
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it seems safe to say that as described by Lyle and Eric Menendez,
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the abuse they claimed to have endured was soul-crushing,
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mind-numbing, and everything in between.
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For a disturbing concrete example of this,
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look once more to Eric's own words as part of A&E's
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Eric Tells All docu-mini-series.
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It came all the way down to not being allowed to cry,
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not being allowed to express pain.
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And what would happen when I expressed pain,
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shame, or I would get hit for that.
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The younger brother claims that Jose's boys were forbidden
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from demonstrating any kind of emotion,
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and that he, quote,
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trained them to repress their pain and inner turmoil.
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As such, Jose allegedly forced Lyle
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to strike Eric's, quote,
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pressure points until he was in agony.
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As Eric describes,
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any resistance only led to harsher treatment.
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If you or someone you know is struggling,
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please don't hesitate to call
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the National Domestic Violence Hotline
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at 1-800-799-SAFE or 7233.
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