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Ukraine offensive against Russia continues as thousands evacuate Kursk region BBC News
Jam Asad
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8/17/2024
Russian officials said they have opened 400 temporary shelters across the country after Ukraine's cross-border offensive.
Ukraine's military said it now controls 1000 sq km of Russian territory, a week into its incursion into the border region of Kursk.
Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky has said the war "is coming home" to Russia.
But Russia’s President Vladimir Putin has accused Ukraine of "committing crimes" and said Kyiv would receive what he called a "worthy response”.
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Ukraine and Russia have been attacking each other overnight, a week into Ukraine's incursion
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into the Russian border region of Kursk.
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The defence ministry in Moscow says its air defence units have destroyed 12 drones over
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Kursk and one each over Belgorod and Voroshniy.
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Ukraine's military says it shot down 30 Russian drones and two missiles.
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Russian war bloggers report continuing battles in Kursk as well.
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They say Kiev's forces are trying to expand their control but are being met by reinforcements
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sent by the Kremlin.
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Thousands of people have been evacuated from Russian towns and cities as the Ukrainian
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troops advance.
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Ukrainian troops, highlighted here in yellow, are reportedly as deep as 32 kilometres inside
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Russia.
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Ukraine's plan seems to be to draw Russian forces away from the front line in Ukraine,
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shown here in red, where Moscow has been making slow but steady gains.
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Let's speak now to Dr Patrick Burry, former infantry captain in the British Army, former
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NATO analyst and a defence expert at the University of Bath.
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Always good to have you with us here on the BBC.
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We've just had a statement coming out of Ukraine saying they're not interested in keeping this
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territory in the Kursk region.
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So I wonder what their intention is, what's going to happen now?
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Yeah, that is really interesting because we kind of got a reading from some top Ukrainian
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officials about the operational objectives and they were, as you mentioned there in your
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to draw forces away from the front line in Donetsk, where the Ukrainians are under real
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pressure.
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We've had some reports of that, but it's unclear whether that's been successful.
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The second one is obviously to deliver a morale boost to the Ukrainian armed forces, especially
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the army, who've been under a lot of pressure for the last year, and the nation.
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I think we can say we've done that already, in the short term at least.
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And the final one was to bring the war to Russia, basically to show that the war can
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be brought to Russian territory and then destabilize as a result of that, the Kremlin.
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I think that's been done to a degree, again, in the short term.
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But the longer term strategic objective looked like, were they going to try to hold some
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ground here in case they're forced to negotiations, especially under a potential Trump president?
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And an operation like this would have taken months to prepare.
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It's not the kind of thing you do off the back of a cuff, and especially the way it's
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been executed, it's been executed very well.
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If you rewind a few months, that Trump presidency was more likely than potentially it is now.
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It looks like a high stakes move and a high risk.
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So I'm kind of surprised at this, where they're actually coming out and saying, well, we're
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not going to take any territory.
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I thought a more likely outcome might be that they've tried to take at least some, but further
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back into the pocket, the salient that they've created.
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And whether or not they will continue attacking as well, whether they're just going to stick
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with what they've got so far or keep pushing on.
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Yeah, the early days of these exploitations and breakthroughs essentially are where you
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get the most momentum, you have the initiative, there's chaos in the enemy and they're trying
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to react. As it goes on, you run into more problems in terms of your own sustainment.
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How do you how do you sustain this over the long run?
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The command and control and also the risk then of kind of getting overexposed and being
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cut off, especially if you're racing down roads towards towns, et cetera.
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So over time, I would have expected, I think a good few of us looking at this closely would
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have expected that the Russian sort of overmatching forces in the area over time as
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they can mobilise them and get them there would stabilise, first of all, the line and
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then start to attrict the Ukrainian forces and then potentially reduce the pocket.
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But that will take time, I think.
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I think it's the most likely course of action at the moment.
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But if the Ukrainians at this point that you raised there about them saying they don't
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want to cover territory to go in like this with this amount of elite forces, you know,
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well-kitted out Ukrainian brigades and then try to withdraw in contact is pretty
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difficult from a military perspective.
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But, you know, this is one of the most difficult things to do is withdraw in contact.
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So if that is what their aims are, it's just like a big raid and they're going to pull
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back. It would make sense because they want to preserve their forces and they've had the
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political shock of doing it.
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It's a bloody difficult thing to do.
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We have that coming into us, Patrick, on just one news agency, on AFP, quoting a
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Ukrainian ministry and another line that they have just fed through as well.
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The sooner that Russia agrees a just peace, the sooner these incursion raids will stop,
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which gives us this motivation for why they have done it, obviously.
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But we're now also seeing President Putin come out yesterday saying there's a major
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provocation report saying he's absolutely furious about this.
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You have to wonder what the Russian response will be now, what the potential is of what
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he could do there.
04:53
Well, I think the one thing is expected is that the Russians may bombard Ukrainian
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civilian infrastructure to increase the cost of this to them.
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Yeah, I think that would be expected.
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And I think the second thing that is, of course, is moving forces to deal with this.
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They've already combined the FSB, which is the internal security, with the military to
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get better command and control and brought in a raft of restrictions in the area to
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basically lock it down and have better command and control of that.
05:19
I would have to see what about this new statement.
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You know, maybe it's also might be trying to muddy the waters and catch the, you know,
05:24
Putin came out yesterday and said they're clearly trying to take territory for
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negotiations. Maybe it's a response to that.
05:30
We'll have to see. Maybe the Ukrainians just want to muddy the waters and make it
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more difficult to ascertain the real goals here.
05:36
One thing, one of the takeaways is this, is that Ukraine has proved in areas away from
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the front line where Russia has persistent intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance,
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so basically drones, oversight, it's very difficult to do anything without being
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spotted. In areas away from that, they've been able to mass concentrate their forces
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and break through fairly easily.
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And they could do that again.
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It's not saying that they have an inexhaustible bunch of forces here, but they
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certainly have proven the ability to pick somewhere and break through.
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And that will be in the back of the Kremlin's minds in the future, because it
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basically means you're going to have to harden the defences across that border if
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you really want to stop this happening again.
06:16
Patrick, very good to get your thoughts.
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And as soon as we have more from Kyiv, we will certainly bring it to you and continue
06:21
updating you on that story.
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