Off-the-record remarks by CJP Isa misreported, says SC - Fawad Chaudhry, Kashif Abbasi's Reaction

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Transcript
00:00Let's start with the latest news and then we will go to Ali Amin's episode.
00:04The latest news is that a press release has come from the Supreme Court of Pakistan.
00:08So you can safely say whether the Chief Justice's extension has been done or not.
00:12In this regard, the Chief Justice has given his first formal statement on behalf of Pakistan to his Secretary.
00:18Otherwise, you know that Azam Ali Tarar is saying that the Chief Justice has said this.
00:21The journalists are saying that he has said this.
00:23Now the Chief Justice is saying through his Secretary that I have said this.
00:27To sum up, this is a lengthy press release.
00:29That yesterday there was a speech.
00:31After that we spoke to the journalists.
00:32We spoke to the journalists off the record.
00:34But the journalists were told that it was off the record.
00:37Still, unfortunately, that conversation was made public.
00:40And it was made wrongly public.
00:41That is why we have to clarify.
00:43To sum up, yesterday the news was that the Chief Justice has said this.
00:47The journalists were saying that the Chief Justice has said that
00:49if everyone is held accountable for a long time.
00:53First of all, I have said that if there is a person-specific legislation, then I will not take it.
00:57And I have said that if everyone is held accountable for a long time, then you should increase the number of people.
01:02Still, I will not take it. I will go home.
01:04This has been quoted yesterday.
01:05Today in the press release, it has been said that yesterday's speech has been wrongly quoted.
01:09So what is the mistake?
01:10This will not be told.
01:11But it has been told what was said yesterday.
01:13It has been said that the Chief Justice has been asked whether the extension has been done or not.
01:17On which the Chief Justice has said that if it is person-specific, then I will not take it.
01:23And the story has ended in the press release.
01:25In simple words, this is the explanation of this couplet.
01:28The poet is saying here that we have not said this.
01:31Yesterday, he has said this clearly.
01:32He has said wrongly that if everyone is held accountable for a long time, then I will not take it.
01:36We have not said this at all.
01:37This has not been written in this press release.
01:38But does this mean this, Mr. Kashif, in simple Urdu?
01:41Some people were happy that perhaps the Chief Justice will refuse.
01:44The Chief Justice said that our people will not refuse.
01:48So basically, one line is saying that if the government has completed the numbers, the law has been made.
01:57And if everyone's term is extended.
01:59Then I will be here for the next three years.
02:00Then I will be here.
02:02Which simply means that the possibility of this is not only alive, but it is working.
02:07It has been happening since yesterday.
02:08There is a number game on it.
02:10There is an attempt to complete the numbers.
02:12You know that all the parliamentarians have been stopped.
02:14There were some parliamentarians' tours.
02:16He has stopped everyone.
02:18So now he is completing the numbers.
02:19I need to do a meme.
02:20For that, I need two-thirds equality.
02:22I have to complete a lot of numbers.
02:24The number cannot be completed without Maulana's arrival.
02:26Even if he comes, the number will be a little short.
02:28After him, there will be less distance.
02:29But if he comes, it will be very difficult.
02:30Look, this is such a thing.
02:31Maulana is coming.
02:33The two-thirds equality that is made of elastic is not that we will pull it and complete it.
02:37If two are left, we will complete it.
02:39It is not made of elastic.
02:41We will still have to complete the numbers.
02:44Will it be done?
02:46In today's date, do you think there is a chance of it being done or not?
02:49I think they have passed a law in the parliament.
02:53They will play a game around it.
02:55The people who have already become a part of a political party cannot go to any other party.
03:02The Sunni Ta'at Council is the Sunni Ta'at Council.
03:05And the rest of the seats will go to the PDM.
03:07It is possible.
03:09I was arguing with Mr. Goman.
03:11He said that such an idea can happen.
03:13And it makes sense.
03:15In your opinion, in today's date, will the numbers be completed?
03:17Then we will talk about whether it will be beneficial or harmful.
03:19But is there a chance of it being done or not?
03:21No, after today's press release, I think the numbers will be completed.
03:25Otherwise, why will anyone jump so much if the numbers will not be completed?
03:32And since many days, I have said that the biggest political event that is going to happen is this.
03:40And this is what is going to happen.
03:42Now, basically, it is up to Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman.
03:46If Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman has decided that he wants to vote, then it will be very close.
03:53Even now, there is a difference of only four people in the National Assembly.
03:56And there is a difference of about six people.
03:58The Senator was telling me that if Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman comes, then the Senate is okay.
04:02The Senator was telling me that.
04:05Five Senators.
04:06But if Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman comes, then the Senate becomes 59.
04:0964 to 3rd.
04:10Now, this is definitely a technical point.
04:13I don't know how the Supreme Court will take that up.
04:16Look, there is no Senator from the KP.
04:20Technically, the Senate is not complete.
04:22It is not complete.
04:23First of all, the Parliament is already in Form 47.
04:27And after that, this Parliament wants to amend the constitution without Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.
04:35But, it is okay.
04:37These are moral things that we are saying.
04:40Morality, law, constitution, etc.
04:42In Pakistan, whoever talks, people say that he is a fool.
04:45So, all these things…
04:46In this way, corruption is also included.
04:48Yes, all those things.
04:49If the constitution is not legal, then corruption is a matter of later.
04:52So, you are saying that only when the preparation is complete, all these things will happen.
04:55Confidently.
04:56As you can see, all the tickers of the Prime Minister's house,
04:59when you see the coverage,
05:00when you meet so and so MLA,
05:01Yes, yes.
05:02Then, when Mr. Faiz Izzat recounted and got people added to the Parliament,
05:07from the bench,
05:08from that to now,
05:09all the things are basically…
05:12You are saying a lot of wrong things.
05:13That is how it started.
05:14It is necessary for the institution to happen.
05:17No, this is the whole sequence that is going on.
05:19Now, to talk about this possibility,
05:20my next topic is,
05:21there are two possibilities,
05:22either it will happen or not.
05:23If it does not happen,
05:24then we are standing at the same place where we are standing today.
05:26If the government somehow succeeds in doing this,
05:29which means that Mr. Faiz Izzat also lives here,
05:32which means that whenever the next Chief Justice is to be selected by the government,
05:36then it will be possible to select from a panel.
05:38If someone has to be removed,
05:40then it will be easy to remove him.
05:41No, the most important thing is the rotation in the High Courts.
05:43Rotation will be possible.
05:44High Courts, basically.
05:45Then, this High Courts Police FI will happen.
05:48Sure.
05:49Because when you have the judges,
05:50the judge who is not listening to you,
05:52you pick him up and send him to Balochistan,
05:54send him to the Shariah Court,
05:55send him here, send him there.
05:56Basically,
05:57if the government succeeds in doing this,
05:58then the government,
05:59I am not talking about ethics legally,
06:01if the government does this,
06:02then things will be easy for them.
06:04First of all, when you talk about the government,
06:05then the ethics will be over anyway.
06:07Okay, I did not need to say this.
06:08This is an additional word.
06:10Because, see,
06:11whatever they have decided so far,
06:13they have done it.
06:14For example,
06:15you see,
06:16the elections will not be held in 90 days,
06:17the elections will not be held in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.
06:19They said that
06:20we have changed the result of the entire election
06:23to 8th February, 9th February.
06:25They changed it.
06:26After that,
06:27they did this,
06:28all the things that happened in between,
06:30increasing the number of judges,
06:31doing this,
06:32doing that.
06:33For the government,
06:34the principle of their aim will be relatively easy
06:36if the government can do it.
06:37No,
06:38so far,
06:39whatever the government has said,
06:40they have done it.
06:41Okay.
06:42Whatever wishes they have expressed,
06:44put Imran Khan in jail,
06:47then do your PTI,
06:49change the election.
06:50They have done everything.
06:52Okay.

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