‘Demonstrably false Anderson Cooper directly rebukes Trump’s comments about him

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00:00We begin tonight with the former president, campaign politics, his legal troubles, and

00:04lies.

00:05He finished his day in Charlotte, North Carolina, where the Fraternal Order of Police endorsed

00:09him and he had this to say about a violent attack on Nancy Pelosi's husband.

00:15You know that?

00:16Nancy Pelosi has a big wall wrapped around her house.

00:19Of course, it didn't help too much with the problem she had, did it?

00:26That's the former president speaking to members of law enforcement, making light, the first

00:30time I should point out, of the violent attack against Paul Pelosi.

00:33A home invader beat Mr. Pelosi with a sledgehammer and fractured his skull.

00:37The man admitted that he was planning to hold Nancy Pelosi hostage and, quote, break her

00:41kneecaps and, quote, if she did not confess to whatever he wanted to hear.

00:46Now that's what the former president was talking about, two police, the near killing of a political

00:50rival's husband.

00:52Donald Trump came close to being shot in the head and had a near-death experience and got

00:56a second lease on life and this is what he's doing with it.

01:00Earlier today, he was in New York in federal court appealing his sexual abuse and defamation

01:03judgment and afterwards he talked about it.

01:06Take a look.

01:07His lawyers were behind him as he talked about E. Jean Carroll, whom a jury determined he

01:11sexually abused and defamed.

01:13He said, and I quote, I never met the woman other than this picture, which could have

01:17been AI generated.

01:18I don't, I don't know, show up out of nowhere, but it's fine.

01:22Nice picture.

01:23Now keeping him honest, the photo that he was talking about, this photo is real and

01:26the president knows it's real because he discussed it in detail under oath during a 2022 deposition,

01:32mistaking Carroll for his wife at the time, Marla Maples.

01:36Now in addition to Carroll, he also lashed out at several other accusers, including Jessica

01:40Leeds, who says Trump groped her on a flight in the 1970s.

01:44It couldn't have happened.

01:45It didn't happen and she would not have been the chosen one.

01:47She would not have been the chosen one, he said.

01:50Remarks like that have earned this assessment today from former Republican Congresswoman

01:54Liz Cheney.

01:57Dick Cheney will be voting for Kamala Harris.

02:00You know, my dad believes, and he's said publicly that, um, there's never been an individual

02:06in our country who is as grave a threat to our democracy as Donald Trump is.

02:11That was Liz Cheney today.

02:13Yesterday she announced she'll be voting for Vice President Harris.

02:16Today she said that her dad, former Vice President Dick Cheney, will be doing the same and will

02:20have more on that shortly.

02:22There was one other thing that Donald Trump said today that I want to point out because

02:25it kind of involves me and he seemed to imply something that is unfounded.

02:30He was talking, as he has before, about an interview that E. Jean Carroll did with me

02:34back on June 24th, 2019.

02:39Then there was an Anderson Cooper interview where she said essentially, no, he didn't

02:45rape me.

02:48She was selling her book.

02:49She wrote a book.

02:51The book would have been a total failure, probably was, anyway, although probably sold

02:55more recently.

02:56Again, it is a woman that wasn't doing well until she came out with this stuff about me.

03:01And that's happened to others too, by the way.

03:04She's not the only one.

03:06But they have the Anderson Cooper tape.

03:10And in the Anderson Cooper tape, it's an interview of her.

03:15And Cooper says something to the effect, did he rape you?

03:17Did he rape you?

03:18Did he slap you?

03:19Oh, did he rape you?

03:21And she gave a very good answer for me, but a bad answer for CNN, for Anderson.

03:28And he said, we're going to commercial break right now.

03:31Then she came back from commercial break and she was much more hostile.

03:35But this man wouldn't let us use the tape or the proper questions having to do with

03:40the tape.

03:41Wouldn't let us.

03:42The judge, Judge Kaplan, wouldn't let it be used.

03:46We wanted to get the outtakes.

03:47In other words, what did Anderson Cooper talk to her about during that intermission for

03:52a commercial that he called for immediately?

03:55Why do you see this?

03:56I mean, some of you have seen it.

03:57Some of you haven't.

03:58We're going to commercial break right now.

04:02And so what happened is we weren't able to use it.

04:07Okay, so this is not the first time that Trump has seemed to suggest some nefarious plot

04:12by me to manipulate E. Jean Carroll into saying something.

04:15He actually brought this up in a deposition for trial.

04:18Now I normally don't respond to when Trump says something about me.

04:22I mean, what is the point?

04:23He recently referred to me using a female first name, which I guess is like a third

04:26grade gay taunt.

04:27I think he called me Allison or Ashley Cooper.

04:29I don't really recall.

04:30It's not worth replying to.

04:32But this time it's kind of different because it's just kind of just demonstrably false.

04:36First, I just want to show you what it is he's rambling about.

04:39This was part of my interview with E. Jean Carroll that took place on my show on CNN in

04:44two blocks, two segments separated by a commercial break.

04:48Now, this is what you would have seen if that night you were watching at home or wherever

04:52and we went to commercial and then came back from commercial.

04:54We're not going to actually play the entire commercial break you would have been watching.

04:58Take a look.

05:01I was not thrown on the ground and ravished, which the word rape carries so many sexual

05:06connotations.

05:07This was not, this was not sexual.

05:11It just, it hurt.

05:12It just, it just, you know.

05:14I think most people think of rape as a, I mean, it is a violent assault.

05:19It is not.

05:20I think most people think of rape as being sexy.

05:23Let's take a short break.

05:24Think of the fantasies.

05:25We're going to take a quick break.

05:29If you can stick around, we'll talk more on the other side.

05:31You're fascinating to talk to.

05:41Cancer is the ugliest disease mankind has ever faced.

05:48We're now in my conversation with E. Jean Carroll and the president's latest denial

05:51of her sexual violence allegations against him.

05:53He said, quote, she's not my type.

05:56He's also said previously he did not know her, had never met her, even though they had

06:00in fact met.

06:01She's the one on the left along with her husband, a local news anchor at the time and the president's

06:04wife at the time, Ivana.

06:07The president has also said, said flat out that she is lying.

06:11Okay.

06:12So that commercial break, which we only just played a snippet of the commercial, ran four

06:17minutes long.

06:18So the former president seems to be suggesting that something we discussed or that I discussed

06:24with E. Jean Carroll during a four minute long commercial break that you would have

06:27been watching at home made Ms. Carroll change her tone toward him.

06:31I'm not sure her tone actually changed after the, in the second block of the interview,

06:34but that's besides the point.

06:36The problem with this conspiracy theory is that this interview was actually prerecorded

06:41and we had to prerecord a toss to a commercial break and then welcome viewers back after

06:47a commercial break so that the entire two parts of the interview would fit into my show

06:51that night.

06:52So when you do that, when you interview someone for however many minutes and then you toss

06:56to a break that'll later be inserted into the broadcast, you don't sit there for the

07:01entire four minutes of the commercial break with the guests just waiting to then come

07:05back to the show.

07:07Because it's prerecorded, you don't have to sit there during commercial break.

07:10Just take a few seconds.

07:11You make sure the control room is still recording.

07:14You welcome viewers back as if you've just come out of a commercial break and you continue

07:17with the interview.

07:18And that's exactly what I do with E. Jean Carroll.

07:20And I know this because we have the tape.

07:23So while Trump is apparently suggesting I sat through a commercial break on live TV

07:27with E. Jean Carroll telling her to be angry or whatever, we actually just paused in a

07:31prerecorded interview for a few seconds.

07:34And if you don't believe me, here's the raw, unedited video of what was actually being

07:40recorded and you will hear exactly what I said in the few seconds it took me to resume

07:44the interview.

07:45We're going to take a quick break.

07:49If you can stick around, we'll talk more on the other side.

07:52You're fascinating to talk to.

07:54All right.

07:56So we good?

07:57Coming back?

07:58Yep.

07:59Right back up.

08:00Stand by.

08:01Okay.

08:02So before the break, you said you don't use the word rape.

08:11So that was the entire break.

08:13So when Donald Trump was saying it was a four minute break that I'm talking to E. Jean Carroll,

08:18you just saw the break.

08:20And that weird look I have is how I could talk to my control room.

08:22And when I'm saying, okay, we good?

08:24We coming back?

08:25Okay.

08:26I'm talking to a producer in the control room who's talking to me in my earpiece right here,

08:30making sure that we're good on time.

08:32We're still recording and I can immediately resume the interview.

08:35That's what happened in this break in the interview that Trump was once again talking

08:39about today.

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