00:29Because it is impossible for a person to enter into a pact on Monday and make available to the altar what the altar asks for and not have to count one before and one after.
00:40And that's what I wanted you to tell me. Your before and your after. Who were you when you arrived, your trajectory, and who is the person who is talking to us today?
00:52Bishop, I was a child who grew up full of complexes.
00:57Thoughts of death, any frustration was a reason to be tormented by thoughts of death.
01:05As I told you, when I was little, I was about 9 or 10 years old, I took rat poison, hidden from my parents.
01:14Did you know it was rat poison?
01:16Yes, I knew. And as far as I remember, nothing happened.
01:22And I had, sometimes I put a rope around my neck. I had these suicidal thoughts.
01:31I knew that my life was not going to last long.
01:35And my father drank a lot. I was 12 years old when I started drinking, 13 years old when I started drinking.
01:42So I saw that I thought I was different, but in fact I was walking the same path as my father.
01:51And with these complexes, with fear, a sudden fear, full of problems, I came to know faith through television.
02:04But at that moment when you came to know faith, what was your state?
02:07Because we understand that from an early age you had a spirit of death.
02:12But not even death wanted you.
02:14It was two suicide attempts that didn't work.
02:17From then on, what changed your life to the point that you came to Universal,
02:22since out of every 10 Brazilians, 9 swear together that they will never enter the Universal Church.
02:31Right?
02:32Right.
02:33So what brought you to the Universal Church?
02:36What brought you to the Universal Church?
02:38Faith, because when I saw the programming of the Church, I had never seen the Universal Church.
02:46So when I saw that there, that faith, that spirit, it was something that identified me.
02:54Because that's how I believed in God.
02:56I believed in a God who could do everything.
02:58It wasn't a limited God.
02:59Because I came from religions where God seemed to be limited.
03:02And when I saw the testimonies of the things that happened, I said,
03:06no, this is the true God who makes the impossible possible, who makes the sick healed.
03:12This is the God I want, this is the God I believe in.
03:17So that's how I went to the Church, and I freed myself.
03:24But you didn't tell me how you were at that moment.
03:26We understood your situation as a child.
03:28Yes.
03:29The day you arrived at the Universal Church, what was your state?
03:32How was your life in general?
03:34No.
03:35My mother was sick.
03:37My father was addicted.
03:39I had no perspective.
03:41With these thoughts that attacked me.
03:44I had a knowledge of the Gospel, but I wasn't well.
03:55I had no direction.
03:58I didn't know what could happen to my life.
04:00I had no perspective.
04:02So, the thoughts were not...
04:06I had no hope.
04:10That's the truth.
04:11I had no peace.
04:12I had no hope.
04:13I didn't have, let's say, God wasn't with me at that moment.
04:21I arrived, I felt bad.
04:23The first meetings.
04:25But soon, two weeks later, I didn't feel anything anymore.
04:31I freed myself and embraced faith with all my strength.
04:35Even there, I lived in a small town.
04:39I already had a direction.
04:41I came to live here in the capital.
04:43I thought, I'm going, I'm going.
04:46It was a direction from God.
04:48Because there, I thought, I'm going to the capital to look for a better job.
04:56I thought, have a better life.
04:59That was my idea.
05:01And then I came here.
05:02I came to live in favor.
05:04In the back of an uncle's store.
05:07And in faith.
05:09But, many times, I saw the conflicts.
05:11Because I looked at the situation.
05:13Because I left the fear.
05:15Many times, I acted in doubt.
05:18So, it was when I read a word in the Bible,
05:22Samuel 22,
05:25that David, the son of David,
05:28he says, he chased my enemies and I reached them.
05:31I only came back after I had given them the rope.
05:34Because I needed this spirit.
05:36To chase.
05:37Because I looked at my situation.
05:39At that corner where I lived, only with a mattress.
05:41Without a bathroom.
05:43Heating hot water in a tap.
05:47In this resistance, in the shower, I heated the water to drink coffee.
05:51So, that was my situation.
05:52And my family, many relatives, still against my faith.
05:56Saying, no, you're crazy.
05:58To the point that my mother had borrowed money once to get me.
06:03So, these were the struggles we went through.
06:06But I had this spirit of chasing.
06:09To go after.
06:10To act in faith.
06:11Regardless of my situation.
06:13Regardless of my state at that moment.
06:16What was valid was what I believed in.
06:19If people believed in me,
06:21it didn't matter anymore.
06:24And I fought, fought and spoke.
06:27Once I spoke to God.
06:29Even though I didn't achieve anything in this life.
06:32But from the Lord, I don't give up.
06:34If you're thinking I'm here at the Universal Church to make money.
06:37No.
06:38I'm attached to the Lord.
06:42And I sought the Holy Spirit.
06:44I made a purpose, Fogueiras Santos, for the Holy Spirit.
06:47While I couldn't, I didn't stop at this request.
06:51So, until you had this spirit that you saw in Davi's story.
06:55Your goal inside Fogueiras and Pacto II
06:59wasn't for anything else, but for the Holy Spirit.
07:01Exactly.
07:02And did you receive it?
07:03Yes, sir.
07:04I received the Holy Spirit.
07:06And from the Holy Spirit?
07:07Then, we face everything.
07:12Then, it was, let's say,
07:18I made my purposes.
07:21My God, I need this now.
07:23I went out there and achieved it.
07:25I came here, my God, I need this now.
07:28So much so that my life started to move forward.
07:31I bought my first car.
07:33Two months later, I had a purpose.
07:36I gave the car.
07:37Then, I bought an apartment.
07:41I had a purpose, I sold it.
07:44I went to the altar.
07:45And so it came.
07:47My best, my everything, I want it to be in the altar.
07:50In other words, your goals didn't come before the Holy Spirit.
07:53No, sir.
07:54Otherwise, you would have lost them, as you did before,
07:56because you wouldn't have a direction.
07:58So, after the Holy Spirit, you put all your strength to receive it.
08:01From the Holy Spirit to here.
08:03Everything that God gave you and that is now stable in your life.
