"PTI Ko JUIF Ki Zarorat Nahi...", Shandana Gilzar's Big Statement

2 months ago

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00:00But tell me, when it comes to the grand alliance, how hopeful are you, Maulana Factor, that Maulana sir will join you in street power?

00:08Asad Chaisal sir has come, send him to eat halwa, that's different, I'm not saying that.

00:11You can press-confirm it.

00:12On the streets?

00:13No, I'll be honest with you.

00:15Yes, please.

00:16I'll be very direct.

00:17PTI doesn't need JOIF.

00:19We don't need anyone.

00:20Right now, the whole of Pakistan is standing with us.

00:22I'll tell you about my circle.

00:24In my circle, most of the Jama'ats were Islamic, followed by ANP, followed by PTI, followed by so many Jama'ats.

00:29In this election, we have got the votes of all the parties.

00:32Because they were so tense in the last two years.

00:34I'll tell you, the petrol and gas prices that will be raised right now, along with electricity, in August and September, the shouts of people will come out.

00:41PTI doesn't need it.

00:42But one thing is there, you need a bandra to hold a Jalsa.

00:44But after that month.

00:45Then you need more arrangements, organizational advice, that this will be a strong point of JOIF.

00:50Their Madrasa crowd can also come, so we need to resist a little.

00:52So this is how you need it, sometimes to heat up a road.

00:54Yes, this is very...

00:55No.

00:56Okay, you don't need it.

00:58Okay.

01:03I can assure you of that.

01:10You seem to kind of disagree with it.

01:28Patience, patience, peace, peace.

01:29Our question is to us.

01:31Okay, Sindhana, I hope your assessment is correct.

01:34Because, in my opinion, the problem has always been PTI's party structure.

01:38Even when the situation was better, you didn't have a party structure.

01:41But Khansaab's personality was so strong, everything was going on.

01:45Then the secret structure was broken after May 9th.

01:48Even now, your party has a lot of factional infighting.

01:51You are also considered a group.

01:54Gauhar Ayub and Umar Ayub are also considered a group.

01:57Even Khansaab has said that he will call both the groups and attack them.

02:01I don't expect you to comment on it.

02:03I don't want you to comment on it, because you are a part of the party.

02:05But we all know that the grouping is everything.

02:07Secondly, you said in the beginning, when I spoke to you,

02:11you said that in Punjab, we are not allowed to breathe,

02:14we are not allowed to live, there is so much corruption.

02:16You want to put a lot of weight on the party structure

02:20without your voter pay.

02:22He came and voted on 8th February.

02:24He quietly came and voted.

02:26But you expect him to go on the streets and get beaten up on his own and on her own

02:30and stay inside for 6-7 months.

02:32That party structure is not there.

02:34If it was possible, would Imran Khan have been inside for a year?

02:37If it was possible, would there have been a drama case every other day?

02:40Would there have been fights and still your men would have been inside?

02:42I don't think so.

02:43I think the other side has been convinced that you talk and you don't have street power.

02:49But you don't see a revolution on the shoulders of the tenants.

02:52If you want to walk on the shoulders of the JUI, you don't see a revolution.

02:55So I think you have to realistically assess what you want.

02:58And I agree with people that until you meet all the political forces

03:02and at least agree on some base points, on a democratic agenda,

03:06it is very difficult to sit on your own.

03:09What have you been doing for the past year?

03:13Mr. Malik, I agree with you to an extent.

03:15That is one way of looking at things.

03:18If we keep looking for examples from the past,

03:21how there was misunderstanding, how there was disagreement,

03:23how it happened in other countries, how it happened in Pakistan,

03:25how it happened in other parties,

03:26I am afraid that Pakistan will not have a good future.

03:28Nobody is saying it is a compromise.

03:29I am not saying it is a compromise.

03:30I am saying it is a matter of clarity.

03:31I am not saying it is a compromise.

03:32If you say that we have talked about it, but you appoint Mahmood Ajagzai,

03:37then it becomes non-serious.

03:39Those who know the ground reality say that this is not a serious matter.

03:43If you don't fix the mystery, how will the rest be fixed?

03:47You are talking about de facto and de jure.

03:50There should have been a government of de facto and de jure,

03:53but both the de facto and de jure,

03:55the pirates of 9th February have come.

03:57So, which truth are we looking at?

03:59Truth A or Truth B?

04:00These are just exhibits.

04:01I am telling you something else.

04:03I am telling you that the winds have changed.

04:05But right now, the people and Khan,

04:07everyone is watching with a bated breath.

04:09Where are the pro-Pakistani forces going right now?

04:11Because remember, they don't say in English,

04:13everything is in the air right now.

04:16And if the other side had decided that they don't have street power,

04:20I can assure you,

04:22the 20-30 MNAs that we sit in the assembly every day,

04:24we sit through the roster to protest,

04:26if it wasn't so strict that we would have called 100 policemen,

04:2850 rangers, they would have lost their lives.

04:30If Imran Khan's picture would have been published in the Supreme Court,

04:32they would have lost their hands and feet.

04:34Khan's monologue on audio with the Supreme Court,

04:36that would have been released, people would have lost their lives.

04:38I can assure you, these are double gains, triple gains,

04:40but it doesn't matter.

04:42Right now, our focus is only on Pakistan.

04:45I would like to ask Mr. Bhali a question.

04:47Mr. Bhali, you have been saying for the past few days

04:49that there is no street power.

04:51So, let me paint a scenario.

04:53Let's say, we are waiting for a call from Imran Khan.

04:55Tomorrow morning, Imran Khan will say,

04:57leave Punjab, you have to go to KPK.

04:59There should be a protest every third day.

05:01So, there won't be a big protest in KPK.

05:03Of course, there will be a protest in KPK.

05:05There will be a protest in KPK.

05:07There will be a protest in KPK.

05:09There will be a protest in KPK.

05:11There will be a protest in KPK.

05:14Right now, he is feeling everything.

05:16He has done this, he has done that.

05:18Electricity will be expensive.

05:20People's anger is natural.

05:22Have you capitalized on that?

05:24The Jamaat-e-Islami has capitalized on that.

05:26The Jamaat-e-Islami has put the money forward.

05:28I am just saying that,

05:30when you see a proactive plan,

05:32frankly, I don't like it.

05:34Let me conclude this debate.

05:36A few weeks ago, our Prime Minister was saying,

05:38when Imran Khan was being very aggressive,

05:40he was saying that,

05:42maybe he will fall,

05:44and this will be an opportunity for me.

05:46What has happened today,

05:48that Imran Khan is requesting the army.

05:50Why hasn't he come today?

05:52Why doesn't he think that,

05:54he will fall?

05:56I think that,

05:58Khalsa's conviction is still the same.

06:00People say that,

06:02you don't talk,

06:04you don't do this.

06:06If I talk with so many conditions,

06:08who will do it?

06:11What were the first three conditions?

06:13Return the mandate.

06:15Leave the Mandate.

06:17You have to get it through negotiations.

06:19You have put those conditions.

06:21On May 9th, you said the same thing.

06:23You said that, I didn't put any allegations,

06:25I just criticized.

06:27No, you have put allegations.

06:29You have even put allegations of murder.

06:31Own up.

06:33You have put allegations,

06:35but I need to move forward.

06:37In black and white,

06:40you don't talk in press conferences.

06:42You talk behind the scenes.

06:44If he has to come out of jail,

06:46and give offers,

06:48and he is sending you to talk to the army,

06:50then this can't be a non-serious starter.

06:52Towards the end,

06:54what is your analysis?

06:56What should be done?

06:58Negotiation is not happening.

07:00Negotiation is happening or not?

07:02He is very clear that it is not happening.

07:04Is it happening in your country?

07:06No, I don't know.

07:08I am talking from a different perspective.

07:10I am not disagreeing with anything.

07:12I am talking about polarisation.

07:14If polarisation was so severe,

07:16and the situation was so bad,

07:18and our street power is so low,

07:20then why does he remove his permission

07:22after giving DC's permission in Islamabad?

07:24Not once, but five times.

07:26Why are you afraid that 100-200 people will come out?

07:28What is the need to spoil our permission,

07:30to remove our containers?

07:32Why are you waiting for DC's permission?

07:34Why are you waiting?

07:37Where in the world has there been

07:39a protest in Pakistan against DC's permission?

07:41Does Murana Fazl-ur-Rehman come with DC's permission?

07:43Does People's Party come with DC's permission?

07:45Does JUI come with DC's permission?

07:47Seriously, people don't take these things seriously.

07:49People say,

07:51these are just excuses.

07:53No, Malik sahib, I disagree.

07:55I disagree to the extent that

07:57when the first Jalsa took place in Peshawar,

07:59it was in my house.

08:01I was blind.

08:03I didn't get bail in Islamabad.

08:06I didn't take permission from anyone.

08:08But when Khan sahib is asking for permission,

08:10how can I say, no sir, I didn't listen to you,

08:12you have to do it yourself.

08:14What is in his mind, I have no idea.

08:16But if a person is in jail,

08:18and if he is saying something wrong,

08:20it is not incumbent upon us to disagree with him.

08:22In the last 30 seconds,

08:24do you see any change in the scene

08:26or do you find it difficult?

08:28You will find out in 10-2 weeks.

"PTI Ko JUIF Ki Zarorat Nahi...", Shandana Gilzar's Big Statement

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