Is Joe Mazzulla the best coach in the NBA?? Where does he rank? Better than Spoelstra?

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00:00The goal, obviously, is to do it again, Wiggy.

00:03To win a chip, and that is Joe Mizzoula, a.k.a. Clapback Joe,

00:07a.k.a. we got a target on our chest, Joe, and a.k.a. best coach in the NBA right now.

00:13Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:15Yes.

00:16Best coach in the NBA right now?

00:17Who's better?

00:18Eric Spolstra?

00:19No.

00:20To think of how young Joe Mizzoula is and what he's done with this team.

00:24What? What has he done with this team?

00:25Getting them all on the same page. Curtis, how much different are the actual players on this team

00:30than they were under Brad Stevens?

00:32Are the Celtics the most talented team in the NBA?

00:35No, I would think a lot of people would say no.

00:37No, I'm asking you.

00:38No.

00:39Who would say, they'd say Dallas is more talented?

00:41They would say Dallas. There would be teams that say Milwaukee.

00:44There would be people that say Milwaukee.

00:45There would be people that say Denver.

00:47In what way are Dallas more talented than the Celtics?

00:51There are people that would say-

00:52I'm not asking about people.

00:53Because I'm telling you, you're asking me-

00:55Right, and then you're saying there would be people.

00:58But I'm a Celtics homer.

00:59So I'm going to always say the Celtics.

01:01But I'm giving you the national narrative of why people would say Dallas.

01:06Because people think Luka Doncic is better than Jason Tatum.

01:10But Curtis, clearly you think that they're the most talented team in the NBA, correct?

01:14Absolutely.

01:14Okay, but how much different are they right now than they were under Brad Stevens,

01:18that they were under Imei?

01:20They won two more games than they did with Imei in the season.

01:24No, I'm saying the players on the team.

01:27How much different talent-wise are they now?

01:29The only difference is Boas Angus.

01:30Okay.

01:31Wiggy and I agree that the biggest difference was getting rid of Marcus Smart,

01:34which allowed Jalen and Jason to be who they are.

01:35But you're not letting me finish my question.

01:37All I'm saying, that is, if you're going to come at Joe Mazzulla,

01:39Joe Mazzulla was able to get all of these great players,

01:42this very talented team, on the same page.

01:44Other coaches haven't been able to win a championship with these same guys.

01:48Right, because Marcus Smart was on the team, precluding them from being a unit.

01:51That subtraction was an addition to the success of the organization.

01:55I think, of course, Eric Spolstra wins a championship with this team.

01:59Of course.

02:00So, Curtis, who would you say is currently, if it's not Joe Mazzulla, who is the best coach?

02:05I would probably say Spolstra.

02:06Every year he gets more out of less.

02:08But, I mean, I'm not saying that Mazzulla should be fired.

02:11I was dead wrong.

02:11He won a championship.

02:12I was wrong a thousand times.

02:14But to say he's the best coach in the NBA.

02:17He is.

02:17That's like saying the Yankees manager is always the best manager.

02:21But you don't have the best team in the NBA.

02:24But the majority of people, NBA insiders, would say that the Celtics don't have the best roster.

02:31I mean, you look at the addition of Porzingis.

02:33Yeah.

02:34Granted, he, you know, wasn't available throughout the entire regular season last year.

02:39But I, this team is, Curtis is right.

02:43They're good.

02:43At the, it's.

02:45They're not good.

02:45They're the best team in the NBA.

02:47They're the overwhelming favorite to win again.

02:49Overwhelming.

02:51They have twice, more than twice.

02:53They're plus 300.

02:54I mean, the second favorite is plus 700.

02:56And how is he supposed to be the best coach?

02:57I just said it.

02:57Because he's won more than one title.

03:02Okay.

03:02Couldn't you say he brought the big three together?

03:04Who got them on the same page?

03:06Let me ask you this question.

03:07When he won his championships, did he not have the best team in the NBA?

03:13Hands down with LeBron James, D Wade, and Chris Bosh.

03:16Exactly.

03:17And we didn't say he was the best coach.

03:19No, no.

03:20Nobody said he was.

03:21He was a punchline.

03:22The overwhelming majority of people back then when Spolster was the coach of the, of the heat

03:30during them championship runs would hands down say Miami has the best talent because they have

03:36LeBron and D Wade.

03:38The majority of people, NBA people out throughout the circuits all over the country would not say

03:47the Celtics have the best talent.

03:50But I don't know what you're talking about.

03:51They are overwhelming favorites.

03:53They're the overwhelming favorites.

03:55They have the best roster in the NBA.

03:56No, no.

03:57You asked the question.

03:58They have the best roster.

03:58And I said, the majority of people, NBA people would tell you they don't.

04:02They are more than twice as likely to be the favorite to win the championship according

04:06to the latest odds.

04:07Because they have a good roster and they have a great coach and a great place.

04:15But when it comes to starting five.

04:17Starting five.

04:18Not just your big.

04:19Yes, they have.

04:21They probably have the best starting five in the league.

04:24Greg, how many people, Greg, how many, how many people, Greg, when this, when the heat

04:30one with LeBron Bosch and D I'm asking Greg a question, Greg, how many people, when they won

04:36said, Eric Spolster is the best coach in the NBA.

04:39Not many.

04:40That would be zero because they were hands down the best talent, right?

04:44Eric Spolster got a lot of respect and adoration because he beat this Celtics team and got

04:49to an NBA final.

04:51And that is how he established himself as a very respected coach.

04:55But you don't have hands down the best talent.

04:57And Greg, to your point of your starting five, Jason Tatum.

05:02Clearly is a all NBA player, but the guy can't even get off the end of the bench in the Olympics.

05:08Oh, that's a good rubric.

05:10Jalen Brown.

05:11Jalen Brown.

05:12Drew holiday.

05:13But these are guys, but these are guys, but these are guys posing us when he was in Dallas

05:20and then throw Derek white.

05:21Right.

05:21It's a really, really, really came out of nowhere though.

05:24We can all agree, but that's what I'm saying.

05:28You're giving credit to Joe Mizzou.

05:29Yes.

05:30Yes.

05:30Okay.

05:30And that's what I'm saying.

05:31And like the whole national narrative after they won was like, they only won cause they

05:35had an easy road.

05:36So they're not putting it on the talent.

05:37And they're the overwhelming favorites to win it all.

05:40And before Porzingis got here, Porzingis was a guy that was viewed as an underachiever

05:47because he couldn't stay healthy.

05:48Cause he was in Dallas.

05:49Yeah.

05:49Part of it.

05:50He's couldn't stay healthy.

05:50That was it.

05:51It wasn't like he couldn't achieve.

05:52No, no, no.

05:52But part of it is we couldn't stay healthy, but it wouldn't, when he was in New York,

05:56he wasn't able to elevate that team.

05:58Right.

05:58So Porzingis comes here as a, as a really good basketball player.

06:03And you start to look at the starting five drew holiday.

06:05Another one great role player.

06:07When he thinks the bucks have a better roster than the Celtics.

06:12You don't think that people will view the box.

06:15Their roster is better.

06:16No, nobody.

06:17Lillard, Yonatan Takupu.

06:19Oh, speaking of can't stay healthy.

06:20Um, uh, Middleton, Brooke Lopez.

06:24Let's see what the odds are.

06:25Where are the bucks here?

06:26They are not even in the top five and odds to win the championship.

06:30They are at plus 1200, four times less likely.

06:33That's based on Vegas.

06:35Wait.

06:35Okay.

06:35Who puts money in Vegas?

06:37I don't know.

06:38What do you mean?

06:38Who puts money?

06:39People who know about the NBA.

06:41Who's the odds on favor to win the championship in the NFL?

06:45The chiefs.

06:45Do they, do they have the best roster?

06:47No, they have the best player.

06:48The most important position.

06:50They don't.

06:50So when you look at the Celtics and that's why I said the majority of NBA talking heads

06:56would tell you that the Celtics don't have the best roster.

07:00Does anybody else here think the bucks have a better roster than the Celtics?

07:03Um, no, I'm asking, I'm asking everybody else.

07:05You're asking, um, you're asking fans.

07:09You're asking homers.

07:10Okay.

07:10So who should I ask?

07:11Oh, ask NBA, ask any NBA insider.

07:14Okay.

07:14I will.

07:14Let's do that today.

07:15Oh, who's the guy that we, um, had on the phone?

07:17Um, we had a one time that called up and what else his name?

07:21Uh, no, that's a great idea.

07:23No, no.

07:24I'm trying to think on the show.

07:26No, we had the guy on who said that things about, uh, Jason Taylor, Doug Gottlieb, right?

07:34Didn't want to play for a black coach of like UW something.

07:37He's a basketball insider.

07:39We got to take a quick break.

07:41I allowed this show to get completely off schedule.

07:43It's a great conversation.

07:44I'm just giving you facts, Mike.

07:46I appreciate it.

07:47Wiggy says, Joe Mazzola, the best coach in the NBA.

07:51Find me a better one.

07:52Find them a better one.

07:53We will be.

07:53Coach Spoh got screwed in Miami.

07:55He should have been coach of the year.

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