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'Without Blood’ | Deadline Studio at TIFF 2024
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When I read the book, I hadn't read something, or maybe in a long time, but not in my memory
00:17
of something that really was just addressing that very complex gray area of human beings,
00:24
where it wasn't defining who was good, who was bad, what was absolute.
00:31
It was dealing with post-conflict, which I feel I had studied a lot of conflict in films
00:39
I directed and written, and this was an aspect of it, this after, this idea that it would
00:46
end or how it lingers with us and what it does.
00:51
It felt so true to what it is like for the many people that I know that have gone through
00:58
war.
01:01
And I liked when I read it.
01:02
I thought it was going to go one way, and I was surprised that it didn't, and I was
01:08
surprised that I was happy it didn't.
01:10
At the beginning of the book, he says this is not a place.
01:14
This is not a particular place.
01:15
He wanted it to be universal, but he did say he liked Spanish names.
01:18
He likes the sound of language.
01:21
In the choice of the actors and actors, and these extraordinary actors, even though we
01:29
weren't defining a place, we were taking a texture of a place.
01:32
We were taking a place, their homeland as a center, and the tones and the feeling would
01:39
inform a lot of the piece, and we chose to shoot in Italy, and that would also inform
01:45
where we were.
01:46
There was something about the dirt and the blood and the skin and the flesh that all
01:51
kind of felt right to this, and it felt very organic, it felt of the earth.
01:58
This feels very of the earth, this piece.
02:00
And then also the table, there was something that I don't know if anybody notices, but
02:04
as the conversation grows more difficult, it actually becomes warmer at the table.
02:11
So they sit down, it's daytime, in the light of day, death in the light of day, which happens
02:17
a few times in this.
02:18
There's a lot of hard things in the light of day.
02:21
And then as they go through the harder things, the sun sets, it gets warmer.
02:26
As it gets harder, the candles get lit.
02:31
It's a strange thing that hopefully brings you, and I think it felt that way maybe at
02:35
the table.
02:36
You kind of feel that you were kind of, the womb was closing in.
02:39
When Angelina was prepping the film, we were talking and she was telling me that she wanted
02:48
to do like a mood board.
02:52
And she started pulling things by herself.
02:57
This is a long time before the film started shooting.
03:01
When she showed me what she called mood board, it was exactly the movie that I see today.
03:07
It already looked like she had already shot a movie and she had put those pictures together.
03:15
I wish I could hire her for any presentation of any project.
03:20
It was shocking.
03:21
It was perfect.
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It was beautiful.
03:24
It was like Godfather, but in Mexico.
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Because I'm Mexican, she wanted to show me all these things.
03:34
About that, I also want to say another thing.
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The book says it's an imaginary place.
03:39
She could have picked anything, like any kind of new world, any kind of world for Damon
03:51
and I, where sometimes they've taken our world and making it wide so that they can
03:58
have, you know, bigger movie stars, you know, and things are taken away.
04:06
This woman who could have taken any choice to bring it close to create a new culture
04:10
that is inspired by our culture, it really feels like we are entering a new era.
04:20
I've never, we were so proud that she took that base as an inspiration for her film.
04:29
You know, I love sports in general and I love tennis and the only way you can have a decent
04:37
match and the only way your game can exponentially grow is if you have a phenomenal tennis player
04:46
playing alongside.
04:48
And this is without a doubt the biggest challenge that I've encountered as an actor for many
04:54
different reasons.
04:55
I will always be grateful to Angelina and Salma to have moved heaven, earth and hell
05:03
to allow me to make this film in terms of timing and the emotional essence of it.
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And to me it was, I was invited to take this huge risk and the only way you can do that
05:19
is if your director is a generous human being, not only a phenomenal artist, and that's both,
05:26
you know, Angelina is both.
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And she created this environment in which she allowed us to be free and feel safe in
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a way, feel safe to go through this emotional ride.
05:41
And the only way I was able to survive was because of Salma, because she helped me and
05:48
she had my back at all times and just the fact to have her in front of me and look at
05:54
her eyes and look at each other in our eyes and all that, the rest of it was only to remember
06:01
my lines, which I have never talked so much in any film in my life, not even in theater.
06:10
I come from the theater and it was insane and it was the beautiful thing about all this
06:18
is that our mother, she was always so calm and so relaxed and she had everything under
06:25
control and warm and had everything ready for us to just go ahead and boom, do the best
06:33
thing that we could.
06:34
She was all that and so much more, but from time to time, even though she gave us time
06:40
to explore, no, no, you will see, he's laughing already, she would come with all this elegance
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and loveliness and the smile, the guy said, guys, we're ahead of schedule, so I am going
06:58
to give you an hour to go to your rooms and learn your next three page monologues, because
07:06
I'd like to start like shooting it today, not tomorrow, since we are doing so well and
07:13
we are ahead of time, and we would go like, okay, and then, oh my God, how are we going
07:20
to do this?
07:21
There was so much complicated emotional dialogue and at one time I said, I don't think this
07:27
is possible, just give it a try, and then we did it, we would do it, I mean.
07:35
I think she trusted us more than ourselves, you know what I mean?
07:42
Now I'm better than I was, after this movie, because I didn't know I could do certain things
07:48
that...
07:49
That is the magic thing, she knew that.
07:50
That she just...
07:51
How?
07:52
No one knows.
07:53
I didn't want to eat kind of easy.
07:54
But Thelma's not telling you, and I don't know if she'll ever say it, is your first
07:57
day on set, she was so game, I always say this, you don't trust both of them, just that
08:05
you could say, I'm going to try something, we're going to just agree that we're going
08:08
to just push ourselves as people, we're going to talk about the hardest stuff, we're going
08:12
to sit in the hardest stuff, we're going to share all the stuff, and we're just going
08:15
to do something really like human together and, you know, that's the thing, right?
08:20
And this is the first day, she said, go in there, there is no script, there are no props,
08:28
and live the life of those years, explore what it was like.
08:37
I am going to have one camera here, do you mind if I have a handheld really close to
08:42
you?
08:43
And I knew one of the operators said, fine, he's fine, I'm going to ignore him.
08:47
You go and stay there.
08:52
I'm not going to cut.
08:56
This was so powerful.
08:59
I did an improvisation, I say this very proudly, of 45 minutes that I didn't realize it was
09:05
45 minutes, where so many things happened, and in this time, the first day, we got to
09:12
know my character that we created together, because this character, I feel, is not just
09:17
me.
09:18
I think this character, it's the three of us, so I know this is a really strange one.
09:24
I promise you, I really never felt it was me doing it.
09:30
It always kind of just showed up as a spirit combined of the three, and in that improvisation,
09:38
she did things that I would have never thought out, and we got to know that character that
09:46
day.
09:47
We got to meet that character that day in a deeper way than that goes beyond all the
09:53
great conversations, amazing conversations.
09:55
She was so brave.
09:56
She won't say that.
09:57
It is her.
09:58
I'm not going to taunt her for it, but she was so brave, and it was a moment for me to
10:02
really discover, and then I knew, then I realized just how amazing, and then, of course, I wanted
10:09
to, then it was fun to push and play, because I saw this extraordinary, yeah, I know this
10:17
extraordinary artist.
10:28
Yeah.
10:29
Yeah.
10:30
Yeah.
10:31
Yeah.
10:32
Yeah.
10:33
Yeah.
10:34
Yeah.
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