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'Hellboy: The Crooked Man' Director Talks Working With 'Hellboy' Creator Mike Mignola at Comic-Con | THR Video
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7/27/2024
'Hellboy: The Crooked Man' director Brian Taylor and stars Jack Kesy, Jefferson White and Adeline Rudolph chat with THR at San Diego Comic-Con and discuss their new film, working with 'Hellboy' creator Mike Mignola and more.
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I'm not a fan of two and a half hour movies. I like movies to be short.
00:02
You know, every movie I've ever made, it's like, I'm very happy to get in and out of there in like,
00:06
you know, 90 minutes if I can. I've made movies that are 87 minutes long.
00:11
That's more than enough time to take out of someone's life in the theater.
00:14
You know, I don't need it to be an epic.
00:17
See, but Deer Hunter would have, at 87 minutes,
00:19
just imagine how much Deer Hunter would have cooked. You know what I mean?
00:25
We are the cast and director of Hellboy the Crooked Man,
00:28
and we're here with The Hollywood Reporter at Comic-Con 2024.
00:31
Hellboy creator Mike Mignola said of the movie,
00:33
if fans have been waiting for a Hellboy film that is actually an adaptation of one of my stories,
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I think they are finally going to get one.
00:41
Why do you think Hellboy fans are going to love and enjoy this movie?
00:46
Well, I mean, our whole intention going into this thing was,
00:49
it has nothing to do with any of the other movies.
00:51
My thought was like, let's make this movie with an audience of one.
00:55
Mike Mignola, if he's happy, then we're happy.
00:58
And if he feels like we've got the authentic character for the first time on screen in his eyes,
01:03
then we've succeeded.
01:05
So that was the way we went into it.
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We went back to the source material,
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and this is a true adaptation of really one of the most beloved and iconic
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pieces of comic book literature, which was the original Hellboy the Crooked Man.
01:17
And that's what we set out to do, and hopefully we did it.
01:20
Mike has called the Crooked Man his favorite of the Hellboy stories.
01:24
Why do you think this particular story is so special?
01:28
I think it's dark.
01:29
I think it's scary.
01:30
I think it's grimy.
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I think it's grounded.
01:32
I think it's less, I don't want to say caricatury.
01:36
Maybe that's mean.
01:38
But I think it's not to be too vague, but it's very different.
01:44
It's rated R, I believe, from what I know, right?
01:48
That's what I heard.
01:48
Yeah, so grimy.
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You know, it's a bit dirty and dark, and it's a new spin.
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I think it's my favorite, not to be biased, but I'm looking forward to it.
02:02
Did you study the other film portrayals of Hellboy at all before taking on the role,
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or did you just focus on making it your own?
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I did see the original, I guess you call it,
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the original Hellboy that Guillermo del Toro did a long time ago.
02:15
But no, I kind of take it as it comes.
02:17
I get the script, I work with the director, and we just keep moving forward day by day.
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He actually really didn't need to reference any other versions of Hellboy,
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because he sort of is Hellboy.
02:29
In his audition, the first thing he does is he lights up a rolled cigarette and eats it.
02:34
That happened, and I was like...
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That was my last strike.
02:37
Yeah, I'm like, he's kind of the guy.
02:40
He kind of looks like Hellboy, he's sarcastic, he's sort of annoying,
02:44
but he also is sort of like, I mean, look at him.
02:47
How is this film different from the other Hellboy movies we've seen before?
02:53
I mean, the story is different.
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It's a period piece.
02:55
It's very focused.
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It's very intimate.
02:59
It really sort of leans on the Southern Gothic genre.
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I think down to its very bones, it feels like handmade in a way that the comics do.
03:10
I think something that people really respond to with those comics
03:13
is that Mike sees them all the way through.
03:16
He's like a real auteur.
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And I feel like Brian is also a real auteur.
03:20
The way this movie is lit, the harsh contrast, the shadows.
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I was amazed when the teaser trailer came out, I was so delighted
03:27
because fans were taking frames from the comic
03:30
and putting them side by side with frames from the trailer.
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And that was so...
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I didn't even realize that.
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You were like recreating comic frames directly.
03:40
So it's so cool.
03:41
Yeah, I think that's a really...
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That contrast, I think, is going to be really apparent.
03:45
And yeah, I love the other Hellboy films.
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I really do.
03:48
Like Hellboy 2, The Golden Army, is an incredible, spectacular film.
03:55
It's a beautiful, massive...
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The scale is huge.
03:59
This is a very different movie.
04:02
It's a very different story.
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But they do share some common DNA in, I think, a way that's really gratifying.
04:10
And maybe just to add to that, I think this movie is much more stripped back.
04:14
It kind of leans more into the horror aspect of the comics,
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kind of how they were more intentioned in the comic books as well with Dark Horse.
04:21
And so, yeah, there's just this element of...
04:24
I think fans were excited about that too.
04:26
It's less action-packed per se.
04:28
Not to say that there isn't any action.
04:30
There's definitely some action.
04:32
But it really focuses on this journey that Hellboy goes on,
04:36
meeting these very weird and creepy and fantastical creatures along the way.
04:41
Well, another way is one's different from the other ones is you.
04:45
Oh, yeah, I exist. Yeah.
04:46
No, you're a new character.
04:49
Yes, so I'm not...
04:50
My character, Bobby Jo Song, isn't in the original comic book.
04:55
But she is a BPRD agent that's a rookie,
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excited to go on this journey with Hellboy.
05:00
And I'm really excited that I got to bring her to life.
05:03
Yeah.
05:04
Also, I want to add, I think it's specifically set in,
05:09
I want to say the 50s.
05:10
Late 50s.
05:10
Late 50s.
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And we definitely pulled some elements out of the 50s and try to keep it in.
05:15
So essentially, it's kind of a period piece.
05:18
Definitely.
05:18
Definitely.
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And that was kind of fun.
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And we see Hellboy, essentially, he is a younger version of what Hellboy usually is.
05:26
And I think we get to see a Hellboy who's kind of trying to be just a young man.
05:31
But unfortunately, he doesn't really resemble one.
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So he has that kind of neurosis of just want to be a guy,
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but don't kind of look like a guy.
05:39
I just want the girls and the music.
05:41
But I've got a destiny to fulfill and save humankind, which sucks.
05:44
But I got to do it, you know.
05:46
Anyway, I'm done.
05:48
Brian, how did you bring the 50s to life on screen in this film?
05:52
Well, it's interesting, because this is like a folk horror.
05:54
It's a cabin in the woods kind of movie, right?
05:56
So there's not 50s cars and 50s signage and things like that you can lean on.
06:01
So it was a bit of a challenge sort of evoking the 50s.
06:05
And some of it is in dialogue.
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People talk a little bit different.
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We tried to get as much 50s vernacular and slang in as we could that felt authentic.
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Music was the way we did it.
06:16
Set design, to some extent.
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But it really, you know, it's just sort of a buy-in, you know.
06:25
One great thing about that is you don't got to deal with cell phones,
06:28
which just ruin every single movie, you know.
06:30
So it was kind of nice.
06:31
You know, the comic book was set in the late 50s.
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And there was some talk early on about, like, maybe this should be contemporary.
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And I pushed back very strongly about that.
06:38
You know, it's like, no, this is the Crooked Man.
06:40
This is Mike's comic.
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And it should be set the way the comic is set.
06:43
There's a lot of reasons why it's that way.
06:45
And we're going all in.
06:48
The film has been called a return to Hellboy's indie horror roots.
06:51
What's your take on that description?
06:53
Yeah, well, that's sort of like, I'm a big, I'm a comic book guy.
06:57
And I actually think, no exaggeration, I mean, I feel Mike Mignola is a genius.
07:03
I mean, how many people, how many people have created an entire comic book
07:08
universe that is part of the zeitgeist and it's a household name?
07:12
But they're not part of Marvel.
07:13
They're not part of DC.
07:14
They're unaffiliated.
07:15
He's a total indie.
07:16
It all came from the brain of one guy.
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That's really, really special.
07:20
So I have a ton of respect for him as a creator.
07:23
And the whole thing going in was like, again, we want to honor him.
07:28
And what he was doing with those books, it was a different feeling.
07:33
It wasn't a big spectacular, right?
07:35
It was sort of like a, almost like a procedural.
07:38
It was like a folk horror night stalker kind of thing of Hellboy is this, you know,
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sort of wandering soul, you know, who stumbles onto these hauntings and dark forces.
07:47
And he's a plumber.
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He's going to do something about it if you need him.
07:50
And that to me is like the sort of essential Hellboy.
07:53
And I think this is the first time we've really seen that version of Hellboy on screen.
08:00
I know Mike was really excited about it.
08:02
There's been some talk online about the runtime of the film.
08:05
Can you share what the runtime is and what went into that decision?
08:10
Like what kind of talk?
08:13
Some talk that it's like less than two hours.
08:15
Some people were saying that maybe it's kind of short.
08:18
Oh, yeah.
08:18
I mean, we, yeah, I don't know how to respond to that.
08:22
We, we used what we shot, you know, I, you know, I got to say personally, like,
08:29
I'm not a fan of two and a half hour movies.
08:31
I like movies to be short.
08:32
You know, every movie I've ever made.
08:33
It's like, I'm very happy to get in and out of there in like, you know, 90 minutes if I can.
08:39
I've made movies that are 87 minutes long.
08:41
That's more than enough time to take out of someone's life in the theater.
08:43
You know, I don't need it to be an epic.
08:47
See, but Deer Hunter would have at 87 minutes.
08:49
Just imagine how much Deer Hunter would have cooked.
08:51
You know what I mean?
08:51
So, uh, yeah, it's, uh, I don't, I, I, this is not a sprawling epic.
08:58
You know, this is not a, this is not a space opera.
09:00
This is a small story about, um, um, you know, uh, sort of normal people that are in over
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their heads with trouble that they didn't deserve.
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And Hellboy is going to help them get out of it.
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And I, I, I think the movie is the correct link to tell the story we were trying to tell.
09:15
There are too many three hour movies now, to be honest.
09:18
It's like, we don't want to sit in the theater for three, three and a half hours.
09:21
Yeah.
09:21
I need two bathroom breaks in a movie like that.
09:26
You got to scroll.
09:26
That's true.
09:28
I mean, I'm like smuggling a sandwich into the theater.
09:30
I can't do it.
09:31
It's like three hours.
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