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State of the Union: Aviation safety - one pilot or two on an airplane?
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26/07/2024
This edition of State of the Union focuses on the dispute between the aviation industry and pilots over the number of pilots on an airplane.
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Hello and welcome to State of the Union, I'm Stefan Grobe in Brussels.
00:09
When Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban traveled to Russia and China on a self-assigned
00:14
peace mission recently, he should have known that he would risk a backlash among his colleagues
00:19
in the European Council.
00:21
And so it happened.
00:23
This week was payback time.
00:25
At the Foreign Affairs Council, the EU's top diplomat delivered a blistering rebuke
00:29
against Orban and accused the newly-minted rotating Council President of disloyalty.
00:35
Borrell confirmed the next informal Foreign Ministers' Meeting to be held in Brussels,
00:40
effectively kicking a previously planned meeting in Budapest off the agenda.
00:45
We have to send a signal, even if it is a symbolic signal, that being against the foreign
00:53
policy of the European Union and disqualifying the policy of the European Union as the party
01:00
of war has to have some consequences, well, formal consequences.
01:07
Whether the Hungarian government will use the summer weeks to contemplate about maybe
01:12
a different approach remains to be seen.
01:15
I'd be surprised.
01:17
To something more meaningful now, at the 25th International AIDS Conference in Munich this
01:23
week, researchers, medics and politicians were trying to find ways to cure the epidemic.
01:29
Around 40 million people worldwide are still living with the disease, an awful number despite
01:35
all the medical progress that has been made over the decades.
01:39
While AIDS has pretty much dropped off the radar in wealthy countries, the fight continues
01:45
in many of the world's poorer parts, a fight that needs not only money and research but
01:51
also empathy.
01:53
One person dies of AIDS every minute.
01:56
One person every minute.
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That is something we must change.
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Our common goal is to end the AIDS epidemic by 2030.
02:06
We need more research, better prevention, people-centered information and thorough testing.
02:15
But what we really have to keep working on is the fight against discrimination and stigma.
02:21
Speaking of a danger to health, the European Cockpit Association of Commercial Pilots launched
02:27
an ad campaign in Brussels' airport bathrooms this week to raise awareness of what they
02:33
believe to be a massive safety risk, a proposal by aircraft manufacturers and airlines to
02:39
have one pilot at the controls only and not two.
02:43
The idea has sparked massive resistance among pilots and is currently being evaluated by
02:48
the European Aviation Safety Agency.
02:52
For more details, I'm now joined by Tanja Hater, Technical Affairs Director at the European
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Cockpit Association.
02:58
Welcome to the program.
03:01
Thanks for having us.
03:03
So let me get straight to the point.
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Why do we need two pilots on an airplane?
03:08
Two pilots on an airplane are there for a reason.
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We do have all the systems, everything on an aircraft, at least twice.
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That includes the pilots.
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Pilots have very distinctive roles.
03:23
They work together very closely, communicate all the time, and that's how they solve problems
03:32
and operate the flight.
03:34
So it's always two that are doing this and are thinking about what's ahead and what the
03:44
issues are.
03:46
The ECA, your organization, as well as thousands of pilots worldwide are advocating against
03:53
the extended minimum crew operations for quite some time now.
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Why is it obviously so difficult to convince the industry?
04:02
It is a very tempting issue for various reasons.
04:08
One might be a cost-cutting exercise.
04:12
The other might be the issue of presumed or perceived pilot shortage.
04:21
All of these issues are coming our way and are used for a reason.
04:25
What we haven't heard is a really pressing safety issue.
04:30
We know that aircraft manufacturers and airlines are the ones who are pushing for flights with
04:34
one pilot.
04:35
How will the aviation authorities and regulatory bodies react?
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Well, Airbus, as one of the manufacturers, apparently driven by their customers, the
04:46
operators, has placed a request for certification of such an aircraft to the European regulator.
04:54
They are looking into the issue and the certification process is underway.
05:01
On top of that, they will start room-making, accompanying the whole thing, all the operational
05:09
side of the house, as far as we know, this fall.
05:13
The call for experts has been out and we are waiting for the room-making to start, but
05:17
it is definitely the plan.
05:20
So when can we expect this issue to be settled once and for all?
05:25
Well, that is a very good question.
05:29
The room-making is supposed to start in the fall.
05:34
If you look at the European plan for aviation safety, which is the timeline we are working
05:39
with, they want to put it into operation as soon as 2027.
05:45
All right, we'll be monitoring this closely.
05:48
Thank you, Tanja Harter there from the European Cockpit Association.
05:51
Thank you so much for your insights today.
05:53
Thank you very much for having us.
05:58
It might be necessary these days to tell pilots about a stunning phenomenon in Cyprus.
06:03
There, the small community of Messana has been swarmed by tens of thousands of migrating
06:10
swallows.
06:11
The birds are resting on utility poles and high-voltage lines.
06:16
Why the swallows gather there only between six and eight in the morning and then scatter
06:22
is a mystery.
06:24
They repeat this process religiously for two summer months until they fly to Africa in
06:29
early September.
06:30
According to experts, the birds relate to each other and begin travel plans.
06:36
It might also be a way of organizing their large community.
06:40
No one knows for certain.
06:43
The lore has it that it brings bad luck to those who try to anger the birds.
06:50
Someone should really tell the pilots.
06:54
That's it for this edition.
06:55
I'm Stefan Grober.
06:56
Thank you for watching.
06:57
Have an excellent week.
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