"Mujhe Koi Shak Nahi Aglay Chief Justice Mansoor Ali Shah Hongay..." Bilawal Bhutto Breaks Big News

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00:00that on 26th October 2024, Mansoor Ali Shah will be the next Chief Justice of Pakistan?

00:04I have no doubt that the next Chief Justice will be Mansoor Ali Shah.

00:08No, Mr. Bilawal, obviously, you are giving all kinds of suggestions, Gaurav,

00:11because the bill has not come yet.

00:13What I want to ask you is that

00:15on which you and the government had an agreement.

00:18Because, obviously, we are assuming, and I think rightly so,

00:21that you and the government had an agreement.

00:25That did not happen because Maulana Sahib did not agree.

00:28So, did the two of you agree on the fact that

00:31the first Chief Justice of the new Constitutional Court will be appointed?

00:33That is why I am speaking openly.

00:35Because, everywhere, the government wants that

00:38Mr. Faiz Issa should either be given an extension

00:40or he should be appointed as the Chief Justice of the new Constitutional Court.

00:42There are a few points on this which I would like to raise.

00:46One is that the input of the Pakistan People's Party

00:50in the draft of the government

00:52was in this context

00:54that we thought that Maulana Sahib is already on board

00:57and the government is already on board.

00:59It was just a matter of time for the Pakistan People's Party to agree.

01:02In that process, yes, absolutely,

01:04we made the government agree on a few things of our own

01:07and we also agreed on a few things of the government.

01:12The draft that you had,

01:16was present in the morning of that day.

01:19On that, Maulana Fazlur Rahman Sahib had a lot of objections.

01:24The Pakistan People's Party had a few objections.

01:27But, whenever you accept a part of your manifesto,

01:35then you are ready to compromise on other points, other parties.

01:40The approach that we will take now, God willing,

01:43is that the original draft of the Pakistan People's Party

01:46will be sent to Maulana Fazlur Rahman Sahib.

01:49We are waiting for him to complete his draft

01:52so that we can bring it to a consensus document.

01:55As far as the Chief Justice's initial appointment criteria are concerned,

02:01the process of Prime Minister's approval and notification,

02:10it will have to be a one-time process

02:14as to how we will start it.

02:16Going forward, obviously,

02:18we have suggested that the Chief Justice's,

02:21or the new Chief Justice who is appointed by the Constitutional Court,

02:25or a proposal can be made

02:27that you can make a system with both Chief Justices

02:31or Chief Justice and Senior Puni Judge,

02:33whatever system you want to make.

02:35The power that the Prime Minister had,

02:38according to our original constitution,

02:41according to the 1973 constitution,

02:43before the 1996 Supreme Court Judicial Order,

02:46in the time of Maulana Benazir Bhutto,

02:48who took this power from the Prime Minister

02:51to the Supreme Court,

02:54and in the era of Chief Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry,

02:58that power went to the judges completely.

03:03So, one proposal is that it should go to the Prime Minister.

03:08But my party's opinion was that

03:10given the current political context,

03:15there can be more criticism.

03:20So we can debate on this.

03:22We can think about this.

03:24One suggestion is that

03:25you should consult with the President of Pakistan,

03:28the Chief Justice and the judges,

03:31or you should do it through the same Judicial Commission.

03:34I mean, we can talk about this.

03:36But what you are talking about

03:38and saying that this is the suggestion of the government,

03:40this is less than the suggestion of the government.

03:42According to our original constitution,

03:44this was the procedure.

03:45Sir, if I simplify this and ask,

03:47any move as a result of which

03:49a respectable judge stays in office,

03:52will not make the whole process controversial?

03:55And will you not oppose it?

03:56Because it will look like it is person-specific.

03:58Actually, I think your question is person-specific.

04:01Yes, it is actually.

04:05I totally disagree with this.

04:09I agree that there are some politicians

04:16who have a different intention.

04:19There are some other politicians

04:21who have a different intention.

04:23But the point at which the Pakistan People's Party

04:26and the JUI had a consensus on that committee

04:31was that the JUI and the PTR are not as partisan as Noondli.

04:40Therefore, perhaps we have more space to talk about

04:44a constitutional amendment or build consensus

04:47away from that controversy.

04:49I think that the constitution we make

04:52should not be person-specific.

04:55Not in terms of age,

04:57not in terms of keeping someone,

04:59and God willing, we will try our best

05:02to make that consensus.

05:05As far as Justice Faiz Issa is concerned,

05:08I think that both our current Chief Justice

05:11and the incoming Chief Justice

05:13are very respectable judicial figures.

05:16Both the judges, Justice Faiz Issa and Justice Mansoor Ali Shah,

05:20both were present in the bench

05:22for my grandfather's case.

05:25As much as I respect them,

05:28or as much as I can describe them to you,

05:31I would not like to give a perception

05:34between the two of them.

05:36I will try to keep these two people

05:39apart from each other.

05:41I will try to keep them apart from each other.

05:44And I think that it is a very sad thing

05:47that the politics of Pakistan has reached this point

05:50that we have made our Chief Justice,

05:53whether it is Justice Faiz Issa,

05:55whether it is Justice Khosa,

05:57whether it is Justice Gulzar,

05:59whether it is Saqib Nizar,

06:01whether it is Chaudhry Iftikhar,

06:03we treat them like partisan judges,

06:06rather than making a system

06:09in the whole world

06:12that is not impartial.

06:14Some because of the judiciary's own role,

06:17but some because in our politics

06:20they are not ready to accept any responsibility.

06:23They are always in the habit of blaming someone.

06:26So sir, as we speak,

06:28do you have any doubt

06:30that on 26th October 2024,

06:32Mansoor Ali Shah will be the next Chief Justice of Pakistan?

06:35I have no doubt that the next Chief Justice

06:37will be Mansoor Ali Shah.

06:39On 26th October 2024,

06:41he will take the oath of office.

06:43If you have an invitation,

06:45you will also go to the inauguration.

06:47I am neither a minister

06:49nor will I accompany my father

06:51to the inauguration,

06:53but I have no such intention.

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