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Experts call for reversal of overprescription ‘epidemic’
ABC NEWS (Australia)
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8/1/2024
An Australian doctor has published a landmark step by step guide on how to get off antidepressants safely. It followed his own experience of using the medication for 15 years ending in severe withdrawal symptoms when he came off it.
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So, I was on an antidepressant, a common one in Australia, called escitalopram or Lexapro
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for about 15 years, and I tried to come off it several years ago.
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I came off it much slower than guidelines recommend, over a few months, down to quite
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small doses, what I thought at the time, and I got into a lot of trouble.
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I started waking up in full-blown terror, like I was being chased by a wild animal.
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I'd had hours and hours a day of that, of sort of a long-standing panic attack.
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I had trouble sleeping, things around me appeared strange, and I was dizzy.
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That went on for week after week after week, and after a couple of months of that, I thought,
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I can't continue living like this.
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And the issue was, it was nothing like the issues that had put me on the drug in the
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first place.
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I'd gone on as a miserable 21-year-old with a variety of existential concerns.
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When I came off it, this was nothing like that.
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It was of an intensity I'd never experienced.
01:00
And so what had your doctor advised you about coming off them?
01:03
So the guidelines at the time were the same as they are today in Australia.
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They recommend coming off by halving your dose for a couple of weeks, halving it again
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for a couple of weeks, and then stopping.
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So the recommendations at the moment are stop over about four weeks.
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But from your experience, that just didn't work.
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So when did you decide, I've got to look into this and help other people through this?
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So at first I thought, look, I'm a very unlucky bloke.
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I've had a very bad time.
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But when I looked around, I saw there were hundreds and then eventually thousands and
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tens of thousands of people with similar issues online, all with the same story.
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The advice given by my doctor led to a lot of side effects, withdrawal effects from coming
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off the drugs.
01:43
I found better advice on these online forums.
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And what I learned from these forums was that coming off over months, and sometimes more
01:50
than a year, even years, going down by very small amounts, using a liquid version of the
01:55
drug, made it much easier to come off the drug.
01:58
And I actually followed the guidelines on these websites and was able to come off my
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drug.
02:03
And I hope to inform doctors about a safer way of getting patients off their drug in
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the same way.
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Yeah.
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And so after that experience, you've put together, and you can lift it up for the camera, quite
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a substantial book there.
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There's a lot of guidelines there.
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So yeah, you found that the knowledge among doctor GPs of the challenges around this just
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wasn't very good.
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Yeah.
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So unfortunately, the guidelines are very old in Australia, and they're based on short-term
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studies.
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So people who've been on the drugs for a few weeks don't have major trouble stopping, and
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the guidelines are very adequate for them.
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But we now know that the average duration of use of antidepressants in Australia, it's
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four years.
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So a lot of people are on these drugs for years or decades, and the guidance is not
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helpful for them.
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They need to come off more slowly, and they get into a lot more trouble coming off.
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Do you have an opinion whether they're over-prescribed in Australia, or that's a whole nother story?
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Look, they are prescribed now to one in six adults, one in seven people in Australia.
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They are doubling every 10 years.
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I think there's a rise, a few percent every year.
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People have trouble stopping them, which means that the average duration of use is going
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up and up.
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So it's become a little bit of a one-way valve, where people are starting on these drugs quite
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easily, but it's quite hard to stop them.
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And I think a major issue is that we are medicalising normal distress.
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There are all sorts of ups and downs in life.
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Being anxious and being down is a very common response to divorce, job loss, and I think
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a lot of those things are being classified as medical illnesses, which is leading to
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medical treatment, which in many cases is inappropriate, and that's led to the incredibly
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high levels of prescribing we have in this country.
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I think we're second in the OECD in terms of prescribing in this country.
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So it is a growing concern.
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Yeah, and getting off these drugs is a really serious issue.
03:51
So for people watching now who might be taking antidepressants and who are going through
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similar challenges, can you give us in a nutshell, rather than reading out the whole book, what
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are your recommendations for people facing those challenges right now?
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Right, just to summarise, 600 pages in a couple of seconds.
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The main thing is don't stop your drugs abruptly.
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Don't just throw them away.
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That's the worst way to get into trouble.
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If you hear this, if you think about it, go talk to your doctor.
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There's a few principles about coming off them.
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Come off them slowly.
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That means generally months or more than a year for people that are on them long term.
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Number two, go at a rate that you can tolerate.
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So the right rate is the rate that doesn't cause you major problems.
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And the last thing is the last few milligrams are the hardest to come off.
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So right at the end, you often need to go down to doses that are smaller than widely
04:38
available tablets.
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This is a major issue.
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The tablets available at pharmacies are often too big to stop easily.
04:45
They cause too big an effect on the brain and stopping them is like jumping out the
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fifth floor window of a building.
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You need to go all the way down to the ground floor and that often involves using things
04:55
like liquid versions of the drug, sometimes crushing the drug up to make a suspension
04:59
or getting compounded medication to be able to go down to these very small final doses
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to make the landing softer to come off these drugs.
05:06
And you'd like to see the official recommendations in relation to this change?
05:10
Yes.
05:11
So what I'd like to see is that the College of General Practice, which has acknowledged
05:14
this book as a resource for its members and the Royal College of Psychiatrists, take on
05:20
these principles and update their guidance for GPs and psychiatrists and other doctors
05:25
so that all doctors know how to stop these drugs safely.
05:27
And it's a core part of the curriculum, in my view.
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For every lecture on starting a drug, there should be a lecture on stopping a drug.
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In the same way that cars have brakes, we should know how to stop these drugs safely
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and that needs to be a core part of medical education and continuing education for senior doctors.
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