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"Ham Hukumat nahi Hai..." Nasir Hussain Shah Kay Bayan Par Zain Qureshi ki Tanziya Hansi
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9/29/2024
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"Ham Hukumat nahi Hai..." Nasir Hussain Shah Kay Bayan Par Zain Qureshi ki Tanziya Hansi
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00:00
Shah sahib, Baitaj Badshah has gone for a consensus with Zardari sahib
00:04
and if the consensus doesn't develop,
00:06
Zardari sahib being the president,
00:08
Bilawat Bhutto being so active with Zardari sahib,
00:11
then this will be a very strange thing.
00:13
PTI is saying that only talks are being held to develop the consensus,
00:18
but PTI is not being made a part of it.
00:20
Is there any flaw in it that Pakistan should formally contact Tehreek-e-Insaf
00:26
instead of, like Rana sahib said,
00:28
the opposition has to reach out to the government.
00:32
You got the 18th amendment done,
00:34
you got an exhaustive debate of 355 hours,
00:39
you reached out to the opposition yourself.
00:41
So is there still a flaw in reaching out, Shah sahib?
00:45
First of all, we are not the government.
00:50
We are not a part of the government's executive.
00:54
Shah sahib, I agree.
00:56
I'm sorry I'm cutting you short,
00:57
but I'm saying that you don't even have a government.
01:01
You're not the government, but...
01:03
I'm coming to that.
01:05
Look, the way this session was called on Saturday and Sunday,
01:10
whatever was tried, whether it was done or not,
01:14
the role of the People's Party at that time was to consult with everyone.
01:19
That's why we were going to Maulana sahib,
01:23
we were talking to Mengel sahib.
01:25
I have a lot of respect for PTI's friends,
01:29
I have a lot of respect for Qureshi sahib,
01:32
I have a lot of respect for Pir Khan Wazir.
01:35
But look, this is the only People's Party,
01:39
its chairman is Bilawal Bhutto Zardari,
01:41
who is also going to the bar,
01:43
putting everything in front of everyone,
01:46
because we are absolutely clear.
01:49
We are supporting what is in our manifesto,
01:53
the constitutional courts for which we are speaking are in our manifesto.
01:58
The age limit that we are talking about,
02:01
to make it 40,
02:03
that was in our 73rd constitution,
02:06
which our martyr Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto sahib gave,
02:09
which later Zia ul Haq, or Musharraf sahib,
02:13
made it 40 to 45,
02:17
and many other things were implemented in it.
02:21
We are talking about those kinds of things.
02:23
There are a lot of issues,
02:25
on which we also have objections,
02:27
and we have made it clear that
02:29
we will not support any person,
02:33
if there is any such person.
02:35
But what can we do about it?
02:37
If there is a discussion,
02:39
then that is what we are doing.
02:41
We are not doing it in secret.
02:43
You remember,
02:45
Why isn't the constitution coming forward?
02:47
If the constitution can come in front of Maulana sahib,
02:51
he is also saying that there was no constitution,
02:53
there was no final,
02:55
and the PTI is also saying that there was no constitution.
02:57
The committee that was formed, 16 plus 5 senators,
02:59
there also there was no constitution.
03:01
Then where is the constitution?
03:03
Yes, it should come there.
03:05
Our position is that
03:07
at least the committee
03:09
should be brought in front of it.
03:11
But there is a procedure,
03:13
which is correct,
03:15
which is that
03:17
first the discussion
03:19
or the parliamentary parties,
03:21
their committees are formed,
03:23
then it is discussed,
03:25
then if there is a consensus on it,
03:27
or majority is in agreement,
03:29
then it is passed in the cabinet,
03:31
and then it is laid down.
03:33
This is the process.
03:35
This should happen.
03:37
Will this happen or not, Shah sahib?
03:39
Because even now,
03:41
if this constitutional amendment is put forward again in October,
03:43
this means that
03:45
before the constitutional amendment is put forward,
03:47
this consensus should have been developed.
03:49
October is just around the corner, Shah sahib.
03:51
Yes, this should happen.
03:53
I am just talking about one thing.
03:55
Many of our friends,
03:57
maybe Mr. Zain does not say this,
03:59
but many of his other friends
04:01
are talking about this,
04:03
but they forget that
04:05
during the PTI's rule,
04:07
when such memes used to come,
04:09
when a bill used to be passed,
04:11
it was brought in such a hurry,
04:13
in fact, many times,
04:15
even the counting was announced wrongly.
04:17
One time,
04:19
there was a very strange drama,
04:21
that the number announced
04:23
was not even
04:25
combined with both.
04:27
And you are saying this right, Shah sahib.
04:29
There was a factory of ordinances.
04:31
Such things used to happen.
04:33
It was circulated.
04:35
At least,
04:37
this is in the government process.
04:39
If the number is not complete,
04:41
then of course,
04:43
efforts are being made
04:45
to bring in Mr. Maulana,
04:47
Mr. Mahindra,
04:49
and somehow,
04:51
such things happen.
04:53
Let me come back to you, Shah sahib.
04:55
You have raised two or three important points.
04:57
First, Mr. Zain,
04:59
you have been continuously smiling.
05:01
You find all the government talks
05:03
to be a joke.
05:05
You are not taking anything seriously.
05:07
Some say,
05:09
no one has asked us formally.
05:11
Some say, we should develop a larger consensus.
05:13
Some say,
05:15
we don't want to be a part of the reform.
05:17
Some say, we are presenting our proposals.
05:19
Tell me, what is the PTI saying?
05:21
Anika, look,
05:23
this is not a joke.
05:25
This is a very serious situation.
05:27
You are playing with the future of the country.
05:29
This is not a joke.
05:31
What makes me laugh is that
05:33
the PPP has to decide now.
05:35
Some say, we are not a part of the government.
05:37
The president is theirs, the chairman senate is theirs,
05:39
the governance is theirs,
05:41
the government in one province is theirs,
05:43
the government in another province is theirs.
05:45
Interestingly, in this process,
05:47
the power brokers have also become the PPP.
05:49
Like Shah sahib is right,
05:51
today, the pillar to post,
05:53
Mr. Bilawal Bhutto is running.
05:55
And where there is so much opposition
05:57
for Maulana's eight votes,
05:59
Maulana has eight votes,
06:01
the PPP has about 60-70 votes.
06:03
The biggest stakeholder in this PDM alliance
06:05
is the People's Party.
06:07
If the People's Party leaves,
06:09
then they will sit for the rest of their lives.
06:11
Agreed.
06:13
Let's move on.
06:15
Telling them that we are not a part of the government
06:17
is wrong.
06:19
This is a part of the government,
06:21
this is a part of the PDM,
06:23
and this is also a part of the 26th amendment.
06:25
The interesting thing is that
06:27
Mr. Shah says that
06:29
Mr. Bilawal is going to the bar,
06:31
but if Mr. Bilawal Bhutto should go,
06:33
he should go to the Prime Minister.
06:35
If he should go, he should go to the Muslim Noon.
06:37
If he should go, he should go to the PDM government.
06:39
And he should go up and say
06:41
that we should not do this work.
06:43
We should make this campaign public.
06:45
We should onboard the stakeholders.
06:47
We should onboard the legal fraternity,
06:49
civil society, which they are not doing.
06:51
Now, for God's sake,
06:53
stop talking about the Ordinal Factory.
06:55
Why should we stop?
06:57
If we remind you of something bad,
06:59
please let me finish.
07:01
No, but what I am saying is valid.
07:03
You cannot just brush it aside
07:05
and leave the last part.
07:07
I have two minutes left.
07:09
I am not brushing aside.
07:11
Anika, you are not letting me answer your question.
07:13
I am.
07:15
You are answering the question.
07:17
Let me finish.
07:19
I have two minutes left.
07:21
Please let me finish.
07:23
You are talking about the Ordinal Factory,
07:25
which is the third party
07:27
and the SADARTI ordinance
07:29
that you are going to do this work.
07:31
Please know this.
07:33
In the 26th amendment,
07:35
you are going to change 25% of your constitution
07:37
into the fourth part.
07:39
You are going to change the whole constitution.
07:41
You are going to do this work.
07:43
It cannot be compared with any small bill.
07:45
But even that cannot be brushed aside.
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