Oppostion Adalat Ka Darwaaza Khtkhtaye Gi ?
Oppostion Adalat Ka Darwaaza Khtkhtaye Gi ?
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00:00You have said a very interesting thing, Mr. Zubair, that even if this bill is passed, there will be a challenge in the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court will take it up.
00:08On one hand, there is the Parliament, the elected members, now whether they are elected or not, Form 47, Form 45, that is a separate debate.
00:16But on one hand, there is the Parliament and on the other hand, there is the Supreme Court.
00:19And it is the Parliament's responsibility to legislate.
00:22If they complete the numbers legally, then they have the right to pass the bill.
00:28Now, if the bill is passed, for example, tomorrow,
00:32do you think the Supreme Court will be a part of the Parliament's work?
00:40It is the Parliament's right to pass the bill.
00:46But it is the duty of the party to collect a two-third majority.
00:51Now, until a two-third majority is formed, the bill cannot be passed.
00:55Now, a lot of things have happened.
00:57The decision made in the Supreme Court of Pakistan today,
01:00with regard to the specific seats and the monetary system,
01:04a big misunderstanding has arisen.
01:06And the other institutions have created difficulties for them in their own places.
01:11One very important thing is that just a few weeks ago,
01:15the Parliament made this decision in a joint hearing,
01:18in which they said that the Supreme Court of Pakistan
01:24has no intention of interfering in any decision of the Election Commission of Pakistan.
01:32And in light of that, the Election Commission of Pakistan stood up and said
01:36that until the decision of the intra-party election is not made,
01:40we cannot proceed with this.
01:43First, let there be an intra-party election.
01:45After that, we will see.
01:47Then these institutions also stood up in front of us.
01:49And the Supreme Court of Pakistan also wanted that
01:52the Election Commission of Pakistan has repeatedly mentioned in its request
01:56that the intra-party election of the party has not taken place
01:59under Section 208 and 209.
02:01Until this decision is not made,
02:03we have come to this decision.
02:05We have a question. Answer it.
02:07They did not mention the reason for going.
02:10Now, all these matters are happening one after the other.
02:13The mindset of the people is also changing.
02:16There is a crisis in the judiciary.
02:19There is a crisis in the Parliament.
02:21There is a crisis.
02:22There is no solution.
02:23This is the biggest problem.
02:25Mr. Zubairi, at the end of the day,
02:27if the number game is completed,
02:29then the government's burden will be heavy.
02:31But, for example,
02:32if they amend the constitution,
02:34which you said,
02:35if they amend the constitution,
02:36then it will go to the Supreme Court.
02:37Please explain this to me.
02:38If the Parliament completes the number,
02:40completes it legally,
02:42completes it with those people
02:44who are not a part of the PTI,
02:46then it is being completed in the Senate.
02:48Two members are needed there.
02:49Two people will be released from there.
02:51So, in that,
02:52the review petition that has been sent by the government,
02:54can it provide them a delaying tactic
02:56or a cushion, number one?
02:58Number two is that
02:59until the implementation is not done,
03:01can the government get a cushion or not?
03:06No.
03:07Look, the first thing is the implementation.
03:08You talk.
03:09Today, the implementation of the judgment has been done.
03:11The Supreme Court has said
03:12whether you issue a notification or not,
03:14these two are members of the PTI.
03:16So, you cannot use them
03:18to complete your number.
03:19Yes, they have some other way.
03:21By the way,
03:22two-thirds of the Senate,
03:23there are 64 or 63,
03:25as you said.
03:26So, they need 64 votes in the Senate.
03:28Okay?
03:29So, now,
03:30if they have completed their number,
03:32but what I am saying is
03:33whether they complete the number or not.
03:35This will be a challenge
03:37that how can you interfere in the judiciary
03:40and reduce its powers?
03:42No doubt,
03:43you are a member of the Supreme Court.
03:47You have the right.
03:48You can make amendments under Article 239.
03:52You cannot be challenged.
03:54But despite that,
03:55there is a challenge.
03:56And let me tell you,
03:57Justice Qazi Faiz Isa's minority note
04:00in the 21st amendment,
04:02he had set aside the 21st amendment.
04:04That judgment is present.
04:06He has reproduced my argument
04:09in his judgment.
04:10It was a minority judgment.
04:11He had set aside.
04:13He had striked down the 21st amendment
04:15when the military courts were formed.
04:16You remember.
04:17So, these judgments are also present
04:18which we will have to see.
04:19If the judicial system is being finished,
04:22then it will be a challenge.
04:23And the judiciary will have to stand on it.
04:25Yes, they will argue that you cannot do it.
04:27Then let's see what the judiciary decides.
04:29But in every way,
04:30they are trying to suppress the judiciary.
04:32And they are trying that
04:33Justice Mansoor Ali Shah should not become Chief Justice.
04:35If Justice Qazi Faiz Isa does not remain Chief Justice,
04:37then a Chief Justice of his own will should not come.
04:39So, this is an attack on the freedom of the republic.
04:42This is an attack on the constitution of Pakistan.
04:45One more question.
04:46Now, the politicians who want to amend
04:48are also raising a question.
04:50That question is this.
04:51And some legislators are also raising this question.
04:53Coming out of that ambit,
04:55what is happening after the decision,
04:58if someone goes bankrupt
04:59and there is contempt of court,
05:00then the matter is different.
05:01But to give clarification in that decision,
05:04does it have precedence?
05:06Yes, of course.
05:07Because the Supreme Court,
05:08whether it is there or not,
05:10sometimes the first judgment also comes
05:12which sets the precedent.
05:14They themselves wrote that
05:15if they do not ask for clarification,
05:16then the Supreme Court does not give clarification.
05:18Now, even after clarification,
05:19like Qamar Dilshad Sahib was saying,
05:21that they still have a doubt,
05:23that they still have their intraparty election.
05:25The chairman himself has killed them.
05:26The Supreme Court has written and given it.
05:28And they said that they are members of PTI.
05:30You issue a notification.
05:31I do not think there is any doubt.
05:34Yes, they will not do it
05:35because they have been ordered not to do it.
05:37So that tomorrow they try to pass the family arrangement.
05:40Today, Maulana Sahib should join them.
05:42Whatever they do,
05:43tonight is very crucial.
05:44But Inshallah,
05:45they also plan.
05:47The biggest planner,
05:48may Allah bless him and grant him peace,
05:50that this planning will be done.
05:51If the destruction of this country is written,
05:53that this will be done
05:54by suppressing the judiciary
05:55and by subduing themselves,
05:56then may Allah protect this country.
05:58Qamar Sahib,
05:59what are you seeing happening tomorrow?
06:00Just tell me this.
06:01I am feeling that
06:03the Parliament and the Supreme Court of Pakistan
06:05are standing face to face.
06:07Now, in the Parliament,
06:09there is an attempt to be very important.
06:11And the government is moving forward
06:13to achieve a two-third majority.
06:15And the powers of the Supreme Court of Pakistan
06:17are also decreasing.
06:19And along with this,
06:21the issue of extension is also arising.
06:23So this matter is not going well.
06:25As far as the election is concerned,
06:27the institution of Pakistan
06:29will issue its reasons.
06:31They will say,
06:33first get the intra-party elections done
06:35and then we will act
06:37on your decision.
06:39So that is also an open way
06:41that until the intra-party elections are not held,
06:43there will be no action on this.
06:45So we can see that
06:47there will be a big protest going forward.
06:49There is a crisis.
06:51And the Supreme Court of Pakistan
06:53and the Parliament are standing face to face.
06:55And this October,
06:57October 1997
07:01This is a very dangerous time.
07:05Right.
07:13But the way you have pointed out,
07:15this is a very difficult situation
07:17and a very dangerous situation
07:19for such institutions.
07:21Thank you very much.
07:23We will take a break.
07:25We will continue after the break.
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