Kya PTI Ek Bar Phir Arahi Hai? - Mohammad Malick Gives Inside News
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00:00Mr. Malik, can you tell us if today's developments are surprising, strange or eye-opening for you?
00:09No, no, it is very surprising.
00:11Mr. Umar Ayyub spoke in a very formal manner.
00:15Yes.
00:16And he also said that suddenly, even Mr. Asim Munir will not let this happen.
00:20Yes.
00:21Bani PTI has said this, Mr. Imran Khan has said this.
00:24But the thing is, what are the ground realities?
00:27A few days ago, there was a press conference by DGI SPR.
00:31In that, the ruckus that PTI has created,
00:34they didn't name it, but on-ground terrorism,
00:37and May 9th, and then digital terrorism,
00:40all those things are still very fresh.
00:42And secondly, you know, PTI's statements change very quickly.
00:48So, let's see what happens tomorrow, what happens day after tomorrow.
00:50But today, an olive branch seems to have been shown.
00:54Now, it is possible to see their reaction,
00:57that what reaction comes from somewhere, what comes.
01:00But till yesterday, you and I were talking,
01:03you were saying, weren't you?
01:05That Mr. Khan thinks that his policy is that I have popularity,
01:08he is a little nervous,
01:10mess it up, the way will come out from here.
01:12So, if he messes it up today, steps back from the policy,
01:14then why, what can be thought of behind this?
01:19See, two or three things have happened,
01:21the court's decisions are coming at every level,
01:23in duty, from the level of the judge to the Supreme Court,
01:26all the decisions are benefiting them.
01:29Even today, their 12 demands have been physically terminated.
01:32But you see a common thing in that,
01:34that at this time, a very big conflict is going on
01:36between the judiciary, the executive, and the army.
01:40So, as they say, enemies, enemies, my friend.
01:43So, all the decisions they are giving,
01:45their message goes to Pindi, and Islamabad, and Lahore,
01:49and it benefits the PTI.
01:51But I think, that's why they think that this atmosphere of conflict,
01:55this big thing will benefit them in the future.
01:58But the real thing, Waseem, which in my opinion is the most important,
02:02is the case of the tribunals.
02:04The tribunals in Lahore, in Punjab,
02:06the tribunals that are being made,
02:08they have given a new thing,
02:10Justice Sahiba has also given a clear answer,
02:12to the Chief Election Commissioner.
02:14The case will now come back to the Supreme Court.
02:17In Islamabad, Justice Jahangiri,
02:19and remember, Justice Jahangiri is one of the judges,
02:21the six judges who wrote the letter,
02:23and it is said that the cameras were installed in his house.
02:26So, now these tribunals,
02:28if they get activated.
02:30So, Mr. Malik, your impression,
02:32it is not at all that the cases have improved,
02:34that is why this statement has come.
02:36Your impression is that it is possible that
02:38this statement has come as an attempt to improve the cases.
02:41Muneeb Farooq sir,
02:43In my opinion, he is a tester.
02:45Mr. Muneer, do you also have the same opinion?
02:47Do you think there has been a change on the ground,
02:49which is the reason for this statement?
02:51Or has this statement come to bring about a change?
02:53Thank you very much, Mr. Badami.
02:55Look, the issue is that,
02:57I think it is important,
02:59the statement is very good,
03:01if I take it at face value,
03:03the statement is very good,
03:05and the same unilateral overtures will have to be done,
03:07to regain the trust of the army.
03:09But if I say that
03:11this is just an attempt,
03:13but there is no change.
03:15Either way, justice should come
03:17and give a policy statement,
03:19including Mr. Imran Khan's,
03:21that there was no false flag operation on 9th May,
03:23and the army did not do it themselves.
03:25Because essentially, PTI or Mr. Imran Khan's
03:27people say the same thing,
03:29that the army did it themselves,
03:31a false flag operation.
03:33Now, when they say false flag operation,
03:35you can give it a very fancy interpretation,
03:37but that's exactly what they mean with it.
03:39The second thing is that
03:41there is nothing changing, frankly.
03:43And this is because,
03:45you know, you saw,
03:47three days ago, there was a press conference
03:49of DDISPR.
03:51It's unfortunate that
03:53a political party is given
03:55in the era of Intishari Tola,
03:57but a few days ago I said
03:59that Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf
04:01has been unfortunately
04:03graded as an Intishari Jamaat
04:05by the establishment.
04:07And Mr. Imran Khan
04:09is being seen as a political leader.
04:11Now, in these three days,
04:13nothing big has happened
04:15that everything has changed.
04:17Do you think, Mr. Muneer,
04:19that this may be a first step
04:21towards, in that direction,
04:23which may lead to
04:25where you are pointing, ultimately?
04:27Unilateral,
04:29as I said, Mr. Badami,
04:31it is unilateral,
04:33from which you do not know
04:35whether the other side will reciprocate
04:37your message or not.
04:39This is a unilateral effort.
04:41It is good that it has been done
04:43on behalf of Tehreek-e-Insaf,
04:45because it is necessary.
04:47If Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf
04:49or Imran Khan wants to
04:51return to power politics,
04:53then they will have to fight
04:55because that is the history
04:57of our country.
04:59Now, the simple thing is that
05:01I have told you that for now
05:03there is a no-no for Tehreek-e-Insaf
05:05and they have benefited from it.
05:07But let me tell you that
05:09the more benefit you get,
05:11the more pressure you will be under.
05:13The more relief you get in cases,
05:15the more new cases will open up.
05:17This is the situation as I speak.
05:21And there is no change in it.
05:23And the second thing is that,
05:25as Allama Nazir Abbas
05:27was saying in your program,
05:29the issue is that
05:31such personalities do not have
05:33the capacity to take a seat
05:35without the help of anyone.
05:37So, many such people
05:39have done a lot for Tehreek-e-Insaf.
05:41They come to establishments
05:43to settle their scores.
05:45They come and use
05:47the platform of Tehreek-e-Insaf.
05:49They use their press conferences.
05:51And at the end of the day,
05:53Raghda is Tehreek-e-Insaf.
05:55But no one is directly in touch
05:57with them.
05:59They are standing with Mr. Khan
06:01Sunni Ijtihad Council
06:03is not an issue.
06:05Allama Nazir Abbas
06:07was the head of
06:09Madrasa-e-Ibadat-ul-Muslimeen.
06:11I was talking about him.
06:13Sunni Ijtihad Council
06:15was traditionally
06:17a B-team of the establishment.
06:19And when the late Fawzul Kareem
06:21was there,
06:23he fought the elections
06:25with the support of PMLN.
06:27I was saying that
06:29even in Madrasa-e-Ibadat-ul-Muslimeen,
06:31the PTI said that
06:33they will join you.
06:35But they didn't.
06:37Sunni Ijtihad Council
06:39didn't mind that.
06:41And when they got the senatorship,
06:43they said,
06:45don't give it to me.
06:47They are standing with Mr. Khan.