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Why are Pats missing on big name players?
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8/7/2024
Why are the Patriots missing out on the big time Free Agents and trade acquisitions? They lost out on Ridley, and now potentially Aiyuk. Wiggy: "It's about the money." Thoughts?
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If you were an aspiring tight end, already established yourself,
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would you ever want to come to a team with no offensive line,
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an inexperienced quarterback, and a team, more importantly,
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that's averaged a total of 13 points a game over the last four years?
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Come on, why does anyone want to come here as a receiver? Nobody does.
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It is not about the money, it's about you cannot
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further your career in New England right now as it stands.
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It's clearly about the money, so he's going to further his career in Cleveland?
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Well, he must think he has a better opportunity to do it there or Pittsburgh.
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He won't go to Cleveland either.
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Okay, so where's he going?
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Right in San Francisco. He'll stay right in San Francisco where he has a chance
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to continue to be a star. What I'm trying to say is we can't get Calvin Ridley
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we can't get T. Higgins, we'll never get C.D. Lamb unless Tom Brady...
01:01
No, I'm kidding about that.
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What I'm saying is who wants to come here?
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It is not an opportunity to continue to be a star. That's what I'm trying to say.
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So why isn't he in San Francisco?
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But Belichick...
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People say he's not going here, he's not going there, he'll stay in San Francisco.
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Why isn't there a deal done in San Francisco?
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Well, I mean, I'm assuming from his perspective, maybe it's a hold up.
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He wants to force them to give more money now.
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So then it's about the money, right?
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Yeah.
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It's always about money.
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It's about the money. Can we stop with the nonsense?
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Right, but the argument that you can just offer him more here and he will take it
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forces you to consider the other things that are around it.
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Right.
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And it might not be the potential to win.
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It might just be that it's not, I don't know, maybe Derek's right.
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Maybe it's not an attractive place.
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You know, you have to live in Foxborough.
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You can't live in the city.
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You have to...
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A lot of players live in the city.
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Right.
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Some, but most guys end up...
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Yeah, I mean...
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What's the difference?
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Cam Newton did.
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Right.
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The younger guys tend to.
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Julian Adelman.
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Brady did when he was young.
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I had Rolls-Royce.
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Nelson Aguilera.
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In my building.
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Yeah, he dropped it though.
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Jules, Gronk.
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So all of a sudden Cleveland and Pittsburgh is a great place.
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I could see if you go in Miami or Cali, but we stop with that.
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Like no one wants to come here.
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I don't see many people running to Cleveland and Pittsburgh.
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It's about the money.
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And how many people where you work, thank you, Derek, do anything but take the most money?
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I mean, in every field, 90% of all decisions are made based on what is best financially
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for the person.
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So why do we think athletes are any different?
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Right.
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Because if it wasn't about the money, he would have took the San Francisco deal if there
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was the deal out there.
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Right.
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Especially NFL wide receivers who are notorious for being the biggest divas in sports.
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They only care about the money and the fame.
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Those are the two top things on their list.
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Yeah.
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And so I don't get when people say, I think that it's, I think what his camp is trying
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to do, whether it's Cleveland, Pittsburgh or New England is push them up to the highest
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bid and to whoever the highest bidder is, that's where he's going.
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As long as the package is good enough for San Francisco.
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I guess Pittsburgh's not offering a good enough package.
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And so that's why San Francisco is like, nah, we'd rather deal with Cleveland and New
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England, but that's where he'll end up.
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And if he doesn't end up here, it is part of the millionaire's tax, which means you
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got to go above and beyond.
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And I think what I think it was Tom Pellicero, I don't know, maybe Mike Reese, but the reporting
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on this last night was that he wants to go.
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Brandon Ayuk wants to be in Pittsburgh for whatever reason.
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And they've been bringing up the Browns and the Patriots as a means to get the Steelers
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to give more because they clearly didn't have the same trade package that the Patriots
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had.
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That's what I believe is at the bottom of all of this.
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And the money is going to be relatively equal.
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But it's not really saying that Brandon Ayuk doesn't want to come here.
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It's saying that the Patriots fell off of the deal.
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So like, it seems like it was on the Patriots side, not on San Francisco side.
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No, I think the Patriots realized that the deal had been agreed to with the 49ers, but
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the player wasn't going to sign here.
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So they weren't going to just keep doing this roundabout, if that makes sense.
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That they were just being used by Ayuk to try and get more money or more things out
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of the Steelers, because he's not going to sign here anyway.
04:43
This is Charlie from Boston.
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Hey, Charlie.
04:47
Hey, great call.
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Sorry, not great call.
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It's going to be a great call, but great show this morning.
04:53
God, it's early.
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Simon, early.
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But yeah, so it's a combination of the money and the situation.
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It's like, it's one of those things where like no amount of money will get me to the
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pass because the situation is terrible.
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It's going to kill my career.
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This is where I come to die.
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No money's worth that.
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Wait a minute.
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This franchise, this legendary franchise has become where you go to die?
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Right now, because he's not young, is he?
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Yeah, he's only 25.
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Yeah, but I mean, it's peak value right now from somewhere else where he can actually
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play well.
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If he comes here and stinks, it's toast.
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Yeah, but it's peak value for him to make the most money.
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So this is his best opportunity to make money because after he hits 30 years old, they're
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not going to pay him this kind of money.
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Right.
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So for the next five years, because he'll probably sign a four-year deal is when he's
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really going to maximize his potential, his potential earning.
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So you're going to go to that.
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And what does Pittsburgh have to offer?
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You have a bit.
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When you say your quarterback potential is better here than it is in Pittsburgh.
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I mean, potential.
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Russell Wilson.
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I know we can't stick.
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We can't stand him.
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But I mean, he's been in the league for no, but I'm saying your potential amount of time.
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Greg, you saw him in Denver.
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He's terrible.
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He lost to Bailey Zappi.
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He's so bad.
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I know he didn't start Denver.
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Steady is penciled in as the starter.
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Yeah, it's OK.
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Bone X will start on week one of the regular season.
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It's fine.
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That's going to be a friggin train wreck over there.
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Greg, all I'm saying is potential.
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Like where like if you look projection wise on where the quarterback for the Patriots,
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Drake may will be versus the quarterbacks of Russell Wilson and Justin Fields in the
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next three to four years, I would think projection wise, people would say New England has the
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better of the quarterback.
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So I don't like I can see if it was Kansas City or if it was the charges or if it was
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Cincinnati where you were like or was even Buffalo and you go, OK, well, it's Josh Allen
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or even Baltimore.
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But Pittsburgh and Cleveland, I'm not buying that.
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He doesn't want to come to destination issue.
07:14
Yeah, I'm not buying that.
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